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PianoDisc PDS-1000

  • 1.  PianoDisc PDS-1000

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 20 days ago
    Hello all,
    I have a customer with a Kawai CX-21D (1989), and it has a nonfunctioning PianoDisc player in it, model PDS-1000.  She has asked me if the value of the piano would be greater if the player were repaired, or if it would be better to just remove the thing.  She is not planning on selling the piano any time soon, I guess she just wants the information for the future.  We talked about removing it because the pedals make a lot of noise and she prefers playing the piano herself.
    I know nothing about repairing players, so she would have to find someone to come to town and do it.
    Thanks in advance!

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    Laura Wright, RPT
    Ivory Keys Piano Service
    Durango CO
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  • 2.  RE: PianoDisc PDS-1000

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 20 days ago
    Hi, Laura.  You might as well tell the customer that the player system is extremely obsolete, and to make it function you would have to find used parts, which are so old that if they work now, how long will they stay working?  The only way to really "fix" the player is to replace it with new, up to date system.  And, don't forget, the pedal mechanism is different than it was when from the factory, so it must stay on as it is now.  But the rest is toast, really.   Clark

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    Clark Sprague
    Bowling Green OH
    [csprague4@gmail.com]
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  • 3.  RE: PianoDisc PDS-1000

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 20 days ago
    I would recommend you contact a Piano Disc installer in your area and have them remove the old system. I only say this because, as Clark said, the pedal system was modified when the Piano Disc system was installed and really should be restored to its original configuration. If you don't have the pedal system restored the installation modification will continue to make noise. A Piano Disc installer should know how do to this.

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    Geoff Sykes, RPT
    Los Angeles CA
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  • 4.  RE: PianoDisc PDS-1000

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 20 days ago
    This is an upright piano so couldn’t I just put in a dowel? I haven’t really looked at it closely but is something changed about the damper rod?
    Thanks!


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  • 5.  RE: PianoDisc PDS-1000

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 19 days ago
    D'Oh! Now I feel stupid. I've, honestly, never seen a PianoDisc system on anything but a grand so that's what I was picturing in my head when I replied. Grands need that pedal restoration because the trapwork for the middle pedal either gets removed or re-engineered to accommodate the key solenoids. I don't know what is involved with an upright.

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    Geoff Sykes, RPT
    Los Angeles CA
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  • 6.  RE: PianoDisc PDS-1000

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 20 days ago
    This is an upright piano so couldn't I just put in a dowel for the damper pedal?
     I haven't really looked at it closely but is there something changed about the damper rod?
    Thanks!


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    Laura Wright, RPT
    Ivory Keys Piano Service
    Durango CO
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  • 7.  RE: PianoDisc PDS-1000

    Member
    Posted 19 days ago
    Take the bottom kick board off and see how the damper/sustain pedal is connected. A few pictures posted here might be useful for diagnosis. Most player systems are installed in grand pianos . There are a number of brackets installed so that the dampers can be lifted by the large pedal solenoid but also played using the regular pedal. Installs in verticals are tight fits , It may be just a simple connection or maybe not. Best to find a piano disc certified installer to bypass things. The system itself is outdated and it will be expensive to upgrade which would have to be done by a certified installer.

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    James Kelly
    Owner- Fur Elise Piano Service
    Pawleys Island SC
    843-325-4357
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