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Samick serial number anyone know the date?

  • 1.  Samick serial number anyone know the date?

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 03-13-2023 23:27

    Hi all, 

      New customer called me with a Samick SG-205 grand, serial number is AA 0804, and my Pierce doesn't show this letter-number sequence (12th edition). Would like to know the date of manufacture--am concerned it might have the expanding brackets.  Thanks!

    David Dewey



  • 2.  RE: Samick serial number anyone know the date?

    Member
    Posted 03-14-2023 00:09

    What makes you concerned that the action brackets are expanding ? Samick is listed as a possible brand wit the problem but you need to see the piano in person . Are the brackets cracked ? is the paint bubbling ? is the regulation way off ? what is the action spread ? Most of the problem was on Young Chang but other makes have the issue including Piano Disc made by YC, Wurlitzers, Joseph Pramberger Signature Grands. The Piano Book supplement may have information and the model number may help trying to determine the build year.



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    James Kelly
    Owner- Fur Elise Piano Service
    Pawleys Island SC
    (843) 325-4357
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  • 3.  RE: Samick serial number anyone know the date?

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 03-14-2023 01:03

    I am concerned because she mentioned some "sticking keys" and I won't see the piano until early next month. And she is curious as to when it was built too, as she is not the original owner.

    DAvid D.






  • 4.  RE: Samick serial number anyone know the date?

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 03-14-2023 20:20

    Hi David,

    If they've mentioned sticking keys, I'm inclined to think it's probably bad center pins. It's unlikely using ProTek will help, so plan on repinning. In the least you'll need to do the ones that are actively causing problems, though it would be better if they'll accept a bid to repin all the hammer flanges. 



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    Benjamin Sanchez, RPT
    Piano Technician / Artisan
    (256) 947-9999
    www.professional-piano-services.com
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  • 5.  RE: Samick serial number anyone know the date?

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 03-14-2023 20:30

    Ben,

    Ah, yes, that's a good possibility. I have another customer in the area with that problem. I mark the ones I've done so I can keep track of them! She doesn't want to have an action rebuild done YET.

    David






  • 6.  RE: Samick serial number anyone know the date?

    Member
    Posted 03-15-2023 20:39
    David

    I have found that the term "sticky keys" in most customers' minds means "something is wrong". I have learned to ignore it as a diagnosis and be ready for anything.

    Rex





  • 7.  RE: Samick serial number anyone know the date?

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 03-15-2023 22:16

    Rex,

      VERY true words!!! One time I went to a house and found almost all the hammers had become unglued and had fallen in the action. The strings were all rusty too. Turns out it spent at least two summers under a swamp cooler! DOA!!

    David






  • 8.  RE: Samick serial number anyone know the date?

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 03-14-2023 02:23

    Since I once worked for Samick I have attempted to educate myself on Samick serial numbers. I have lots of notes and a spreadsheet that helps me, but I have never seen this format of number and I can't find any reference to it.

    Samick and Young Chang were only related briefly in 2004 when Samick bought YC but Korea forced them to separate by 2005.  I doubt that you have an expanding bracket issue.



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    Blaine Hebert RPT
    Duarte CA
    (626) 795-5170
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  • 9.  RE: Samick serial number anyone know the date?

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 03-14-2023 06:32
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    Looks line Indonesia January 1990. Maybe



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    Larry Messerly, RPT
    Bringing Harmony to Homes
    www.lacrossepianotuning.com
    ljmesserly@gmail.com
    928-899-7292
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  • 10.  RE: Samick serial number anyone know the date?

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 03-14-2023 08:42

    Blaine's already given the info on brackets and I totally agree; not something I would really out in the mind unless there's sever blocking. I haven't seen any actual Samick's ever having the bracket issue even though I just ran across a Weber (YC) last week with the problem, gave it some temporary aftertouch, and the new brackets are already on order. 

    I would think ore about tight keybushings (iron with cauls to correct) and tight action centers (plan on repinning). 

    Maybe you can get the client to make a video of the problem. 

    For direct info on Samick serial numbers, contact Whitney Wey at Samick US - wwey@smcmusic.com



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    Allan Gilreath, RPT
    Registered Piano Technician & President
    Allan Gilreath & Associates, Inc
    Calhoun, GA
    706-602-7667
    allan@allangilreath.com - www.allangilreath.com
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  • 11.  RE: Samick serial number anyone know the date?

