PianoTech Archive

  • 1.  More advice Re: Gray market Yamaha

    Posted 08-20-2002 05:26
    From Clyde Hollinger <cedel@supernet.com>
    
    Friends,
    
    I was hoping for a little more input on this than I received, so I'll try
    again.  Should I advise any of my clients who might be interested in such a
    piano that it is for sale?  Or shouldn't I recommend it to anyone at any
    price, because it is gray market?  What would you do?
    
    Clyde
    
    Clyde Hollinger wrote:
    
    > Friends,
    >
    > A client ordered a new C2 to replace a 1964 G5 gray market grand.  What
    > should I recommend he do with the G5?  We know Yamaha doesn't support
    > them.  What's it worth?  Should I let any other clients know it's for
    > sale?  It's currently advertised in the newspaper want-ads.  I don't
    > know if he tried to trade it in; I didn't ask.  Had to reglue the lyre
    > one time, some tuning pins are quite loose, otherwise in typical
    > condition, looks nice if you don't look close, gloss black.  Advice?
    >
    > Regards, Clyde
    


  • 2.  More advice Re: Gray market Yamaha

    Posted 08-20-2002 06:14
    From "Farrell" <mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com>
    
    You didn't like my response? (Ha, ha, just kidding.) I see that I neglected to say that my son's G5 was also a grey market piano. Very, very nice piano. She just sings praises over it every time I see her.
    
    In Florida where it does not get below 35% RH in most homes, it seems to be the consensus among local technicians that the grey market status of a Yamaha is a non-issue. That is also my Florida-specific opinion. In areas of the planet that see low RHs in the winter I have heard numerous reports of major system failures on these pianos. Now whether a good DC installation would overcome those troubles, I don't know (although it certainly should). I can only assume that the well informed piano consumer in Denver or Duluth would devalue a grey market Yamy quite a bit because of its reported low humidity-related problems (I would).
    
    Terry Farrell 
      
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: "Clyde Hollinger" <cedel@supernet.com>
    To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
    Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 7:25 AM
    Subject: More advice Re: Gray market Yamaha
    
    
    > Friends,
    > 
    > I was hoping for a little more input on this than I received, so I'll try
    > again.  Should I advise any of my clients who might be interested in such a
    > piano that it is for sale?  Or shouldn't I recommend it to anyone at any
    > price, because it is gray market?  What would you do?
    > 
    > Clyde
    > 
    > Clyde Hollinger wrote:
    > 
    > > Friends,
    > >
    > > A client ordered a new C2 to replace a 1964 G5 gray market grand.  What
    > > should I recommend he do with the G5?  We know Yamaha doesn't support
    > > them.  What's it worth?  Should I let any other clients know it's for
    > > sale?  It's currently advertised in the newspaper want-ads.  I don't
    > > know if he tried to trade it in; I didn't ask.  Had to reglue the lyre
    > > one time, some tuning pins are quite loose, otherwise in typical
    > > condition, looks nice if you don't look close, gloss black.  Advice?
    > >
    > > Regards, Clyde
    > 
    


  • 3.  More advice Re: Gray market Yamaha

    Posted 08-20-2002 09:06
    From JIMRPT@AOL.COM
    
    In a message dated 20/08/02 7:22:43 AM, cedel@supernet.com writes:
    
    << "A client ordered a new C2 to replace a 1964 G5 gray market grand.  What
    should I recommend he do with the G5?">>
     Whatever he wants to do with it. 
    
    <<"We know Yamaha doesn't support
    them.">>
    And your point is?  Parts for this thingee are readily available from other 
    sources so this 'non-support' is mostly 
    meaningless...........................   
    
     <<"What's it worth?">>
    Your local market dictates this. Your information was too sparse to even 
    guess at a value other than as a carcass.
    
    <<"Should I let any other clients know it's for
    sale? ">>
    Why not? Just be sure that you include any needful caveats as to current 
    condition and needed work, etc......
    
