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Fall board issue

  • 1.  Fall board issue

    Member
    Posted 09-14-2026 11:39

    Hi everyone,

    I'm currently working on a Schimmel grand piano and am having trouble removing the fallboard.

    I've tried standard removal methods, but it seems locked in place or utilizes a mechanism I haven't encountered before.

    Does anyone know the specific trick or release mechanism for Schimmel grand fallboards?

    Any tips on what to look for-or potential hidden pins/levers-would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks in advance,

    Joe



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    Joseph Lee
    Levittown NY
    (917) 887-8001
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  • 2.  RE: Fall board issue

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 09-14-2026 11:54

    You should be able to just remove the screw and lift it up.  It may be that the case has warped a little and is pinching the fallboard.  You should see some clearance on either side of the fall board.  Does it move easily up and down?  I don't think there's any hidden latches on the piano that would prevent it from being pulled straight up AFAIK.



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    Paul McCloud, RPT
    Accutone Piano Service
    www.AccutonePianoService.com
    pavadasa@gmail.com
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  • 3.  RE: Fall board issue

    Member
    Posted 09-14-2026 12:04
    Hi Paul,
    Thanks for the quick response! 
    I did remove the tiny screws on both sides, but unfortunately, the fallboard still didn't budge at all. It feels completely locked in.


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    Joseph Lee
    Levittown NY
    (917) 887-8001
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  • 4.  RE: Fall board issue

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 09-14-2026 12:07
    It might just be jammed. A hard pull towards you might dislodge it.
    Sent from my iPhone




  • 5.  RE: Fall board issue

    Member
    Posted 09-15-2026 13:29

    Thank you for your reply!



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    Joseph Lee
    Levittown NY
    (917) 887-8001
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  • 6.  RE: Fall board issue

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 09-14-2026 12:10

    If you force the arms apart, would that help?  The only thing I can guess is that the screws holding the mechanism got loose and are interfering with the movement of the fallboard.  When you remove the screw, is the hole clear of anything inside?  I'm grasping for straws..



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    Paul McCloud, RPT
    Accutone Piano Service
    www.AccutonePianoService.com
    pavadasa@gmail.com
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  • 7.  RE: Fall board issue

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 09-15-2026 09:34

    I have one that has needed access a few times. The only way I have found is to lift the right hand side, provide clearance for the fallboard so there is no contact with the cheek, then lift it up AND out by sideways movement -- sliding it out of the left-hand pin-holding hardware. It has worked. The finish is shiny and the piano is a bit expensive, so caution is needed. Also .... I've never gotten to checking in with Schimmel to see what they intend. I googled it a moment ago, and got nothing useful.



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    David Patterson RPT
    Newmarket ON
    (416) 638-0901
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  • 8.  RE: Fall board issue

    Member
    Posted 09-15-2026 13:30

    Hi David,

    I will try that if I get chance

    Thank you!



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    Joseph Lee
    Levittown NY
    (917) 887-8001
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  • 9.  RE: Fall board issue

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 09-15-2026 15:18

    Hi Joe,

    I did a full regulation on a Schimmel grand recently and the fallboard came off as normal without any special trick. Unfortunately, I don't have the model or serial recorded. It might just be a tight fit. Hope David's suggestion helps!



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    Elisha Katamura RPT
    Katamura Piano Service
    Fresno, CA
    (559)765-7373
    https://www.katamurapianoservice.com/
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  • 10.  RE: Fall board issue

    Member
    Posted 30 days ago

    Thank you for your reply!



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    Joseph Lee
    Levittown NY
    (917) 887-8001
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  • 11.  RE: Fall board issue

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 30 days ago
    Maybe more info would help? Twice I had seen this Schimmel C169 5'7" Grand #373716 built 2016. Both times I could not remove the fallboard by any means at all. But the next time he had approved easing [88] keys, correcting rebounding hammers, minor regulation. So I didn't have a lot of choice. Brute force didn't work and feels very unsafe. Sliding out from the down position or a lower angle, to accommodate the slow-fall thing .... no luck. Prying with a crowbar? Well, I didn't try that.

    Maybe they did design it to slide the left fallboard pivot pin on and off the holding mechanism. Maybe they didn't. I really don't know.





