Pianotech

  • 1.  Young Chang Hammers

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 06-11-2020 09:44
    I’ve been away from this forum for a while, so excuse me if this topic has been recently discussed. I’ve encountered an early-nineties vintage Young Chang 48” vertical with very hard and somewhat worn hammers, and the customer is complaining about zinging sounds. Re-shaping and mating hammers to strings have failed to make a difference. I cannot get a voicing needle to penetrate the shoulders by more than a fraction of an inch. Has anyone had success with mellowing these beasts?

    Sent from my iPad


  • 2.  RE: Young Chang Hammers

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 06-11-2020 18:02
    Those hammers were probably pressed with a lot of steam, heat, and pressure. And, from your description, a hydraulic press. 

    The felt, which would have been too large for the hammers, would have been saturated with steam to make it flexible enough so it wouldn't tear when forced into the bottom caul. The press, being hydraulic, doesn't care how much pressure is being applied -- there is enough available to crush molding if the stop screws are not adjusted correctly. 

    The side cauls are also hydraulically operated but there were probably no stop screws controlling their movement. So the pressure on the sides from the parting line back would be pressed very hard. 

    There would have been a lot of heat used. This reduces the curing time of the glue and increases production. It can also burn the felt on the sides. The tell-tale brown crust on the surface can be cut and/or sanded away so the technician will rarely notice. Look for a very slightly tanish color to the felt from the shoulder back. 

    Assuming this is how the hammers were pressed -- and without looking at them personally I am only guessing -- about the only thing you can do is try to swell the felt up some. Conventional voicing won't do much until you turn them into marshmallows at which point they just go 'thud.' 

    Try dosing a couple of the hammers with a 70% solution of alcohol & water. Does it soak in? If it does saturate the hammers with this mixture and let it dry overnight. The hammers will swell, sometime a little, sometimes a lot. Sand them back to their original size and see what you have. You can do this more than once if necessary. 

    This is not a perfect solution to the problem -- that would be replacing them with real piano hammers -- but it can make their sound a lot less bad. 

    ddf

    --
    Delwin D Fandrich
    Fandrich Piano Company, Inc.
    Piano Design and Manufacturing Consulting Services -- Worldwide
    6939 Foothill Ct SW -- Olympia, WA 98512 -- USA
    Phone 360.515.0119 -- Mobile 360.388.6525





  • 3.  RE: Young Chang Hammers

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 06-12-2020 03:12
    Forget needing the shoulders. Useless on those hammers. An aggressive needling across the crown from 11:00-1:00. Is what's needed. Use a 3 needle tool with needles protruding 4-6 mm. Remove the action and lay it on its back and support the hammer tails on a strip of wood and have at it, full penetration. 6-10 stitches across the bass hammers graduating to somewhat less as you ascend. Don't hesitate to include the strikepoint. Check mating when you're done.

    ------------------------------
    David Love RPT
    www.davidlovepianos.com
    davidlovepianos@comcast.net
    415 407 8320
    ------------------------------



  • 4.  RE: Young Chang Hammers

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 06-12-2020 03:44
    Harry

    I've had a few of those pianos, and there really isn't much you can do with those rocks. You can show the customer how needles will bend and break, but that even doing that will not result in the tone (s)he will be happy with. I would recommend a new set of hammers. I like Abels from Books.

    ------------------------------
    Willem "Wim" Blees, RPT
    Mililani, HI 96789
    ------------------------------



  • 5.  RE: Young Chang Hammers

    Posted 06-12-2020 07:29
    Try a 1-1-1 solution of (All fabric softener, Alcohol, water). Add more alcohol to the solution if it doesn't penetrate into the felt.  Using a pipette, one drop on the strike point should make a difference. If you want to try a less intrusive solution then eliminate the water and try 1:2 (All fabric softener, Alcohol) again add more alcohol if it doesn't penetrate. Results are immediate. let dry.

    -chris

    ------------------------------
    Chernobieff Piano Restorations
    "Where Tone is Key"
    chernobieffpiano.com
    grandpianoman@protonmail.com
    Lenoir City, TN
    865-986-7720
    ------------------------------



  • 6.  RE: Young Chang Hammers

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 06-14-2020 10:28
    Thanks to all who responded to my question. Very helpful information.

    Sent from my iPad




  • 7.  RE: Young Chang Hammers

    Posted 06-12-2020 11:47

    i would try Profelt.  right on the top and shoulders too

    ------------------------------
    Melissa Warren
    Lawrence KS
    785-749-5000
    ------------------------------