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I've got a little problem: I have a customer with a Steinway M. It was poorly restrung 30 years ago, but at this point I'm sure she doesn't want to pay for more work. Two pins, I think size 4, needed more torque, and took the opportunity to try and fix them while replacing two non-matching bass strings. I removed both pins, swabbed the inside of the holes with medium CA, and hammered them back in. One turned out well, the other is ridiculously tight, even after multiple tunings. I have a feeling the medium CA  is flexible enough to not wear in like the thin stuff. I can tune it, but I'm afraid one of these days I'm going to break the darn pin.

What are my options at this point? Remove the pin and try a smaller size? Ream the hole a bit, like with a gun-cleaning brush?
thanks!

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Scott Cole, RPT
rvpianotuner.com
Talent, OR
(541-601-9033
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Wow-sorry you're having this issue. I would probably remove the pin & either ream it with the correct size reamer or perhaps use one of the wire brush tools that Schaff makes just for the purpose of "deglazing" the hole. (I think Protek sells the readers. I'm pretty sure I have the 3/0 and the 4/0 readers. From past jobs.)

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Kevin Fortenberry
Registered Piano Technician
Longview, TX 75602
806-778-3962
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Original Message:
Sent: 07-09-2022 12:32
From: Scott Cole
Subject: very tight pin

I've got a little problem: I have a customer with a Steinway M. It was poorly restrung 30 years ago, but at this point I'm sure she doesn't want to pay for more work. Two pins, I think size 4, needed more torque, and took the opportunity to try and fix them while replacing two non-matching bass strings. I removed both pins, swabbed the inside of the holes with medium CA, and hammered them back in. One turned out well, the other is ridiculously tight, even after multiple tunings. I have a feeling the medium CA  is flexible enough to not wear in like the thin stuff. I can tune it, but I'm afraid one of these days I'm going to break the darn pin.

What are my options at this point? Remove the pin and try a smaller size? Ream the hole a bit, like with a gun-cleaning brush?
thanks!

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Scott Cole, RPT
rvpianotuner.com
Talent, OR
(541-601-9033
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My apologies for the typos. I INTENDED to say "reamer" and "reamers". 

I'm almost certain Pianotek still sells these and many times they can be just perfect for problematic issues such as this. However, in your particular case-the wire brush tool from Schaff would probably be my first choice. Pretty fast and easy to chuck it up in a battery drill & run it into the hole about 2 times at slow speed. Don't move in & out slowly-just a quick down then out. But turning slowly in the drill. Hope this helps. I've had several pretty strange situations over the years-mostly music store situations, etc. 

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Kevin Fortenberry
Registered Piano Technician
Longview, TX 75602
806-778-3962
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Original Message:
Sent: 07-10-2022 15:36
From: Kevin Fortenberry
Subject: very tight pin

Wow-sorry you're having this issue. I would probably remove the pin & either ream it with the correct size reamer or perhaps use one of the wire brush tools that Schaff makes just for the purpose of "deglazing" the hole. (I think Protek sells the readers. I'm pretty sure I have the 3/0 and the 4/0 readers. From past jobs.)

------------------------------
Kevin Fortenberry
Registered Piano Technician
Longview, TX 75602
806-778-3962

Original Message:
Sent: 07-09-2022 12:32
From: Scott Cole
Subject: very tight pin

I've got a little problem: I have a customer with a Steinway M. It was poorly restrung 30 years ago, but at this point I'm sure she doesn't want to pay for more work. Two pins, I think size 4, needed more torque, and took the opportunity to try and fix them while replacing two non-matching bass strings. I removed both pins, swabbed the inside of the holes with medium CA, and hammered them back in. One turned out well, the other is ridiculously tight, even after multiple tunings. I have a feeling the medium CA  is flexible enough to not wear in like the thin stuff. I can tune it, but I'm afraid one of these days I'm going to break the darn pin.

What are my options at this point? Remove the pin and try a smaller size? Ream the hole a bit, like with a gun-cleaning brush?
thanks!

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Scott Cole, RPT
rvpianotuner.com
Talent, OR
(541-601-9033
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Original Message:
Sent: 7/10/2022 3:37:00 PM
From: Kevin Fortenberry
Subject: RE: very tight pin

Wow-sorry you're having this issue. I would probably remove the pin & either ream it with the correct size reamer or perhaps use one of the wire brush tools that Schaff makes just for the purpose of "deglazing" the hole. (I think Protek sells the readers. I'm pretty sure I have the 3/0 and the 4/0 readers. From past jobs.)

