CAUT

  • 1.  Upgrades at NY Steinway?

    Posted 01-27-2019 17:04
    Interested to hear if any techs. have been to the selection room at the NY Steinway factory  very recently, I hear there have been small changes in '"fit and finish" cabinetry  possibly more akin to  Hamburg B's and D's, curious if they will or have yet adopted Hamburg  belly rail mounted sostenuto. If you have been there on clients or schools behalf what  choices were there in the number of pianos available?, I hear that the "newer" styled cabinetry models have been selling and being selected over the traditional cabinets but not sure if it was this alone that was the determining factor.

    ------------------------------
    Martin Snow
    Boston MA
    617-543-1030
    ------------------------------


  • 2.  RE: Upgrades at NY Steinway?

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 01-27-2019 18:42
    Hi Martin-

    I was at the NY selection room recently, the week after Thanksgiving, and at that time they were in process of changing the cheek profile but not done yet. The prepped pianos we saw did not have a belly mounted sostenuto rail, but I'm told that will be coming very soon.  I would like to hear more details about necessary framework changes in keybed and trapwork on all pianos to accommodate the new Spirio system.  

    regards,
    Dennis.  

    --
    Dennis Johnson, R.P.T.
    Piano Technician
    Music Dept.
    St. Olaf College





  • 3.  RE: Upgrades at NY Steinway?

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 01-27-2019 22:45
    I was there on Thursday but not the selection room. The rounded arms are in production. Don't know how long the last of the square arms will take to work through. The exterior changes are in response to the explosive growth of the export market for NY Steinways. Also it is a fruit of the decades long unification efforts between the two factories. As it stands now I've been told the NY Steinway will continue to be distinct in it's belly and it's action. So no crowned ribs and the accelerated action dowel stays. The factory is increasing production for the first time in a long time. The Spirio trapwork is unique to the Spirio instruments. The rims are marked as they come off the press Spirio or not. The Spirio pianos have a completely different keybed installed from the start. I've been told the belly mounted sostenuto is six months away for twenty years but now that it's on the Spirio; Who knows? As far as upgrades go I will say in all sincerity that I believe they are making the best pianos right now that they've made in a hundred years or so. I've been fortunate that for the last 29 years I've never stopped working on the new pianos from the factory both large and small. I know the factory's failings better than most but I've also been witness to the steady progress through the years due in large part to the dogged efforts of people who's names you will never know.

    ------------------------------
    Karl Roeder
    Pompano Beach FL
    ------------------------------



  • 4.  RE: Upgrades at NY Steinway?

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 01-28-2019 12:38
    I’ve seen some of the case changes coming through, and there’s only one that I REALLY hope they never change - the pedal box.

    I work with both Hamburg and NY concert grands in “my” concert halls, and a simple adjustment inside the box (like tightening a screw) can take 40 minutes on a Hamburg, to remove and disassemble much of the whole lyre assembly, and 10 minutes or less to pull off the front plate on the NY. I have never seen any disadvantages posed by the simple assembly.

    I sure hope someone is listening!

    Kathy




  • 5.  RE: Upgrades at NY Steinway?

    Posted 01-28-2019 14:02
    Well said, and  yes  they will always remain NY and Hamburg sourcing their own materials  but that should not be a reason going forward to  take the best from each  for an improved product.

    ------------------------------
    Martin Snow
    Boston MA
    617-543-1030
    ------------------------------



  • 6.  RE: Upgrades at NY Steinway?

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 01-29-2019 06:46
    It's been rumored that Hamburg will be incorporating the NY style pedal box sometime in the future.

    David Denison






  • 7.  RE: Upgrades at NY Steinway?

    Posted 01-29-2019 12:36
    I second that! The NY Steinway pedal box should have been copied by everyone by now. 

    --
    Alan McCoy
    (509) 999-9512





  • 8.  RE: Upgrades at NY Steinway?

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 01-29-2019 20:59
    Or, at least, something similar and as effective. 

    It baffles me as to why so many pianomakers seem to find it necessary to reinvent the pedal mechanism every few months. Leaving their last efforts to fail miserably and be non-replaceable in the field without re-engineering the damn things while sprawled out on the floor underneath the piano. 

    Some years ago I was asked to evaluate a pedal mechanism for Young Chang. I took one look at it an tossed it in the trash can. Everyone in the room was shocked! This assembly was, apparently, the result of much very clever engineering and development work. I had spent probably 30 seconds examining it. Surely I must be mistaken. 

    The problem was that the whole thing was a single unit. It could not be dissembled for repair. Period. The bushings were flimsy plastic something or other. The pivot pins were pressed into stamped pedals that would have lasted about three weeks in your typical Pentecostal church. Maybe three months or three years with a piano teacher or little Joanne taking lessons. 

    The advantage was that it could be purchased as an assembly and installed with two screws. "But, what about warranty costs?" I wanted to know. Has this been life tested in the real world? Well, no, but it was tested by the contractor. How was it tested? With a nice, gentle lever depressing the pedals working against some springs. "NO, has it been tested in a real piano with real piano players?" Well, no. We thought that would be enough. 

    Sigh. (And end of rant.)
     

    --
    Delwin D Fandrich
    Fandrich Piano Company, Inc.
    Piano Design and Manufacturing Consulting Services -- Worldwide
    6939 Foothill Ct SW -- Olympia, WA 98512 -- USA
    Phone 360.515.0119 -- Mobile 360.388.6525