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  • 1.  value of used parts

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 09-28-2014 19:29
    Hi folks-

    I'd like to know what others think about used wippens- (or shanks and flanges for that matter) and the actual value of them after a couple of years of use.
    The piano I'm actually talking about here is a St. D main concert instrument.
    If they still are "quite useable"-  i.e. could be used on another instrument (barring everything working out geometry/new hammers on the S/F) and you decide you won't be needing them, what is a fair price to sell them to another technician/school?


    Thoughts, my esteemed peeps?

    :}
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    Michelle Stranges
    Assistant Piano Technician, Ithaca College
    mstranges@ithaca.edu
    Ithaca, NY
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  • 2.  RE: value of used parts

    Posted 09-29-2014 07:02
    Hey! I was planning on making that photo ID. Nice Job, Looks Great. You beat me to it :-(

    Depending on the wear, $300 to $600 is a god range for workable parts. I bought some s/f/h not long ago for a church piano, the cost reduction was much appreciated.

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    Regards,

    Jon Page


  • 3.  RE: value of used parts

    Posted 09-29-2014 07:05
    Hey! I was planning on making that photo ID. Nice Job, Looks Great. You beat me to it :-(

    Depending on the wear, $300 to $600 is a good range for workable parts. I bought some s/f/h not long ago for a church piano, the cost reduction was much appreciated.

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    Regards,

    Jon Page

    PS    this is an attempt to edit my delivered text. I back/paged to the missive and resubmitted, we'll see what happens...


  • 4.  RE: value of used parts

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 09-29-2014 10:02

    Jon -
    Given that you were buying the parts for a church, I'd say the first version was the correct one. <I:-I

    If I had posed Michelle's question, I would have been thankful for your thoroughly direct response.  Being me, of course, I wonder how such a range is derived... not because I have any formula of my own... just wondering.  'Value' seems so much a function of ye ol' supply'n'demand, and perception.  If I, as an institutional technician, were electing to install used parts, how would my expectations change?  What difference in the level of performance, longevity, or maintenance would I expect to encounter?  How much of the 'new' price is associated with the virgin state of the box seal, or a (real or assumed)  manufacturer's warranty, as in, I buy the parts and then turn around and sell them to you?  In 1 week?  in 4 years?  What's the difference between the work we might end up having to do on used parts and what we often need to do with the new ones?  Maybe the stability that would (possibly) come with parts that are broken-in is an added value, rather than a depreciatory one.  

    I could go on.  Thank godness Jon responded first. 

    Someone go see if she's awake, or breathing.  Maybe that's just the best cell-phone.
    If you were to take a similar ID photo, we could try doing a Who Wear's It Better? series.
    In my version of that yogic pose - Upward Facing Tech - I invariably knock over the open parts box.  Need more practice, and nicer socks.

    Regards to both

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    David Skolnik
    Hastings-on-Hudson NY
    914-231-7565
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  • 5.  RE: value of used parts

    Posted 09-29-2014 11:12
    The price range comes from comparing the cost of new parts and the expense of reconditioning the old (depending on age). Wippens might need the rep springs and grub cleaned and relubed and repinning. Hammers will need resurfacing and maybe repinning and possibly tapering with tail rearcing and certainly SW Graduation. 

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    Regards,

    Jon Page


  • 6.  RE: value of used parts

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 09-29-2014 17:42
    You should see my socks these days..
    I knit my own!
    (And remember when you found me sleeping under a piano like this when I was supposed to be working, David?)

    :}

    FYI the wippens here are Abel's and less than 2 years old.
    Most possibly replev pinning was done out of the box, and they really are in good shape overall.


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    Michelle Stranges
    Assistant Piano Technician, Ithaca College
    mstranges@ithaca.edu
    Ithaca, NY
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