Sounds good to me, obviously playing it in person is totally different. From clips so far I can tell it sounds good.
Original Message:
Sent: 04-10-2024 12:06
From: William Truitt
Subject: No downbearing, only zig zag pins?
the Opus 102 from Stephen Paulello - no ribs, no down bearing or up bearing, no side bearing in the horizontal plane. 3 points of deflection inside the agraffe. Think a string at tension running from the agraffe or v-bar at the front to the htich pin. The agraffe is at a nuetral axis in the vertical and horizontal planes. No ribs, barless, a single continuous bridge. 102 notes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5L0P8mBqAMk&ab_channel=LucasDebargueVEVO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-VAHN_tdnM&ab_channel=LucasDebargueVEVO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaglAzsdVDw&ab_channel=lucasdebarguevideo
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William Truitt RPT
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Original Message:
Sent: 04-10-2024 09:53
From: Larry Messerly
Subject: No downbearing, only zig zag pins?
Have you asked the same question of luthiers?
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Larry Messerly, RPT
Bringing Harmony to Homes
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Original Message:
Sent: 04-10-2024 08:55
From: Hey There
Subject: No downbearing, only zig zag pins?
I haven't thought about unglueing. Maybe zero bearing, or alternate 1 string downbearing/next string upbearing. I'll check Paulello, I heard positive things about his strings.
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Hey There
023428578
Original Message:
Sent: 04-10-2024 06:33
From: Tim Foster
Subject: No downbearing, only zig zag pins?
Hello,
Just a practical matter, I've seen "up bearing" on pianos I've rebuilt. Strings pulling up means that the glue joints themselves are stressed. I'm repairing an old board now in which the bridge literally was pulled away from the ribs. I've also seen bass bridge caps separated. The glue joints are strong, but not designed for sustained up pressure.
Stephen Paulello redesigned the piano in many ways, if you are interested in innovative designs, check out his pianos, especially the Opus 102.
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Tim Foster RPT
New Oxford PA
(470) 231-6074
Original Message:
Sent: 04-10-2024 03:11
From: Hey There
Subject: No downbearing, only zig zag pins?
I agree with you, in the piano world I am sure there is space for more than one sound. Compared to violin, where you can choose between a Stradivari or a Guarneri thicknessing, but the sound will be always a good one, and there's apparently nothing new to experiment. But for the piano world maybe there is still something to explore or rediscover, because there are more than one sound that we love, from a 7foot, a baby grand, or an upright. See the recent Klavins Una corda, it challenges any rule, with a very beautiful sound, not very powerful, but really nice, a steel plate, and no ribs in the soundboard.
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Hey There
023428578
Original Message:
Sent: 04-10-2024 01:50
From: Blaine Hebert
Subject: No downbearing, only zig zag pins?
After 300 years of pianos and literally millions of pianos made we have quite a few examples of high and low downbearing to listen to (and tune). The proof is in the pudding (s), some downbearing seems to be essential, but some pianos have a pleasant sound with minmal downbearing.
Manufacurers and rebuilders have been experimenting for quite a long time and there is some consensus, but there may be a few examples of pianos that break the rules. Its a subject worth discussing and experimenting with.
Being primarily a technician and tuner I just try to improve what is in front of me and let the rebuilders worry about the details. What the customers (musicians) prefer in sound is what evolves, though breaking the rules is how we find out what works.
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Blaine Hebert RPT
Duarte CA
(626) 390-0512
Original Message:
Sent: 04-09-2024 05:39
From: Hey There
Subject: No downbearing, only zig zag pins?
Hi I was reading this interesting thread about downbearing being irrelevant compared to zig zag contact at the bridge pins. I thought I would chime in as a hobbist, and being curious of what you think about this experiment. Compared the tone of the same piano, one with normal bridge, and one with a shorter bridge (so the strings are connected only to the bridge pins, without touching the bridge cap, so no downbearing). Would there be any difference in sound? Is downbearing just a myth to debunk?
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Hey There
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