Hi, Alan,
According to Wikipedia,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob's_your_uncleit means:
"..And Bob's your uncle is an expression of unknown origin, commonly
used in Britain and Commonwealth nations. Typically, someone says it to
conclude a set of simple instructions, similar to the French expression
"et voilà !"."
Kind regards.
Horace
On 3/29/2015 6:02 AM, Alan Eder via Piano Technicians Guild wrote:
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> I routinely remove flanges when traveling shanks, just in case there is paper that could be removed from the side opposite the side that appears to need paper (so as not to elevate the center pin by having paper on both side of the flange screw). Also--and I do not recall where I learned this, but it is not my own bright idea--an electric letter opener will make a pile of eighth-inch strips out of a piece of brown packing tape before you can say, "Bob's your uncle" (does anyone know why they say that?).
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> Alan Eder, RPT
> Herb Alpert School of Music
> California Institute of the Arts
> Valencia, CA
> 661.904.6483
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> Original Message:
> Sent: 03-29-2015 08:23
> From: Chris Solliday
> Subject: Traveling shanks
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> We have used this brown paper tape, that used to be used for parcel post brown paper wrapping, for nearly 40 years. It can be easily cut to size, applied and removed without leaving much of an adhesive residue. We apply it to the flange not the rail. It can be applied this way without removing the entire screw and flange. I purchased a roll of it for less than ten dollars nearly forty years ago and am about half way through it. I hope I live to use the rest of it. Laroy Edwards demonstrated (at LRSH) how to make a handy travel (pardon the pun) supply by using a piece about 6 to 8 inches long and folding it over in half and wetting (to activate the glue) about a half inch of the glued side then sticking the ends together leaving the rest without adhesion. Then folded strips are cut about an eighth of an inch wide. Break one end of one strip at the already glued "handle" and you're ready to insert. Activate the glue as needed with damp paper towel or just lick it! Keeping the roll in
> a large plastic bag with a small silica gel has kept it from getting stuck to itself and a small baggie works for the tool box "traveling" paper.
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> Chris Solliday
> Easton PA
> 610-438-1051
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> Original Message:
> Sent: 03-28-2015 14:46
> From: Susan Kline
> Subject: Traveling shanks
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> Have sticky paper, will travel.
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> The brown package tape you wet stays good indefinitely, except in extremely humid conditions, which I guess might be an issue for you.
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> Susan Kline
> Philomath, Oregon
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> Original Message:
> Sent: 03-27-2015 10:36
> From: James Kelly
> Subject: Traveling shanks
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> Very clever. The only problem is leaving the tape in a hot car or in the sun. I have several plastic ammo boxes that are good at keeping tapes and glue from getting damaged. After all, traveling tape was made to travel.
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> James Kelly
> Pawleys Island SC
> 843-325-4357
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> Original Message:
> Sent: 03-27-2015 09:25
> From: Robert Highfield
> Subject: Traveling shanks
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> Jim,
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> Finally after 20 some opinions you seem to have an answer that sticks.
> Great to read an adhesive answer.
> It is self evident that you broke through the tape at the finish line in first place.
> Following this paper trail can be a road less traveled but in the final flange out your solution seems to be paper smooth.
> We'll read about your solution in the paper tomorrow. Hopefully not in the funny papers.
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> Thanks,
> Bob
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> Robert Highfield
> Lancaster PA
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> Original Message:
> Sent: 03-26-2015 13:37
> From: James Kelly
> Subject: Traveling shanks
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> I bought a roll of very narrow masking tape 1/8" x 60 yds made by PEARL number 795 - creped paper backing, resists water, solvents and oils- high tack; engineered for good adhesion to diverse surfaces. It came from either Schaff or Pianotek.
> I would imagine some of the striping tape used for auto body work would work well.
> Most of the stuff with preapplied glue seems to fail due to the high humidity here but I purchased a bottle with a sponge tip that can be used to wet the glue. It is important to trim off any paper left hanging out after the flange is tightened. Ask me how I know.
> I had a client that complained about buzzing in the action. After listening from various positions I discovered the problem. Long lengths of travelling paper had been left sticking out from under hammer flanges. When the right frequency was played there was sympathetic vibration of the papers- I kid you not. Piano was a large Feurich Grand.
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> James Kelly
> Pawleys Island SC
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> Original Message:
> Sent: 03-25-2015 12:19
> From: William Truitt
> Subject: Traveling shanks
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> I just called Schaff. No cigar.
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> William Truitt
> Bridgewater NH
> 603-744-2277
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> Original Message:
> Sent: 03-25-2015 12:17
> From: Susan Kline
> Subject: Traveling shanks
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> You might check a hobby store for artist's mat board. Nice dense, uniform.
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> Susan Kline
> Philomath, Oregon
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> Original Message:
> Sent: 03-25-2015 12:11
> From: William Truitt
> Subject: Traveling shanks
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> Thanks, Ron. I think I am going to check with Schaff and Pianotek first. If Schaff makes their own punchings, then they likely are making them from sheets of the various thicknesses. If so, it wouldn't be hard to sell us some.
