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  • 1.  Leveling strings

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 09-09-2019 14:08
    Hello CAUTs!

    Do you level strings?  

    I've done both ways - leveling strings and then mating hammers,  or simply mating hammers to strings by "leveling" them to newly filed hammers.

    I have not been happy when trying to level strings with a bubble level.

    Isn't there a tool for leveling from below?  If so what is it?

    Please feel free to discuss whether you spend the time to level strings before mating hammers, and if you do so, what tools or methods have you found work best?

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    David Pritchard
    Lynchburg VA
    434-841-7735
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  • 2.  RE: Leveling strings

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 09-09-2019 14:26
    David

    I used the bubble level to level the strings before mating the hammers to the strings. I try to make the strings straight across, but sometimes it's too time consuming. So I at least try to get all three strings in the same plane, even if they are not perfectly level. But mating the hammer to the three strings does need to be as perfect as possible.

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    Willem "Wim" Blees, RPT
    Mililani, HI 96789
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  • 3.  RE: Leveling strings

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 09-09-2019 15:10
    A combination of tools. :
    - Mother goose bubble
    - Faulk string level
    - Chris Brown's  combo tool for string height or string level. Sometimes it's hard to get them all to agree.

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    David Skolnik [RPT]
    Hastings-on-Hudson NY
    917-589-2625
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  • 4.  RE: Leveling strings

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 09-10-2019 03:43
    One thing I've noticed is that for the most part, strings in the Capo area are mostly level to begin with. I've had to do very little string leveling in that area.  But when I've had to do that, especially in the top section, after pulling up the strings at the capo bar, I had to push the string back down on the bridge. Has anyone else had that experience?

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    Willem "Wim" Blees, RPT
    Mililani, HI 96789
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  • 5.  RE: Leveling strings

    Posted 09-09-2019 15:32
    I level strings with a bubble gauge, then check hammer mating and remove necessary felt. Then I put it on my key pounder. It amazes me every time how much the tone comes to life after just 15 minutes to break it in.


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  • 6.  RE: Leveling strings

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 09-09-2019 16:50
    As always, the devil is in the details, and this is one of the most highly detailed piano jobs. I find the Mother Goose level (adapted from the original Fazioli tool - they have modified theirs, but it is no available) not very user friendly. It is necessary to place the level as close to the strike point as possible, which means right in front of the dampers. That is usually troublesome, because you have to lean over to see the bubble, and reaching in to pick it up so you can hook the string(s) is relatively inconvenient. It also won't give you a reading on the unisons next to the strut, which are commonly the worst offenders.

    So I made my own level, after a somewhat similar design of Terry Otake (Shigeru MPA). It places the bubble where it can be easily seen, and it sits right next to the strut to catch those strings. It does need to be very lightly supported while plucking the string - finger and thumb just touching, next to no pressure. This is actually very ergonomic, as the finger and thumb are in place to pick up the level while hooking and pulling up the wire.

    I've done this on at least dozens if not quite hundreds of pianos over the past 15 years, always successfully except in a couple instances where strings had been grossly over-pulled by someone previous. I have found that it always makes the mating process go more quickly, and that in less than the most picky situations I can get by without bothering to mate, as long as I have checked that my crowns are quite level. On good days, it takes under 30 minutes to do a meticulous job.

    I find it faster than leveling the strings to the hammer, as it is a more direct measurement: you don't have to raise the hammer, and worry about just how much you are pressing the hammer toward the string. But I realize that different folks are more comfortable with one thing than another, and there are lots of ways to go about this particular job.

    I've also fooled with under string levels, so I'll include photos of three I designed and made. They all work pretty well. I find I just revert to my bubble level, though.


    Regards,
    Fred Sturm
    "The true sign of intelligence is not knowledge, but imagination." - Einstein












  • 7.  RE: Leveling strings

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 09-10-2019 02:09
    Agree on the value of a pounder. I have WN&G unit rather than making my own because it is compact and I don't have extra floor space. I like to do 10-20 hours of pounding on rebuilt pianos.  

    Since I have started using the pounder, I believe the quality of output leaving my shop is significantly better. Anyone who doesn't have one could up their game by adding that to their protocol.

    Keith Akins, RPT
    Piano Technologist
    715/775-0022 Mon-Sat 9a-9p
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  • 8.  RE: Leveling strings

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 09-09-2019 16:25
    I don't use a bubble gauge but rather the square end of a 6" metal ruler. Much easier to handle. The string plane is parallel  to the floor when the ruler is straight up vertical and not leaning

    With new or newly filed hammers I often square and level the tops of the hammers at strike height (on the bench is easier) and then level the strings to the hammers. 

    If you're not going to file, square and level the hammers then checking the string leveling first is best. 

    Very, very, very small adjustments can be made by inserting a single needle with a chopstick tool under the strike point (from the shoulder off 5mm off the SP to a depth of about 3-4 mm under the SP) of the low spot in a hammer. I limit that to one string only and of course I don't really ever do that nor did I suggest it.

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    David Love RPT
    www.davidlovepianos.com
    davidlovepianos@comcast.net
    415 407 8320
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