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  • 1.  What would an alien piano look like?

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 08-12-2026 01:18

    This is not an idle or trivial question.

    Coming from a completely non-human perspective, what would a keyboard look like if invented without any of our human historical influence?  This is assuming an ability to play using somthing like our human fingers, though perhaps with more or less than 10 fingers (a crab with 12 claws/legs?).

    Would a string system like ours likely occur?

    What would an action look like?  Would a Schwander or Steinway style action evolve independently or is there a better system waiting to be invented? An improvement on the Viennese system?



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    Blaine Hebert RPT
    Duarte CA
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  • 2.  RE: What would an alien piano look like?

    Posted 08-12-2026 09:17

    Blaine, you are asking at least three mechanical questions, each assuming certain similarities with pianos.

    First, I think we need to ask "What is music to the non-human creature? Does it have any sound qualities in common with the qualities chosen by the piano design?"

    To give an example closer to home: The classical Chinese qin, the instrument played by Confucius, had seven strings tuned in a pentatonic scale, and historic technics described 1070 ways to pluck a string! (Modern players use at least 40.) Some notes are played so quietly that they can only be heard in the attentive mind. How would you build a piano for this music?

    Perhaps you can clarify your question's purpose.



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    Ed Sutton
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  • 3.  RE: What would an alien piano look like?

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 08-12-2026 14:13

    Bartender, I'll have whatever Blaine is having!

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  • 4.  RE: What would an alien piano look like?

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 08-13-2026 02:07

    Ed, My question had several reasons for asking.

    I wondered have we exhausted the potential of our chosen instument?  Looking over the last 200 years there have been quite a niumber of experimental innovations, many of which went nowhere, but many are enshrined in our present piano versions.  Would a very external view of a similar instrument come up with improvements that we have not yet thought of?  I have seen ancient uprights from the heyday of uprights with a few structural and scale innovations that seem worthy of emulation, unfortunately this was often on pianos literally headed to the dump.

    I remember the early days of personal computers, when the layout of the keyboard was being seriously questioned.  Our present QWERTY keyboard was actually designed to be slow and inefficient to force typists to slow down and not overwhelm the capabilities of early machines.  Was our keyboard pattern of three and two sharps against naturals really the most efficient?  Many accordianists seem to be pretty musically proficient using the chromatic or diatonic keyboard.

    And, is there some yet undiscovered innovation in action design or regulation that improves piano performance even further?  The Viennese action persisted even to today because it had qualities that some musicians preferred.

    Lastly, I just like being provocative :-b



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    Blaine Hebert RPT
    Duarte CA
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  • 5.  RE: What would an alien piano look like?

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 08-13-2026 10:26

    Blaine,

    First off, I raise my glass to your provocativity! When first considering any issue, I try to start out with unbridled creative thinking, completely disregarding physical, logistical or financial practicality. If those ideas cannot be realized as conceived, then I start to cut my suit according to my cloth, and dial it back and until it can be accomplished.

    The initial idea of the piano is over 300 years old, and yet we are still inventing the piano. Examples of this include new materials used for action parts, sound boards, piano lids and other piano related items.

    The era of the Modern Piano was heralded, in part, by the so-called double escapement action of Sebastian Erard. More recently, Darrell Fandrich brought the function of Erard's double escapement action to vertical pianos. Within the last decade, Oliver Esmonde-White and his team have engineered their way to making the regulation of the Fandrich action more practical, and brought it to market at a relatively low price point, in a way that could really catch fire.

    FWIW,

    Alan



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    Alan Eder, RPT
    Herb Alpert School of Music
    California Institute of the Arts
    Valencia, CA
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  • 6.  RE: What would an alien piano look like?

    Posted 08-13-2026 10:13

    Well, for non-human creatures, how about just having a creature with many strong, fast moving, extremely well-controlled fingers with pads on the ends similar to compressed felt?



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    Ed Sutton
    ed440@me.com
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  • 7.  RE: What would an alien piano look like?

    Member
    Posted 08-13-2026 09:59

    This is really an entertaining question.  Something to consider is "what constraints does this non-human musician (and instrument designer) have to work with?"

    In other words, what compromises would they have to make in building an instrument like a piano?  

    Concerning the action, assuming the designer is starting from scratch, how many ways of achieving escapement are there, and which one would they pick?  I think the rest of the design would fall into place around that.



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    Dale Dahlberg
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  • 8.  RE: What would an alien piano look like?

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 08-13-2026 10:44

    I remember in the movie that 1900 couldn't play on an infinite keyboard. He needed the limits of 88 keys to make infinite music.



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