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> William Truitt
> Bridgewater NH
> 603-744-2277
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> Original Message:
> Sent: 03-25-2015 11:57
> From: Ronald Nossaman
> Subject: Traveling shanks
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> Deb, Will,
> Check with printers and paper supply houses. Paper manufacturers
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Original Message------
I routinely remove flanges when traveling shanks, just in case there is paper that could be removed from the side opposite the side that appears to need paper (so as not to elevate the center pin by having paper on both side of the flange screw). Also--and I do not recall where I learned this, but it is not my own bright idea--an electric letter opener will make a pile of eighth-inch strips out of a piece of brown packing tape before you can say, "Bob's your uncle" (does anyone know why they say that?).
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Alan Eder, RPT
Herb Alpert School of Music
California Institute of the Arts
Valencia, CA
661.904.6483
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Original Message:
Sent: 03-29-2015 08:23
From: Chris Solliday
Subject: Traveling shanks
We have used this brown paper tape, that used to be used for parcel post brown paper wrapping, for nearly 40 years. It can be easily cut to size, applied and removed without leaving much of an adhesive residue. We apply it to the flange not the rail. It can be applied this way without removing the entire screw and flange. I purchased a roll of it for less than ten dollars nearly forty years ago and am about half way through it. I hope I live to use the rest of it. Laroy Edwards demonstrated (at LRSH) how to make a handy travel (pardon the pun) supply by using a piece about 6 to 8 inches long and folding it over in half and wetting (to activate the glue) about a half inch of the glued side then sticking the ends together leaving the rest without adhesion. Then folded strips are cut about an eighth of an inch wide. Break one end of one strip at the already glued "handle" and you're ready to insert. Activate the glue as needed with damp paper towel or just lick it! Keeping the roll in a large plastic bag with a small silica gel has kept it from getting stuck to itself and a small baggie works for the tool box "traveling" paper.
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Chris Solliday
Easton PA
610-438-1051
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Original Message:
Sent: 03-28-2015 14:46
From: Susan Kline
Subject: Traveling shanks
Have sticky paper, will travel.
The brown package tape you wet stays good indefinitely, except in extremely humid conditions, which I guess might be an issue for you.
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Susan Kline
Philomath, Oregon
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Original Message:
Sent: 03-27-2015 10:36
From: James Kelly
Subject: Traveling shanks
Very clever. The only problem is leaving the tape in a hot car or in the sun. I have several plastic ammo boxes that are good at keeping tapes and glue from getting damaged. After all, traveling tape was made to travel.
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James Kelly
Pawleys Island SC
843-325-4357
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Original Message:
Sent: 03-27-2015 09:25
From: Robert Highfield
Subject: Traveling shanks
Jim,
Finally after 20 some opinions you seem to have an answer that sticks.
Great to read an adhesive answer.
It is self evident that you broke through the tape at the finish line in first place.
Following this paper trail can be a road less traveled but in the final flange out your solution seems to be paper smooth.
We'll read about your solution in the paper tomorrow. Hopefully not in the funny papers.
Thanks,
Bob
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Robert Highfield
Lancaster PA
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Original Message:
Sent: 03-26-2015 13:37
From: James Kelly
Subject: Traveling shanks
I bought a roll of very narrow masking tape 1/8" x 60 yds made by PEARL number 795 - creped paper backing, resists water, solvents and oils- high tack; engineered for good adhesion to diverse surfaces. It came from either Schaff or Pianotek.
I would imagine some of the striping tape used for auto body work would work well.
Most of the stuff with preapplied glue seems to fail due to the high humidity here but I purchased a bottle with a sponge tip that can be used to wet the glue. It is important to trim off any paper left hanging out after the flange is tightened. Ask me how I know.
I had a client that complained about buzzing in the action. After listening from various positions I discovered the problem. Long lengths of travelling paper had been left sticking out from under hammer flanges. When the right frequency was played there was sympathetic vibration of the papers- I kid you not. Piano was a large Feurich Grand.
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James Kelly
Pawleys Island SC
843-325-4357
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Original Message:
Sent: 03-25-2015 12:19
From: William Truitt
Subject: Traveling shanks
I just called Schaff. No cigar.
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William Truitt
Bridgewater NH
603-744-2277
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Original Message:
Sent: 03-25-2015 12:17
From: Susan Kline
Subject: Traveling shanks
You might check a hobby store for artist's mat board. Nice dense, uniform.
-------------------------------------------
Susan Kline
Philomath, Oregon
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Original Message:
Sent: 03-25-2015 12:11
From: William Truitt
Subject: Traveling shanks
Thanks, Ron. I think I am going to check with Schaff and Pianotek first. If Schaff makes their own punchings, then they likely are making them from sheets of the various thicknesses. If so, it wouldn't be hard to sell us some.
-------------------------------------------
William Truitt
Bridgewater NH
603-744-2277
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Original Message:
Sent: 03-25-2015 11:57
From: Ronald Nossaman
Subject: Traveling shanks
Deb, Will,
Check with printers and paper supply houses. Paper manufacturers
regularly distribute sample books of their products, and these folks may
have a few extras about or can get you some. Weights range from tissue
to heavy poster board.
Ron N