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  • 1.  Disinfectant wipes

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 07-20-2021 07:46
    Hello Folks:
    As I’m doing my tuning rotation of 100 Steinway & Sons pianos, I’m accessing any cabinet and key top damage that has occurred as a result from the use of the disinfectant wipes. On some pianos I’m coming across, I’m finding the typical botching on the key tops as we’ve seen presented and posted on various sites. Also, some damage to the ebony finish with streaking and dulled finish. It seems the damage occurs as a result from a disinfectant wipe and when applied by some of the students it was allowed to puddle on the key tops and various case cabinet parts.
    Looking for suggestions/recommendations from anyone who has developed any successful methods for buffing or attempts to restore key tops and cabinet parts as a result of disinfectant wipes.
    As a note, we have only used the disinfectant wipes (hydro peroxide) that had been suggested by Steinway & Sons. In addition, I have provided students and faculty video instructions on application. I’m of the opinion that a common sense application and a quick follow up with a dry towel would have eliminated much of the problem. Any suggestions or recommendations are greatly appreciated.

    Dan Alberts
    Registered Piano Technician
    Indiana University of Pennsylvania

    Sent from my iPhone


  • 2.  RE: Disinfectant wipes

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 07-20-2021 14:37

    I'm surprised nobody has responded to this.

     

    We, too have had many pianos carelessly "cleaned" over this pandemic, and really would like to know what to do. I certainly can't send out donzens of pianos for refinishing!  Mostly Steinways.  Finishes all white and blochy,  Some keyboards strangely cloudy.

     

    Are we doomed?

     

    Thanks

    Paul

     






  • 3.  RE: Disinfectant wipes

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 07-20-2021 15:00

    A little denatured alcohol can help the white blotchiness – don't let it sit there though - wipe it on then wipe it off.  The white is moisture that has soaked into the lacquer, the alcohol may suck it out if it's not too deep.

     

    A lot of that white will go away on it's own.  I'm going to wait a while before go after it.

     

    Mitch Staples

    Ohio State

     

     

     






  • 4.  RE: Disinfectant wipes

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 07-20-2021 15:04

    Will Blush Earaser from Pianek work?






  • 5.  RE: Disinfectant wipes

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 07-20-2021 15:06

    I bet it would.

     

    Mitch






  • 6.  RE: Disinfectant wipes

    Posted 07-20-2021 17:22
    So after 33 years at BU as head tech. I retired in Spring of 2019, piano work  continues to find me  even after our move to northern Vermont but at a much more leisurely pace, 
    I think I know the answer to this  but did Steinway Corp.  or your local Steinway dealer reach out to any of you in CAUT  land to advise  with recommended products how best to  safely disinfect keys and  most touched  cabinetry ​  so as not to have this blotching and blemishing. If not shame on them, a free gift pack of products  researched by Steinway Corp.  and sent out to conservatories/universities to mitigate  the  worst symptoms would have been a gesture in good faith. I'd be curious as to how the pianos on your inventory with polyester finish ​ have fared over the last year with the same random usage of disinfectant wipes.  
    www.snowpianos.com

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    Martin Snow
    South Burlington VT
    617-543-1030
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  • 7.  RE: Disinfectant wipes

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 07-21-2021 06:53
    Dear Paul,

    Having experienced similar issues on Steinway and Baldwin satin finishes you describe, the following is offered
    as having not failed on the pianos I have used it on.  The finishes I refer to are specifically
    50 years old and newer and are still well attached to the case pieces.

    The white discoloration caused by disinfectants seems to be a reaction to what is on top of the finish and not the finish itself.
    This includes but may not be limited to dried human perspiration, dirt, and finish protectants of all kinds.
    After trying a test area or two yourself, original Windex liberally applied to one area at a time starting from the bottom up, and allowed to work for a few minutes before scrubbing and rubbing in the direction of the original satin finish markings takes everything in the way of dirt and
    polish off of the piano leaving the original finish clean and in rather good condition.  A second washing is preferred or washing til clean. 
    None of the American piano satin finishes in the age range mentioned have been damaged using this exact method. 
    The preferred applicators are clean cotton terrycloth towels in good condition. The scrubbing towels will get dirty, the final application must be
    performed with clean Windex and clean towels.  This is labor and supplies-intensive, time-consuming and rewarding.
    At a point in time water base finishes became preferred(Ha-ha-ha-ha!).  Use caution and common sense with this method on those
    finishes. 

    This is presented in the hope that others with the experience of doing this specific work will offer an and easier way with a better result.

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    Ed Whitting, RPT
    Lake Forest Ca.
    714.501.4717
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