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Have any of you tried this? It’s 3M Scotchrap 51 protection tape, 2”. I’ve had it on a few pianos now, and no complaints. I prefer to wait until wood starts to show. It looks better than bare patches but obviously not as good as original finish. I talked with our local refinisher, and he agrees that it will make refinishing easier by preventing gouging. High-quality adhesive should be long-lasting and should not make stripping for refinishing more difficult.

Anyone have other reasons not to do this?

Doug Wood

Interesting idea. I didn’t see a photo attachment, did I miss one? I would only caution about putting any sort of tape up as high on the fallboard as the brass decal letters on older satin lacquer Steinways. It makes life very hard when someone pulls the tape away and it pulls the brass letters out, which are more or less inlaid into the lacquer. (Actually, they covered the logo with lacquer and sanded away until it showed, but in essence they are brass inlays.) When a letter or the lyre logo comes out, it can get bent or broken, and even when whole, it’s tough to get back into the original impression when refinishing.

The major scratches and gouges are usually lower down, so it may not matter.

Kathy


Original Message------

Have any of you tried this? It’s 3M Scotchrap 51 protection tape, 2”. I’ve had it on a few pianos now, and no complaints. I prefer to wait until wood starts to show. It looks better than bare patches but obviously not as good as original finish. I talked with our local refinisher, and he agrees that it will make refinishing easier by preventing gouging. High-quality adhesive should be long-lasting and should not make stripping for refinishing more difficult.

Anyone have other reasons not to do this?

Doug Wood

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Regards,

Jon Page
mailto:jonpage@pianocapecod.com
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Original Message:
Sent: 07-27-2019 14:43
From: Kathy Smith
Subject: Fallboard protection

Interesting idea. I didn't see a photo attachment, did I miss one? I would only caution about putting any sort of tape up as high on the fallboard as the brass decal letters on older satin lacquer Steinways. It makes life very hard when someone pulls the tape away and it pulls the brass letters out, which are more or less inlaid into the lacquer. (Actually, they covered the logo with lacquer and sanded away until it showed, but in essence they are brass inlays.) When a letter or the lyre logo comes out, it can get bent or broken, and even when whole, it's tough to get back into the original impression when refinishing.

The major scratches and gouges are usually lower down, so it may not matter.

Kathy


Original Message------

Have any of you tried this? It's 3M Scotchrap 51 protection tape, 2". I've had it on a few pianos now, and no complaints. I prefer to wait until wood starts to show. It looks better than bare patches but obviously not as good as original finish. I talked with our local refinisher, and he agrees that it will make refinishing easier by preventing gouging. High-quality adhesive should be long-lasting and should not make stripping for refinishing more difficult.

Anyone have other reasons not to do this?

Doug Wood

I'll try attaching the image within the my.ptg.org page. Look closely as the tape is not applied where it seems to wander off the edge of the fallboard.


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Douglas Wood
Seattle WA
206-935-5797
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Original Message:
Sent: 07-27-2019 14:47
From: Jon Page
Subject: Fallboard protection

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Regards,

Jon Page
mailto:jonpage@pianocapecod.com
http://www.pianocapecod.com

Original Message:
Sent: 07-27-2019 14:43
From: Kathy Smith
Subject: Fallboard protection

Interesting idea. I didn't see a photo attachment, did I miss one? I would only caution about putting any sort of tape up as high on the fallboard as the brass decal letters on older satin lacquer Steinways. It makes life very hard when someone pulls the tape away and it pulls the brass letters out, which are more or less inlaid into the lacquer. (Actually, they covered the logo with lacquer and sanded away until it showed, but in essence they are brass inlays.) When a letter or the lyre logo comes out, it can get bent or broken, and even when whole, it's tough to get back into the original impression when refinishing.

The major scratches and gouges are usually lower down, so it may not matter.

Kathy


Original Message------

Have any of you tried this? It's 3M Scotchrap 51 protection tape, 2". I've had it on a few pianos now, and no complaints. I prefer to wait until wood starts to show. It looks better than bare patches but obviously not as good as original finish. I talked with our local refinisher, and he agrees that it will make refinishing easier by preventing gouging. High-quality adhesive should be long-lasting and should not make stripping for refinishing more difficult.

Anyone have other reasons not to do this?

Doug Wood

Original Message------

Interesting idea. I didn’t see a photo attachment, did I miss one? I would only caution about putting any sort of tape up as high on the fallboard as the brass decal letters on older satin lacquer Steinways. It makes life very hard when someone pulls the tape away and it pulls the brass letters out, which are more or less inlaid into the lacquer. (Actually, they covered the logo with lacquer and sanded away until it showed, but in essence they are brass inlays.) When a letter or the lyre logo comes out, it can get bent or broken, and even when whole, it’s tough to get back into the original impression when refinishing.

