Pianotech

  • 1.  Right to Repair - John Deere

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 01-09-2023 17:09
    I'm not sure how this will come through, but imagine you can find the story if you look for it.
    It's relevant for some in this profession.
    Ruth


    John Deere gives U.S. farmers right to repair equipment
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    John Deere gives U.S. farmers right to repair equipment
    Jan. 9 (UPI) -- U.S. manufacturer John Deere has agreed to allow American farmers the right to repair their own equipment, according to a U.S. agriculture industry lobby group. The American Farm Bureau Federation, a U.S.
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    Ruth Zeiner
    ruth@alliedpiano.com
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  • 2.  RE: Right to Repair - John Deere

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 01-09-2023 17:48
    The winds of change are ever blowing. I think this good for us all. Steinway may have hitched their service model to a train running out of steam. Who knows.





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  • 3.  RE: Right to Repair - John Deere

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 01-09-2023 18:30
    But can it really be called a John Deere?

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    Larry Messerly, RPT
    Bringing Harmony to Homes
    www.lacrossepianotuning.com
    ljmesserly@gmail.com
    928-899-7292
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  • 4.  RE: Right to Repair - John Deere

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 01-09-2023 18:39
    More important than that; will they allow you to buy a new hood ornament?

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    Karl Roeder
    Pompano Beach FL
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  • 5.  RE: Right to Repair - John Deere

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 01-09-2023 19:55
    I recall seeing this issue discussed on public television (Nova I think...but it might have been some other thing). This equipment costs as much as a house or more and the farmers claim that JD was messing with the software through the "cloud" to make the units stop running (often at the most inopportune time), and then they would have to wait till an "authorized" service person could come to "repair" it (owners were literally locked out). Of course it was expensive to have this done (naturally).  All the time the crops were waiting...

    They were lamenting the days when they could fix anything that broke or went wrong themselves and get back to work.

    I think Audi and other car makers have resorted to some of the same tactics...corporate greed...

    Peter Grey Piano Doctor

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    Peter Grey
    Stratham NH
    (603) 686-2395
    pianodoctor57@gmail.com
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  • 6.  RE: Right to Repair - John Deere

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 01-10-2023 07:59
    My brother in law is a farmer so I have heard a great deal about this issue with John Deere. I have never heard from my brother in law or any of his farmer friends that John Deere deliberately messed with the software to interfere with tractor performance. Not only would that be illegal - but the long term repercussions of of such an action would be catastrophic for the company. Farmers have VERY long memories. 

    What is true is that Deere (like many car makers before them) ​created proprietary software that made it impossible for anyone but an "authorized" shop from repairing their tractors. As a group farmers tend to be very handy and are accustomed to repairing their own equipment - at least the mechanical issues. Computer issues are another story. 

    So what has happened here is very muich like the right-to-repair laws in regard to cars. The computer codes, and specialized tools and parts can no longer be reserved only for John Deere dealers.

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    Gerry Johnston
    Haverhill, MA
    gj@gjpianotuner.com
    www.gjpianotuner.com
    (978) 372-2250
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  • 7.  RE: Right to Repair - John Deere

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 01-10-2023 11:29
    I just a heard review of the agreement.  It sounds good. However, there are no punitive measures included in the agreed upon provisions.  If JD decides to ignore the agreement, the farming community has no legal recourse to force compliance.  Also, the American Farm Bureau Federation negotiated the agreed 'Memorandum of Understanding' was reported to have agreed not to sue JD.  

    We will see how it plays out. 

    For our legal geeks, here is a link to the document; https://www.fb.org/files/AFBF_John_Deere_MOU.pdf

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  • 8.  RE: Right to Repair - John Deere

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 01-11-2023 07:02
    Gerry,

    Yes of course, not in every case, but I do distinctly remember more than one farmer claiming that breakdowns too often seemed too coincidental with the absolute need for the machinery. The tractor would simply stop working and there was NOTHING they could do about it but to call JD and pay through the nose. Conjecture...yes...reality...?? Too often we learn later that the reality is worse than we could have imagined. I'd have to  find the program and watch it again. 

    Peter Grey Piano Doctor

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    Peter Grey
    Stratham NH
    (603) 686-2395
    pianodoctor57@gmail.com
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  • 9.  RE: Right to Repair - John Deere

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 01-10-2023 16:34
    I have a customer who every year sets up multiple "themed" christmas trees. This year one of them was Music & Trains. (🎵 & 🚂)  I'm gonna suggest that next year he do one for Pianos & Tractors. (🎹 & 🚜)

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    Geoff Sykes, RPT
    Los Angeles CA
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