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I tuned a Steinway & Sons Model S that was approximately 20 years old and had one previous owner. I noted that there was no decal on the soundboard which seemed unusual to me . It was a very nice piano from the Crown Jewel Collection with Sapele venner under clear lacquer. I have only seen one other Crown Jewel grand and had been asked by a dealer to fix an issue with the damper pedal. I did not notice the presence or absence of a decal. So should this Model S have a decal or not ?

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James Kelly
Owner- Fur Elise Piano Service
Pawleys Island SC
843-325-4357
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Sounding board decals were fazed out decades ago.

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Regards,

Jon Page
mailto:jonpage@comcast.net
http://www.pianocapecod.com
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Original Message:
Sent: 09-03-2020 18:00
From: James Kelly
Subject: Steinway & Sons Model S - no decal


I tuned a Steinway & Sons Model S that was approximately 20 years old and had one previous owner. I noted that there was no decal on the soundboard which seemed unusual to me . It was a very nice piano from the Crown Jewel Collection with Sapele venner under clear lacquer. I have only seen one other Crown Jewel grand and had been asked by a dealer to fix an issue with the damper pedal. I did not notice the presence or absence of a decal. So should this Model S have a decal or not ?

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James Kelly
Owner- Fur Elise Piano Service
Pawleys Island SC
843-325-4357
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You might see a Diaphragmatic Sounding Board decal at the second treble break.

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Regards,

Jon Page
mailto:jonpage@comcast.net
http://www.pianocapecod.com
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Original Message:
Sent: 09-03-2020 18:13
From: Jon Page
Subject: Steinway & Sons Model S - no decal

Sounding board decals were fazed out decades ago.

------------------------------
Regards,

Jon Page
mailto:jonpage@comcast.net
http://www.pianocapecod.com

Original Message:
Sent: 09-03-2020 18:00
From: James Kelly
Subject: Steinway & Sons Model S - no decal


I tuned a Steinway & Sons Model S that was approximately 20 years old and had one previous owner. I noted that there was no decal on the soundboard which seemed unusual to me . It was a very nice piano from the Crown Jewel Collection with Sapele venner under clear lacquer. I have only seen one other Crown Jewel grand and had been asked by a dealer to fix an issue with the damper pedal. I did not notice the presence or absence of a decal. So should this Model S have a decal or not ?

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James Kelly
Owner- Fur Elise Piano Service
Pawleys Island SC
843-325-4357
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  I did see the small decal you mention but had no idea about phasing out of a larger decal decades ago. Do you have an idea of when this practice started ? I guess the absence of a decal does not mean the piano is not a genuine Steinway or is a rebuild.

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James Kelly
Owner- Fur Elise Piano Service
Pawleys Island SC
843-325-4357
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Original Message:
Sent: 09-03-2020 18:14
From: Jon Page
Subject: Steinway & Sons Model S - no decal

You might see a Diaphragmatic Sounding Board decal at the second treble break.

------------------------------
Regards,

Jon Page
mailto:jonpage@comcast.net
http://www.pianocapecod.com

Original Message:
Sent: 09-03-2020 18:13
From: Jon Page
Subject: Steinway & Sons Model S - no decal

Sounding board decals were fazed out decades ago.

------------------------------
Regards,

Jon Page
mailto:jonpage@comcast.net
http://www.pianocapecod.com

Original Message:
Sent: 09-03-2020 18:00
From: James Kelly
Subject: Steinway & Sons Model S - no decal


I tuned a Steinway & Sons Model S that was approximately 20 years old and had one previous owner. I noted that there was no decal on the soundboard which seemed unusual to me . It was a very nice piano from the Crown Jewel Collection with Sapele venner under clear lacquer. I have only seen one other Crown Jewel grand and had been asked by a dealer to fix an issue with the damper pedal. I did not notice the presence or absence of a decal. So should this Model S have a decal or not ?

