John,
The soft punchings thought is intriguing. Is that something you've encountered? The ones on this piano don't seem to be particularly soft. I was able to compare them with ones on a newish P22.
If the rail deflects, what would that indicate? that the metal supports aren't stout enough?
Again, the game I'm playing here is to try to get as close to a new as I can for not much outlay. I did my One Weird Trick to to recrown and add impedance to the soundboard. Tried to clean up the string terminations, restrung. Now I'm trying to see what I have to do to get fairly close let off.
Next time I'll likely go for the new butts, but I would really like to get a handle on exactly what it takes to make it really work well. So, I appreciate all the input.
I realize this is not normally done!
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John Pope
University of Kentucky School of Music
Lexington, KY
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Original Message:
Sent: 04-14-2022 16:20
From: John Rhodes
Subject: New vertical hammers blocking
John, on the blocking note, use your finger to resist the hammer's movement toward the string while you slowly depress the key to let off. Closely observe how the jack toe is pressing into the let off button felt as the hammer approaches the strings. Perhaps your replacement felt is too soft.
Also look for any deflection of the let off rail when you load the hammer as above. If the rail and felt appear to be correct, then be sure the jack tip is not digging into a dent or groove in the butt; if that is the case, then add a bit more bolster yarn under the buckskin.
Finally, increasing the let off distance (along with all the other associated regulation adjustments) will most certainly cure the problem. Remember this is a 57+ year old upright practice piano! Don't expect it to perform like a new/grand instrument.
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John Rhodes
Vancouver WA
360-721-0728
jrhodes@pacifier.com
Original Message:
Sent: 04-14-2022 12:29
From: John Pope
Subject: New vertical hammers blocking
On a normal blow checking was at 5/8" or so but on the odd hard blow escapement would not happen, The jack had the hammer pressed against the string and there was space between the catcher and the backcheck. I don't think checking was a factor here.
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John Pope
University of Kentucky School of Music
Lexington, KY
Original Message:
Sent: 04-14-2022 12:12
From: Matteo Crudo
Subject: New vertical hammers blocking
I feel like let off reduction may help, but also check on the checking capabilities. Are the back checks or catcher leathers too smooth? Try roughing each up a bit on a bad note to see what comes of it. Curious....
Original Message:
Sent: 4/13/2022 11:59:00 AM
From: John Pope
Subject: New vertical hammers blocking
I installed new hammer heads on a Yamaha P2 from 1965. This was part of an experiment to see how well I can rebuild practice room pianos instead of replacing them with new ones. Money was especially tight this year. The butts looked usable so I kept them. But now on a herd blow, now and then, hammers will block.
I removed all the hammers and smoothed a little ridge on each that I thought was the culprit (where the jack had let off a thousand times before). I actually cut it off with an xacto knife. It didn't seem to help. I tried bolstering a few butts with rug yarn and this seems to help but before I go ahead and do all 88 I'd like to hear other peoples experience with this.
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John Pope
University of Kentucky School of Music
Lexington, KY
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