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Kevin Fortenberry
Registered Piano Technician
Longview, TX 75602
806-778-3962
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Original Message:
Sent: 07-09-2022 12:32
From: Scott Cole
Subject: very tight pin

I've got a little problem: I have a customer with a Steinway M. It was poorly restrung 30 years ago, but at this point I'm sure she doesn't want to pay for more work. Two pins, I think size 4, needed more torque, and took the opportunity to try and fix them while replacing two non-matching bass strings. I removed both pins, swabbed the inside of the holes with medium CA, and hammered them back in. One turned out well, the other is ridiculously tight, even after multiple tunings. I have a feeling the medium CA  is flexible enough to not wear in like the thin stuff. I can tune it, but I'm afraid one of these days I'm going to break the darn pin.

What are my options at this point? Remove the pin and try a smaller size? Ream the hole a bit, like with a gun-cleaning brush?
thanks!

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Scott Cole, RPT
rvpianotuner.com
Talent, OR
(541-601-9033
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Ken, that actually sounds like it would be worth a try. Kevin

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Kevin Fortenberry
Registered Piano Technician
Longview, TX 75602
806-778-3962
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Original Message:
Sent: 07-11-2022 12:36
From: Kenneth Walkup
Subject: very tight pin

I'd try detaching the coil, then back the pin out two or three turns.  Chances are it will be much improved.

www.kenwalkup.com

www.historicalkeyboards.org

Original Message:
Sent: 7/10/2022 3:37:00 PM
From: Kevin Fortenberry
Subject: RE: very tight pin

Wow-sorry you're having this issue. I would probably remove the pin & either ream it with the correct size reamer or perhaps use one of the wire brush tools that Schaff makes just for the purpose of "deglazing" the hole. (I think Protek sells the readers. I'm pretty sure I have the 3/0 and the 4/0 readers. From past jobs.)

------------------------------
Kevin Fortenberry
Registered Piano Technician
Longview, TX 75602
806-778-3962

Original Message:
Sent: 07-09-2022 12:32
From: Scott Cole
Subject: very tight pin

I've got a little problem: I have a customer with a Steinway M. It was poorly restrung 30 years ago, but at this point I'm sure she doesn't want to pay for more work. Two pins, I think size 4, needed more torque, and took the opportunity to try and fix them while replacing two non-matching bass strings. I removed both pins, swabbed the inside of the holes with medium CA, and hammered them back in. One turned out well, the other is ridiculously tight, even after multiple tunings. I have a feeling the medium CA  is flexible enough to not wear in like the thin stuff. I can tune it, but I'm afraid one of these days I'm going to break the darn pin.

What are my options at this point? Remove the pin and try a smaller size? Ream the hole a bit, like with a gun-cleaning brush?
thanks!

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Scott Cole, RPT
rvpianotuner.com
Talent, OR
(541-601-9033
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Original Message:
Sent: 7/11/2022 12:57:00 PM
From: Kevin Fortenberry
Subject: RE: very tight pin

Ken, that actually sounds like it would be worth a try. Kevin

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Kevin Fortenberry
Registered Piano Technician
Longview, TX 75602
806-778-3962
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Original Message:
Sent: 07-11-2022 12:36
From: Kenneth Walkup
Subject: very tight pin

I'd try detaching the coil, then back the pin out two or three turns.  Chances are it will be much improved.

www.kenwalkup.com

www.historicalkeyboards.org

Original Message:
Sent: 7/10/2022 3:37:00 PM
From: Kevin Fortenberry
Subject: RE: very tight pin

Wow-sorry you're having this issue. I would probably remove the pin & either ream it with the correct size reamer or perhaps use one of the wire brush tools that Schaff makes just for the purpose of "deglazing" the hole. (I think Protek sells the readers. I'm pretty sure I have the 3/0 and the 4/0 readers. From past jobs.)

------------------------------
Kevin Fortenberry
Registered Piano Technician
Longview, TX 75602
806-778-3962

Original Message:
Sent: 07-09-2022 12:32
From: Scott Cole
Subject: very tight pin

I've got a little problem: I have a customer with a Steinway M. It was poorly restrung 30 years ago, but at this point I'm sure she doesn't want to pay for more work. Two pins, I think size 4, needed more torque, and took the opportunity to try and fix them while replacing two non-matching bass strings. I removed both pins, swabbed the inside of the holes with medium CA, and hammered them back in. One turned out well, the other is ridiculously tight, even after multiple tunings. I have a feeling the medium CA  is flexible enough to not wear in like the thin stuff. I can tune it, but I'm afraid one of these days I'm going to break the darn pin.

What are my options at this point? Remove the pin and try a smaller size? Ream the hole a bit, like with a gun-cleaning brush?
thanks!

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Scott Cole, RPT
rvpianotuner.com
Talent, OR
(541-601-9033
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