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    Tom, If those three cans of TSI 301 are still available, I would gladly take them off your hands. Please let me know how much I owe you for shipping. Thanks, Alan ------------------------------ Alan Eder, RPT Herb Alpert School of Music California ...

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    RE: Nearly equal

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    While I was at the University of Alabama, we hired a new violin professor who was he was going to give a short recital to the faculty and students at the beginning of the semester. We had 2 D's on the concert stage, each with a slightly different ...

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    RE: Nearly equal

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    Steven, Hmmm... many tastes, many ears... This whole discussion reminds me of a long ago conversation I had with the late Dr. Albert Sanderson of Accutuner fame. We were both then members of the Boston PTG chapter, and our chapter meeting one month ...

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    David, That is precisely what I did on my 121. Peter Grey Piano Doctor ------------------------------ Peter Grey Stratham NH (603) 686-2395 pianodoctor57@gmail.com ------------------------------

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    I tried the TS1 301 and did not getting an improvement whatsoever. I still contend the easiest and fastest way to improve things is the heat gun approach. In 5 mins., all the action centers will be free. I usually get about 6 months to a year before ...

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    RE: Loyalty

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    Wim, Very well said. Loyal clients must be made aware of your appreciation by the way you attend to their needs. Sent from my iPad CarlPianoTech.com

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    Jim, I did a complete action parts replacement on a 1946 Stein L that has severe vertigris. At the time, I was surprised to see it in that manufacture period. ------------------------------ Tremaine Parsons RPT Georgetown CA (530) 333-9299 -------- ...

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    I have heard it said that the Prius is the most common piano tuner's car. Personally I am a Corolla man myself. A grand action will fit across the back seat, though occasionally I have to rest an action on an arm rest. It does scratch up an interior ...

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    RE: Loyalty

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    Scott reads our posts. It's his call. But thanks for the compliment. Wim

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    RE: Loyalty

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    Have you submitted this to the Journal? I think more people should read your fine words than participate here on the forum. ------------------------------ Geoff Sykes, RPT Los Angeles CA ------------------------------

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    Larry Nobel did a pair of articles in February (p 14) and March (p 13) of 2020, seemingly connected with that odd 2016 "Piano Tuning Pin Study" prospectus, which doesn't appear in the Dec 2016 Journal (don't know how it got appended to that PDF of 2016). ...

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    I found something in the 2016 Journals. In my full-year 2016 this material occurs after the December issue. Perhaps it was an add-on. It's an unusual layout. Here's the cover page: Here's the one page of about 20, the one most relevant to what ...

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    There's no need to be close to the ocean to develop "cancer". Try getting some TSI 301 and give it a dose, and see what happens. Maybe two shots. I had a case where the shanks and flanges had been replaced like in the 50's or so. By now they had ...

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    I am on the coast of SC and humidity is a problem most of the year. Depending how close to the ocean the piano may be getting a good dose of humidity as well as some good ole corrosive ocean air. I have had customers leave windows and doors open all day ...

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    Torque measured in the sharp direction (pulling the string sharp) will vary with the tension of the string, and the same will be true in the flat direction. When restringing, we can set a target torque for the pin without the string attached, but feel ...

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    I have always considered down torque most important with a reading of 80 inch lb as a minimum. ------------------------------ Parker Leigh RPT Winchester VA (540) 722-3865 ------------------------------

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    Expect verdigris to develop until the end of cloth bushings, ca. 1960. Regards, Bill Bill Shull, RPT, M.Mus. bdshull@aol.com www.shullpiano.com www.periodpiano.org 909 796-4226 Sent from my iPhone

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    Les, I use GIMP, a free image manipulation program available for microsoft and macOS. One can open an 'elm' image (and many other kinds) within GIMP, then export it as a different file of your choosing. Here is the download page: https://www.gimp.org/downloads/ ...

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    In Hawaii it is very common to put a DC under the pin block. The humidity is so high 24?7/265 that the heat has no effect on the pin block, but it helped keep the centers free. I suspect that even with the DC in the action cavity it wasn't enough ...

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    I tuned a Steinway M yesterday that was manufactured in 1948. The action was very sluggish and upon further inspection I discovered vertigris on all the action centers in the top action. The damper underlevers seemed fine. I thought that the flanges with ...

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    Hello, all. Reading back through various posts over the years, I notice there seems to be a number of schools of thought about how tuning pin torque should be measured. Averaging clockwise/counterclockwise, with strings, with no strings, etc. ...

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    I'll be car shopping sometime in the next year and am hoping that my next vehicle can be a much smaller version of what I have. I'm trying to visualize how to duplicate my set up in much smaller quarters. If you are driving a sub-compact car and do ...

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    Thank you. How do I handle elm images in the future. I have Apple products Les Koltvedt (404) 631-7177 LKPianos.com

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    Sean (Post #1), permit me a quick observation, not necessarily a remedy: be aware the string spacing within each tri-chord unison on a vintage Chickering is much narrower than on other pianos of the day. The agraffes were drilled with the three string ...