The major scratches and gouges are usually lower down, so it may not matter.

Kathy

I did not see a picture of the tape you refer to but keep in mind there are various types of adhesives used on tape that could create a nightmare down the road. I would ask someone at Scotch about the issues that may surface in the near term or long term. There are various types of painters tapes that have to be removed within a certain time por they will bond to the wall/wood/metal . A small piece of thin plexiglass, lucite, acylic might work well if it can be clipped/hooked into place clearing the key stick.

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James Kelly
Pawleys Island SC
843-325-4357
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Original Message:
Sent: 07-27-2019 13:27
From: Douglas Wood
Subject: Fallboard protection

Have any of you tried this? It's 3M Scotchrap 51 protection tape, 2". I've had it on a few pianos now, and no complaints. I prefer to wait until wood starts to show. It looks better than bare patches but obviously not as good as original finish. I talked with our local refinisher, and he agrees that it will make refinishing easier by preventing gouging. High-quality adhesive should be long-lasting and should not make stripping for refinishing more difficult.

Anyone have other reasons not to do this?

Doug Wood

oops just saw your pictures which were not there earlier

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James Kelly
Pawleys Island SC
843-325-4357
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Original Message:
Sent: 07-27-2019 16:32
From: James Kelly
Subject: Fallboard protection

I did not see a picture of the tape you refer to but keep in mind there are various types of adhesives used on tape that could create a nightmare down the road. I would ask someone at Scotch about the issues that may surface in the near term or long term. There are various types of painters tapes that have to be removed within a certain time por they will bond to the wall/wood/metal . A small piece of thin plexiglass, lucite, acylic might work well if it can be clipped/hooked into place clearing the key stick.

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James Kelly
Pawleys Island SC
843-325-4357

Original Message:
Sent: 07-27-2019 13:27
From: Douglas Wood
Subject: Fallboard protection

Have any of you tried this? It's 3M Scotchrap 51 protection tape, 2". I've had it on a few pianos now, and no complaints. I prefer to wait until wood starts to show. It looks better than bare patches but obviously not as good as original finish. I talked with our local refinisher, and he agrees that it will make refinishing easier by preventing gouging. High-quality adhesive should be long-lasting and should not make stripping for refinishing more difficult.

Anyone have other reasons not to do this?

Doug Wood

That was the discussion with the refinisher. He was of the opinion that even with badly misbehaving adhesive, we're no worse off: the piece needs refinishing in either case, and the tape and adhesive won't increase the work involved in stripping. Unlike the gouging, which then requires some kind of repair. Plus this tape is from 3M and designed for long-term (exterior!) use.

In the institutional setting (e.g. practice rooms), the fallboard will likely never be refinished. If the tape deteriorates, it can be pulled off (or even scraped off, if necessary 50 years down the road...), and the area re-taped. Still looks better than exposed wood in the gouges.

But I still want to encourage any thoughts on long-term problems before I get all our pianos taped up. !

BTW, the material is PVC, as is the material for most guitar pick guards. And for "lizard skin", used to protect bike frames from chain slapping.

Doug

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Douglas Wood
Seattle WA
206-935-5797
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Original Message:
Sent: 07-27-2019 16:34
From: James Kelly
Subject: Fallboard protection

oops just saw your pictures which were not there earlier

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James Kelly
Pawleys Island SC
843-325-4357

Original Message:
Sent: 07-27-2019 16:32
From: James Kelly
Subject: Fallboard protection

I did not see a picture of the tape you refer to but keep in mind there are various types of adhesives used on tape that could create a nightmare down the road. I would ask someone at Scotch about the issues that may surface in the near term or long term. There are various types of painters tapes that have to be removed within a certain time por they will bond to the wall/wood/metal . A small piece of thin plexiglass, lucite, acylic might work well if it can be clipped/hooked into place clearing the key stick.

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James Kelly
Pawleys Island SC
843-325-4357

Original Message:
Sent: 07-27-2019 13:27
From: Douglas Wood
Subject: Fallboard protection

Have any of you tried this? It's 3M Scotchrap 51 protection tape, 2". I've had it on a few pianos now, and no complaints. I prefer to wait until wood starts to show. It looks better than bare patches but obviously not as good as original finish. I talked with our local refinisher, and he agrees that it will make refinishing easier by preventing gouging. High-quality adhesive should be long-lasting and should not make stripping for refinishing more difficult.

Anyone have other reasons not to do this?

Doug Wood