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James Kelly
Owner- Fur Elise Piano Service
Pawleys Island SC
843-325-4357
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Original Message:
Sent: 9/3/2020 8:50:00 PM
From: James Kelly
Subject: RE: Steinway & Sons Model S - no decal



  I did see the small decal you mention but had no idea about phasing out of a larger decal decades ago. Do you have an idea of when this practice started ? I guess the absence of a decal does not mean the piano is not a genuine Steinway or is a rebuild.

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James Kelly
Owner- Fur Elise Piano Service
Pawleys Island SC
843-325-4357
------------------------------

Original Message:
Sent: 09-03-2020 18:14
From: Jon Page
Subject: Steinway & Sons Model S - no decal

You might see a Diaphragmatic Sounding Board decal at the second treble break.

------------------------------
Regards,

Jon Page
mailto:jonpage@comcast.net
http://www.pianocapecod.com

Original Message:
Sent: 09-03-2020 18:13
From: Jon Page
Subject: Steinway & Sons Model S - no decal

Sounding board decals were fazed out decades ago.

------------------------------
Regards,

Jon Page
mailto:jonpage@comcast.net
http://www.pianocapecod.com

Original Message:
Sent: 09-03-2020 18:00
From: James Kelly
Subject: Steinway & Sons Model S - no decal


I tuned a Steinway & Sons Model S that was approximately 20 years old and had one previous owner. I noted that there was no decal on the soundboard which seemed unusual to me . It was a very nice piano from the Crown Jewel Collection with Sapele venner under clear lacquer. I have only seen one other Crown Jewel grand and had been asked by a dealer to fix an issue with the damper pedal. I did not notice the presence or absence of a decal. So should this Model S have a decal or not ?

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James Kelly
Owner- Fur Elise Piano Service
Pawleys Island SC
843-325-4357
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Mr. Kelly
FWIW Kehl and Kirkland have the soundboard decal ending in 1918. Reproduction decals started in the early 2000's. The diaphragmatic soundboard/accelerated action decal is called the belly decal and continues to the present.

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Karl Roeder
Pompano Beach FL
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Original Message:
Sent: 09-03-2020 18:00
From: James Kelly
Subject: Steinway & Sons Model S - no decal


I tuned a Steinway & Sons Model S that was approximately 20 years old and had one previous owner. I noted that there was no decal on the soundboard which seemed unusual to me . It was a very nice piano from the Crown Jewel Collection with Sapele venner under clear lacquer. I have only seen one other Crown Jewel grand and had been asked by a dealer to fix an issue with the damper pedal. I did not notice the presence or absence of a decal. So should this Model S have a decal or not ?

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James Kelly
Owner- Fur Elise Piano Service
Pawleys Island SC
843-325-4357
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Thanks Mr Karl now I know why there would be no decals on the soundboard for over 100 years ....

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James Kelly
Owner- Fur Elise Piano Service
Pawleys Island SC
843-325-4357
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Original Message:
Sent: 09-04-2020 22:05
From: Karl Roeder
Subject: Steinway & Sons Model S - no decal

Mr. Kelly
FWIW Kehl and Kirkland have the soundboard decal ending in 1918. Reproduction decals started in the early 2000's. The diaphragmatic soundboard/accelerated action decal is called the belly decal and continues to the present.

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Karl Roeder
Pompano Beach FL

Original Message:
Sent: 09-03-2020 18:00
From: James Kelly
Subject: Steinway & Sons Model S - no decal


I tuned a Steinway & Sons Model S that was approximately 20 years old and had one previous owner. I noted that there was no decal on the soundboard which seemed unusual to me . It was a very nice piano from the Crown Jewel Collection with Sapele venner under clear lacquer. I have only seen one other Crown Jewel grand and had been asked by a dealer to fix an issue with the damper pedal. I did not notice the presence or absence of a decal. So should this Model S have a decal or not ?

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James Kelly
Owner- Fur Elise Piano Service
Pawleys Island SC
843-325-4357
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