     As a personal matter I really like the older G-5s.......... they normally 
    have a tonal quality that is quite pleasing to my ear and there is no lack of 
    power for most uses........ Re-whatevered this G5 thingee is really a 
    keeper..but that is just my opinion.
    Jim Bryant (FL)
    


  • 4.  More advice Re: Gray market Yamaha

    Posted 08-20-2002 09:08
    From "Delwin D Fandrich" <pianobuilders@olynet.com>
    
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Farrell" <mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com>
    To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
    Sent: August 20, 2002 5:13 AM
    Subject: Re: More advice Re: Gray market Yamaha
    
    
    > You didn't like my response? (Ha, ha, just kidding.) I see that I
    neglected to say that my son's G5 was also a grey market piano. Very, very
    nice piano. She just sings praises over it every time I see her.
    
    
    
    Interesting son you have....
    
    Del
    


  • 5.  More advice Re: Gray market Yamaha

    Posted 08-20-2002 10:36
    From David Ilvedson <ilvey@sbcglobal.net>
    
    They're not likely to dry out in Florida...;-]
    I haven't had any real problems with gray market Yamahas either...
    
    David I.
    
    
    
    ----- Original message ---------------------------------------->
    From: Farrell <mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com>
    To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
    Received: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 08:13:48 -0400
    Subject: Re: More advice Re: Gray market Yamaha
    
    >You didn't like my response? (Ha, ha, just kidding.) I see that I neglected to say that my
    >son's G5 was also a grey market piano. Very, very nice piano. She just sings praises
    >over it every time I see her.
    
    >In Florida where it does not get below 35% RH in most homes, it seems to be the
    >consensus among local technicians that the grey market status of a Yamaha is a
    >non-issue. That is also my Florida-specific opinion. In areas of the planet that see low
    >RHs in
    >Terry Farrell
    >
    >----- Original Message -----
    >From: "Clyde Hollinger" <cedel@supernet.com>
    >To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
    >Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 7:25 AM
    >Subject: More advice Re: Gray market Yamaha
    
    
    >> Friends,
    >>
    >> I was hoping for a little more input on this than I received, so I'll try
    >> again.  Should I advise any of my clients who might be interested in such a
    >> piano that it is for sale?  Or shouldn't I recommend it to anyone at any
    >> price, because it is gray market?  What would you do?
    >>
    >> Clyde
    >>
    >> Clyde Hollinger wrote:
    >>
    >> > Friends,
    >> >
    >> > A client ordered a new C2 to replace a 1964 G5 gray market grand.  What
    >> > should I recommend he do with the G5?  We know Yamaha doesn't support
    >> > them.  What's it worth?  Should I let any other clients know it's for
    >> > sale?  It's currently advertised in the newspaper want-ads.  I don't
    >> > know if he tried to trade it in; I didn't ask.  Had to reglue the lyre
    >> > one time, some tuning pins are quite loose, otherwise in typical
    >> > condition, looks nice if you don't look close, gloss black.  Advice?
    >> >
    >> > Regards, Clyde
    >>
    


  • 6.  More advice Re: Gray market Yamaha

    Posted 08-20-2002 13:19
    From "Farrell" <mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com>
    
    Yes, I see that now. Oops! That should read "......my son's piano teacher's G5....."
    
    Gee, thanks Del.  ;-)
    
    Terry Farrell
      
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: "Delwin D Fandrich" <pianobuilders@olynet.com>
    To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
    Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 11:07 AM
    Subject: Re: More advice Re: Gray market Yamaha
    
    
    > 
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: "Farrell" <mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com>
    > To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
    > Sent: August 20, 2002 5:13 AM
    > Subject: Re: More advice Re: Gray market Yamaha
    > 
    > 
    > > You didn't like my response? (Ha, ha, just kidding.) I see that I
    > neglected to say that my son's G5 was also a grey market piano. Very, very
    > nice piano. She just sings praises over it every time I see her.
    > 
    > 
    > 
    > Interesting son you have....
    > 
    > Del
    >