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    Joe, I've had my share of "brain farts" too! Peter Grey Piano Doctor ------------------------------ Peter Grey Stratham NH (603) 686-2395 pianodoctor57@gmail.com ------------------------------

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    Looks like I made a big mistake, so I deleted my previous posts. Some of the other comments were deleted as a result, because they were replies to my posts. Sorry about that. So, it turns out I had the boxes of the older wippens mislabeled. I had the ...

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    Leslie, here is Tom's picture as a .jpg image.

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    Not sure how to handle this image? Have downloaded it, looks like just a folder to me. Any help is appreciated. ------------------------------ Les Koltvedt Marietta GA lkpianos@gmail.com ------------------------------

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    RE: Nearly equal

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    Dear Steven It's clear that there are a lot of assumptions. The quality of musicians for whom I tune is apparent in the playing in many of my recordings on video. The Pleyel Chromatic Harp of 1896 with fixed pitch chime-bars to which the instrument ...

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    The problem here is that we don’t want to acknowledge the modern standard. That standard is represented by that 0.1% you talk about. I know a tuner who used to tune for Alfred Brendel. He also tuned for Vladimir Ashkenazy. I assure you, he did not use ...

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    I suggested a section for the PTJ: Whats in your tool kit, that could be a regular exploration of individual tech's car, tool kit or shop, but it went nowhere. I still think its a good idea. I designed a parts box for my car trunk that I believe works ...

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    Yes it's common to address this. First run a razor blade down the center to open up the damper slightly. Insert a piece of kite string or equivalent in the center cut to slightly spread the damper. Trim the felt so that it doesn't protrude below the level ...

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    Steve, since the pianists and pianos you're speaking of represent maybe .1% of the pianos and pianists we are tuning for, it's hardly the elephant in the room. Clearly ET is the standard by far but there are many tuners who offer a palette of tunings. ...

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    No one is asking the most important questions. It is the elephant in the room. 1) How many tuners discussing temperament are actually tuning for world-class concert pianists who are playing the full gamut of the literature? 2) Would Evgeny ...

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    Set up for home service. Vacuum and cleaning supplies, wire and stringing, centerpinning, voicing, regulating and bits and bobs. ------------------------------ Larry Messerly, RPT Bringing Harmony to Homes www.lacrossepianotuning.com ljmesserly@gmail.com ...

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    I had a similar set up when I had a mini van with tool boxes, etc, underneath a shelve on which I transported actions. I laid the board for action on top of the wheel wells. Wim

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    RE: Tech program

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    The North Bennet Street School in Boston has a stellar piano technology program. It's a one year program with an optional second year focussed on grand rebuilding (soundboard replacement etc.). www.nnbss.edu ------------------------------ Patrick ...

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    RE: Tech program

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    Hello, There is a link listed on the PTG website: https://www.ptg.org/ptgmain/technicians/education ------------------------------ Gina Bonfietti, RPT Connecticut ------------------------------

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    Tech program

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    Where's a decent tech program other than say a masters from fsu? Sent from Proton Mail for iOS

  • Hey everyone! Excited to join the Reno Convention in July! I'm looking for a roommate to share a hotel room with double beds to save on costs. I'll be staying in Reno from July 16th to July 20th, for a total of 4 nights. If anyone is interested in ...

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    Andrew Remillard's article, called "Dampers: Peace and Quiet at Last" in the December 2002 issue has some nice diagrams and general wisdom about selecting/replacing damper felt. Including some pictures of what Paul suggested w/rt adding cord to spread ...

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    Are you gluing them on the blocks before you put them into the piano, or placing the felt on the strings and lowering the block onto the felt and allowing them to dry in place? Is the grain orientation of the felt the same as the ones you took out? ...

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    Dear List I had meant to include this picture of how my vehicle is setup in one of the previous posts. This setup has been with me for more than 30 yrs., and it's a be tried and true way of organizing our tools and supplies for our profession. As ...

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    I'm replacing dampers on my old chickering grand and the project is going fine but I'm seeking information on tools and techniques for fitting the tricord dampers. I purchased tricord felt strip from schaff and they are close to a perfect fit, but ...

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    RE: Nearly equal

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    A demo certainly would have some value - I believe someone who used to post on pianoworld (grandpianoman?) owned a number of player pianos and posted recordings of the player systems tuned in multiple tunings. I've always found that it is easier to ...

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    RE: Nearly equal

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    A demo is easier said than done. To some extent it's not just about how a piano sounds with a few notes and perhaps how we perceive those notes against the norm with which we're familiar but how the instrument facilitates the making of music. The pianist ...

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    It sounds like all agree -- Pianoteq is a great tool. Varying opinion on whether a real acoustic piano present provides a significantly more realistic sound – due perhaps to phase and soundboard eigenmode type influences when using the real instrument. ...

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    It's always nice to easily solve problems. Wim

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    Wim Thank you for your response. When I returned to work on the piano, there were just a couple that were rubbing, so I was able to use hammer shaping files with a course grit to take off enough material to get proper clearance. ------------------------------ ...

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    RE: Nearly equal

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    Yes - Pianoteq is extraordinary but as soon as one enters this realm results depend on the speakers one's using and my experience even in striving for the best possible recordings and striving for the best possible microphones and reproduction through ...