Original Message:
Sent: 10-09-2024 18:55
From: Joe Wiencek
Subject: Steinway 100 compact butts
I have used CA and baking soda, especially to repair stripped screw holes. It is indeed hard, though it is also brittle in my experiments.
Joe
Original Message:
Sent: 10/9/2024 6:45:00 PM
From: Peter Grey
Subject: RE: Steinway 100 compact butts
This is true. Evidently cigarette ashes act similarly according to another video. But i wouldn't take up the habit for it.
I use a thickened rubber toughened CA adhesive from BSI. It is STRONG! It has saved my butt numerous times when I have needed high strength fast (beyond piano work). Like CBL I don't leave home without it. It borders on epoxy strength. IC-2000 is the name. It's black.
Peter Grey Piano Doctor
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Peter Grey
Stratham NH
(603) 686-2395
pianodoctor57@gmail.com
Original Message:
Sent: 10-09-2024 15:27
From: Steven Rosenthal
Subject: Steinway 100 compact butts
Peter's remark reminds me of something I've seen on youtube but don't recall mentioned on the forum.
One can build up a strong material by using baking soda and then soaking with CA. Very hard and can be filed and sanded.
There's a chemical bond with the calcium carbonate in the baking soda that makes it stronger than the CA alone.
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Steven Rosenthal RPT
Honolulu HI
(808) 521-7129
Original Message:
Sent: 10-09-2024 14:56
From: Peter Grey
Subject: Steinway 100 compact butts
Joe,
Once you get started you'll find it not as daunting as you thought. Also, the trick of reinforcing with a tiny dowel such as a toothpick (where possible) and/or gluing veneer or file card over and around a joint (e.g., broken key repair) and making a dam with CA or making it all-as-one with CA can produce an amazingly durable repair. Even if the first one comes out lousy just cut it off and try again. You can do it.
Peter Grey Piano Doctor
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Peter Grey
Stratham NH
(603) 686-2395
pianodoctor57@gmail.com
Original Message:
Sent: 10-09-2024 10:25
From: Joe Wiencek
Subject: Steinway 100 compact butts
I had thought I might need to rebuild the butt if necessary, though a little wary of the stresses to that repair location. A little used note is a good solution. I have a few used butts on the way, but if those aren't close enough a match, I may well have to rebuild it.
Thanks for the encouragement.
Joe
Original Message:
Sent: 10/8/2024 7:25:00 AM
From: Peter Grey
Subject: RE: Steinway 100 compact butts
Joe,
The action parts were reconditionable in that piano. Of course hammers, dampers, whip cloth, bushings, etc all were replaced. I had a lot of trouble with the dampers as I did not initially realize that original dimensions were critical to adhere to due to close tolerances. However I eventually figured that one out.
From what I saw in your photo I think you could rebuild that. I did it with an antique Ibach a few years back. If it's only a couple or a few, that's what I would do and then put them in a low use area such as high treble or low bass. Just a suggestion.
PeterGreyPianoDoctor
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Peter Grey
Stratham NH
(603) 686-2395
pianodoctor57@gmail.com
Original Message:
Sent: 10-07-2024 18:46
From: Joe Wiencek
Subject: Steinway 100 compact butts
Thanks for that Peter. I may have to go that route. I recall you were rescaling either a Steinway 100 or a 40 recently that you described on Pianotech. Did you replace parts as well?
Joe
Original Message:
Sent: 10/7/2024 6:00:00 PM
From: Peter Grey
Subject: RE: Steinway 100 compact butts
Sounds like a job for a 3D printer. Contact Steve James @ 847.370.3754.
If that fails I have someone here who is pretty handy with the thing.
Peter Grey Piano Doctor
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Peter Grey
Stratham NH
(603) 686-2395
pianodoctor57@gmail.com
Original Message:
Sent: 10-06-2024 13:32
From: Joe Wiencek
Subject: Steinway 100 compact butts
Parker,
I have some Tokiwa butts, Billings, but not compact. I haven't located compact Billings butts, though I haven't tried Brooks yet. Thanks for the suggestion.
Joe
Original Message:
Sent: 10/6/2024 9:50:00 AM
From: Parker Leigh
Subject: RE: Steinway 100 compact butts
Have you tried the Tokiwa Billings Butt? Normal compact is S2, sadly not Billings. Check with Brooks.
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Parker Leigh RPT
Winchester VA
(540) 722-3865
Original Message:
Sent: 10-04-2024 15:54
From: Joe Wiencek
Subject: Steinway 100 compact butts
I'm looking for a compact butt with Billings' flange for Steinway 100. I can't find anywhere that makes them for sale, so wondering if anyone out there has any spare butts. Trying to attach pic.
Joe Wiencek