    Posted 03-14-2023 09:04

    Hello all,

    This serial number would indicate that the piano was built in 1988.  As per Blaine and Allan's replies, we have not had an issue with expanding action brackets



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    Veronica Jane Jones
    Piano Service Manager
    Samick Music Corporation
    Hendersonville, TN
    615-206-0077
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  • 12.  RE: Samick serial number anyone know the date?

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 03-14-2023 13:11

    Thanks Veronica, I've been trying to find the year but it wasn't showing up in the online atlas. Where did you find it?



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    Benjamin Sanchez, RPT
    Piano Technician / Artisan
    (256) 947-9999
    www.professional-piano-services.com
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  • 13.  RE: Samick serial number anyone know the date?

    Posted 03-14-2023 13:18

    Hi Benjamin,

    It's not in publication anywhere.  I'm service manager for Samick and just had the information at my disposal. LOL.

    Thanks!

    Jane (aka Veronica)



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    Veronica Jane Jones
    Piano Service Manager
    Samick Music Corporation
    Hendersonville, TN
    615-206-0077
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  • 14.  RE: Samick serial number anyone know the date?

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 03-14-2023 14:33

    Hi all, Thank you Veronica for the info! And thank you everyone for your repsonses!

    David Dewey






  • 15.  RE: Samick serial number anyone know the date?

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 03-14-2023 20:17

    Ah, that would explain things. 😂 Thanks for sharing!



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    Benjamin Sanchez, RPT
    Piano Technician / Artisan
    (256) 947-9999
    www.professional-piano-services.com
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  • 16.  RE: Samick serial number anyone know the date?

    Posted 02-13-2024 18:06

    Greetings, we have a fine arts academy in North Irving Texas, we are finding some conflicting information on a Samick serial number production location and date, seems a lot has happened with this company, curious if anyone could help on this one, HIJC 0656 ( SG-185) thank you



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    Brian Harrington
    North Irving TX
    (214) 912-5924
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  • 17.  RE: Samick serial number anyone know the date?

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 02-13-2024 18:27
    Made in 1992
    Sent from my iPhone




  • 18.  RE: Samick serial number anyone know the date?

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 02-13-2024 18:45

    My information suggest 1989.  Unfortunately, Samick's serial numbers tend to be somewhat cryptic.  HI suggests 1989, but JC doesn't related to month in my notes.



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    Blaine Hebert RPT
    Duarte CA
    (626) 390-0512
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  • 19.  RE: Samick serial number anyone know the date?

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 02-14-2024 07:43

    Call Jane Jones at Samick. She is nice to talk with. 



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    Dave Conte, RPT

    Piano Technician in Residence
    The University of Tennessee
    College of Music
    Knoxville TN
    (817) 307-5656
    Owner: Rocky Top Piano
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  • 20.  RE: Samick serial number anyone know the date?

    Posted 02-14-2024 09:32

    Good morning!

    (Thanks, Dave!)

    Blaine is correct.....this piano is a 1989.

    Veronica (Jane) Jones



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    Veronica Jane Jones
    Piano Service Manager
    Samick Music Corporation
    Hendersonville, TN
    615-206-0077
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  • 21.  RE: Samick serial number anyone know the date?

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 02-14-2024 09:50

    H=8, I=9 year 1989

    J= 10 I'm presuming October

    C=3 I'm presuming the third 

    So Third of October 1989



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    Larry Messerly, RPT
    Bringing Harmony to Homes
    www.lacrossepianotuning.com
    ljmesserly@gmail.com
    928-899-7292
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  • 22.  RE: Samick serial number anyone know the date?

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 02-15-2024 01:29

    Larry,

    Unfortunately, I suspect you are correct.  Unfortunately because I suspect that Samick's system evolved enough to be chaotic for anyone but the Samick factory.

    The serial number at the end of the letter code was supposed to be pianos made in a month, so HIJ should stand for January 1989. C should represent Console.

    Here is what I have:

    Country Decade Year Month Style
    K = Korea H = 1980s J = 0 A = JAN G = Grand
    I = Indonseia I = 1990s K = 1 B = FEB O = Upright
    J = 2000s L = 2 C = MAR
    K = 2010s M = 3 D = APR
    L = 2020s N = 4 E = MAY
    M = 2030s O = 5 F = JUNE
      P = 6 G = JULY
      Q = 7 H = AUG
      R = 8 I = SEPT
    S = 9 J = OCT
    K = NOV
    L = DEC


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    Blaine Hebert RPT
    Duarte CA
    (626) 390-0512
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