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Hypo Oiler: Yes it really happened!

  • 1.  Hypo Oiler: Yes it really happened!

    Posted 02-23-2018 15:23
    I am voicing a Steinway S.
    I want to put marks on the hammers for needling.
    I turn around to reach for the carbon paper.
    My elbow hits the Hypo oiler on the bench,
    it lands on the floor.
    I slide the action back in to get the Hypo oiler.
    I turn back around to look
    and I see this:

    yes, it really happened!
    -chris 
    #caveman









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    The mammoth aware blows his mighty trumpet,
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  • 2.  RE: Hypo Oiler: Yes it really happened!

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 02-23-2018 20:05
    Ah, yes, because you put something oily in the hypo-oiler. Now, if you put VODKA into it ...

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    Susan Kline
    Philomath, Oregon
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  • 3.  RE: Hypo Oiler: Yes it really happened!

    Member
    Posted 02-23-2018 22:10
    When using small bottles of brown enamel paint to blend thumb tack heads and snaps into cloth fabric covering back posts of a vertical
    ALWAYS  screw the lid back on. Ask me how I know.

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    James Kelly
    Pawleys Island SC
    843-325-4357
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  • 4.  RE: Hypo Oiler: Yes it really happened!

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 02-24-2018 01:12
    In a piano tuning course, when using the class box of paper and card punchings, the one without a lid, don't put it on top of an upright ...

    It seemed like it would take hours, but they all were back in their assigned open-topped boxes in twenty minutes.

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    Susan Kline
    Philomath, Oregon
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  • 5.  RE: Hypo Oiler: Yes it really happened!

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 02-24-2018 07:46
    If only center pins were color-coded like key punchings are!

    Alan

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    Alan Eder, RPT
    Herb Alpert School of Music
    California Institute of the Arts
    Valencia, CA
    661.904.6483
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  • 6.  RE: Hypo Oiler: Yes it really happened!

    Member
    Posted 02-24-2018 08:32
    Speaking of center pins why is it that the size you need is always the one you are out of or can't find because its back home ?

    Also when one is squeezing a pin into a flange one should make sure their finger is not in the path of the exiting pin. Ask me how I know...

    I could not figure out why blood was dripping on to the keybed I was using as my bench to repin.When I turned my hand over I saw the source at which point I felt the pain.

    I think pins should come in pre packed dispensers that you could fill from the top. They would all be stacked atop each other like in a stapler or nail gun and dispensed one at a time just like cans in a soda machine

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    James Kelly
    Pawleys Island SC
    843-325-4357
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  • 7.  RE: Hypo Oiler: Yes it really happened!

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 02-24-2018 10:18
      |   view attached
    If picture attaches, that's an empty version of what I've been using lately for my traveling centerpins (or a one-off in the shop). The actual one is labeled with sizes and measurement and carried in a zip-lock, with whatever means to minimize accidental discharge.  Holds more, easier to fill and access than traditional wood container (hate those springs).  For larger shop or field jobs that use only a few sizes, I use small, slanted side (labeled) dishes.  On those more paranoid days, I still measure.   
    Speaking of which,  have contemplated sitting comfortably in some zone-state, using either fine-tip permanent marker or, even more fun, number punches, to mark all of those same-colored card punchings, so that Jon could pick out the right ones, even from his assorted bag.  Alternatively, I could practice more, until I can see or feel the differences, between say a .025 or .030, though that would still leave the .028's in a somewhat grey area.
    As to Chris C's re-purposing of the hypo-oiler, the 'throwing' oilers are pre-sharpened and balanced. Pricey though.

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    David Skolnik
    Hastings-on-Hudson NY
    914-231-7565
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  • 8.  RE: Hypo Oiler: Yes it really happened!

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 02-24-2018 15:53
    Addendum re: Centerpin
    Continues to frustrate that current crop of #20 1/2 pins are not .0510 but .051​5.  This makes difference between #20 & 20 1/2  = .0015" vs .0005" between ​#20 1/2 & 21.  Might seem nit-picky, but there are times when that's  .0005 too much.

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    David Skolnik
    Hastings-on-Hudson NY
    914-231-7565
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  • 9.  RE: Hypo Oiler: Yes it really happened!

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 02-25-2018 09:29
    For those (4 of us) who read in email, please note that my previous typo-laden post about sizes of centerpins has been edited.  The (hopefully) corrected version appears in Original Message, below.
    Thanks for you indulgence of my self-indulgence.

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    David Skolnik
    Hastings-on-Hudson NY
    914-231-7565
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  • 10.  RE: Hypo Oiler: Yes it really happened!

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 02-24-2018 23:29
    The weekly vitamin bins aren't a half-bad idea, come to that. And yes, they do hold more, and no, they don't have springs, and one can also see at a glance when one is getting low in a size.

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    Susan Kline
    Philomath, Oregon
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  • 11.  RE: Hypo Oiler: Yes it really happened!

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 02-25-2018 11:29
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    Here's the vitamin bin I use. Note that it locks--you have to press the white nubs at the lower left or upper right to open those rows (I've always been paranoid about the lids all coming open and spilling the contents...). Also, the best thing about these bins is that the bottoms is rounded, making it much easier to grab pins at the bottoms. I've also found that a parts box with rounded bottoms is much better for punching as well.
    (hoping the uploader will work this time)

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    Scott Cole
    Talent OR
    541-601-9033
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  • 12.  RE: Hypo Oiler: Yes it really happened!

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 02-25-2018 12:54
    Hi Scott ,
    Virtually same box, better picture.  A smaller one with only one day per week would actually make more sense for travel kit (size & weight) as per Susan'S observation re what actually get's used.  Mine is currently only loaded for the AM  and weighs 8 1/2 ozs.  Unnecessary for the field, unless doing full repinning.  Fewer pins and using PM for front / balance punchings might also be smarter. 
    As for paranoia, even with the handy locking tabs, I still use a 1/8" X 1" X 8 1/2" stick with a few rubber bands  for added protection.

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    David Skolnik
    Hastings-on-Hudson NY
    914-231-7565
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  • 13.  RE: Hypo Oiler: Yes it really happened!

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 02-24-2018 23:26
    What I did about being out of certain center pin sizes: I discovered that the bulk of what I was using were size 21, so I got rid of everything bigger than 23.5 and filled all their empty holes with 21's. Then I marked it on the center pin holder: I put a black line across, an arrow to the right, and "21".

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    Susan Kline
    Philomath, Oregon
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  • 14.  RE: Hypo Oiler: Yes it really happened!

    Posted 02-24-2018 07:51
    I sorted once. Any subsequent (ahem) spillage was placed in a plastic zip lock bag and is used in the field for spot leveling.

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    Regards,

    Jon Page
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