  • 12.  RE: Fall board issue

    Member
    Posted 30 days ago

    Interesting... Next time around I will try everything and get back to you all! Thank you!



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    Joseph Lee
    Levittown NY
    (917) 887-8001
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  • 13.  RE: Fall board issue

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 30 days ago

    Is the stretcher in this piano removable? In some pianos (i.e. most American made pianos) the stretcher is an integral part of the case. In others (some European and Japanese grand models) you'll find the stretcher is secured by screws that go through the inner lip of the plate.

    If you can remove this stretcher, you'll probably see what's making the fall board so stubborn.



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    Patrick Draine RPT
    Billerica MA
    (978) 663-9690
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  • 14.  RE: Fall board issue

    Member
    Posted 30 days ago

    Hi Patrick,

    I am not sure if the stretcher is removable, but there is a soft-close mechanism connected to the fallboard

    I will check if I get chance

    Thank you for your reply!



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    Joseph Lee
    Levittown NY
    (917) 887-8001
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  • 15.  RE: Fall board issue

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 30 days ago

    I think Patrick's on to something here, at minimum it should allow you to look in behind the fallboard.

    If you're still stymied, I wonder if you can remove the keyslip and the screws for the end blocks, perhaps removing them as well might reveal something. 

    It's mysterious that neither end of the fall board will come loose. If you know someone with an endoscope, that might prove helpful.

    It's embarrassing to tell the client you can't take the cabinet apart. A couple years ago I was unable to remove the music desk from a pre WWII Kimball vertical. =-/



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    Steven Rosenthal RPT
    Honolulu HI
    (808) 521-7129
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  • 16.  RE: Fall board issue

    Member
    Posted 30 days ago
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    Hi Steven,

    I did remove the keyslip and both cheekblocks (pict attached) but I didn't catch much

    It was embarrassing spending more than 30 minutes trying to remove the fallboard

    Thank you for sharing your story!



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    Joseph Lee
    Levittown NY
    (917) 887-8001
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  • 17.  RE: Fall board issue

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 30 days ago
    Did you try to contact Schimmel?

    Victor Belanger
    Belmont, MA





  • 18.  RE: Fall board issue

    Member
    Posted 29 days ago

    Hi Victor,

    Good idea!

    I emailed just now, if they happened to have a manual 

    Thank you!



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    Joseph Lee
    Levittown NY
    (917) 887-8001
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  • 19.  RE: Fall board issue

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 30 days ago
    🛠️ How the Schimmel Fallboard Attachment Works
    "If you are trying to remove or repair the fallboard, technicians generally follow these structural steps:
    Remove the Cheek Blocks: The wooden blocks on either side of the keyboard must be unscrewed from underneath the keybed and pulled straight up.
    Locate the Hidden Brackets: Once the blocks are out, you will expose the metal brackets and slow-close dampers attached to the inner rim.
    Lift at the Right Angle: Schimmel fallboards typically require you to pivot the lid to a specific angle (usually around 45 to 60 degrees) to line up the internal pins with the bracket slots before it can be lifted cleanly out. Avoid forcing it, as this can bend or strip the internal hydraulic dampening gear."
    The above is from a Google/AI search.  If I am correct (?), there is a piston mounted on the inner rim that provides the slow close damping.  Baldwin grands also had this same mechanism.  You can see part of the piston in the latest photo under the bottom edge of the fallboard.  You can't lift the fallboard straight up to get it off, the fallboard has to be tilted outward, and the screw must be removed.  Also, when you want to reinstall the fallboard, the slots in the fallboard brackets have to be at that same angle, and the attachment to the piston has to be angled to match, though it tends to move from that precise location.  Hard to describe, but if you look carefully at it , you'll understand what I'm talking about.
    So, my advice is to remove the screw completely, as well as any screw on the other side. then angle the fallboard outward at 45 deg angle and pull it up and out.
    I hope this helps.


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    Paul McCloud, RPT
    Accutone Piano Service
    www.AccutonePianoService.com
    pavadasa@gmail.com
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  • 20.  RE: Fall board issue

    Member
    Posted 29 days ago

    Thank you, Paul!



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    Joseph Lee
    Levittown NY
    (917) 887-8001
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