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  • 1.  Hearing protection

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 06-06-2018 13:13
    This is why I wear ear plugs in my car on the highway. Radio off, 65mph, typical rough Wisconsin highway.
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    Larry Messerly, RPT
    Bringing Harmony to Homes
    www.lacrossepianotuning.com
    ljmesserly@gmail.com
    928-899-7292
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  • 2.  RE: Hearing protection

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 06-06-2018 14:59
    Wow! Have not thought of this.





  • 3.  RE: Hearing protection

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 06-06-2018 15:34
    I have thought of this. Unfortunately it's illegal in California. You might want to check with your state laws before you pop a pair of earplugs in your ears. In California, one will lose their license if caught with earplugs in both ears, even possible jail time. It's not exactly a good thing to wear only one plug either; if you're pulled over, "sure you were wearing them in only one ear... why do you have two then?...."

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    Benjamin Sanchez
    Professional Piano Services
    (805)315-8050
    www.professional-piano-services.com
    BenPianoPro@comcast.net
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  • 4.  RE: Hearing protection

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 06-06-2018 15:55
    You mean that deaf people are not allowed to drive in California?

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    Willem "Wim" Blees, RPT
    Mililani, HI 96789
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  • 5.  RE: Hearing protection

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 06-06-2018 15:59
    Look at 27400 (d):  http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?lawCode=VEH&sectionNum=27400.

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    John Rhodes
    Vancouver WA
    360-721-0728
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  • 6.  RE: Hearing protection

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 06-06-2018 17:24
    Hi all,
    I've thought a lot about hearing protection and have invested quite a bit. One of the best apps for the iPhone is called SPLnFFT, and I was advised by an audiologist to use the A weighting.

    90 db sounds quite excessive in a car. I was recently in a Cessna 172, and was able to measure the sound pressure levels at about 90 db at full takeoff power for a 180 hp engine (most powerful available, I believe). It makes quite a racket.

    Recently, I invested in a set of in-ear noise-reducing headphones by Bose, the QC20. At $250, I consider them way overpriced, but they are apparently the best of the models out there. The reason I got them was actually for commercial flight: on my way to Westpac, I was stuck in a CRJ700 (those small, regional jets with tail-mounted engines) that for some reason happened to be an absolute screamer. I've been in several similar jets since then but that particular AA flight was horrific and I felt I was losing my hearing. The Bose headphones (which I've tried recently on similar commercial aircraft) work fairly well as long as the earpiece is fitted correctly. While they don't eliminate all noise, they do help with the really low droning and allow you listen to music or watch a movie in peace and quiet. Cabin announcements were easy to hear.

    The reason I mention them is that they appear to be quite safe in a car as well, and we have some very noisy patches of I5 in Oregon. While they do help with noise, they allow you to hear normal, higher frequencies such as sirens or voices (those outside your head as well as inside).
    While I can't speak to the legality of using them to drive, I do think they are safer than the musician's earplugs I use for tuning, which filter out everything equally. The Bose over-the-ear headphones would of course be more effective, but I wouldn't drive in them. I think the QC20s are a good compromise.

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    Scott Cole
    Talent OR
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  • 7.  RE: Hearing protection

    Posted 06-06-2018 21:53

    90 db sounds quite excessive in a car. I was recently in a Cessna 172, and was able to measure the sound pressure levels at about 90 db at full takeoff power for a 180 hp engine (most powerful available, I believe). It makes quite a racket.
    Scott Cole,  06-06-2018 17:24

    I also think 90 db is a bit much for a normal car driving down the highway. Unless one is driving a 4x4 with mud tires. Those things make a lot of outside noise when they pass me on the road. 

    What device was used to measure?

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    John Formsma, RPT
    New Albany MS
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  • 8.  RE: Hearing protection

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 06-06-2018 23:24
    Thanks, John, for confirming that ear protection is different than ear phones, which is what the law is trying to prevent. Having something in your ear so you CAN hear the environment around you is quite different than having earbuds inserted and playing too loud so as to drown out the environment around you. On the other hand, using your cell phone while driving, is also illegal, and I can't count the number of violators of BOTH laws that I see on the freeways here in LA every single day.

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    Geoff Sykes, RPT
    Los Angeles CA
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  • 9.  RE: Hearing protection

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 06-07-2018 10:36
    Not true, from the traffic law code

    (d) A person wearing personal hearing protectors in the form of earplugs or molds that are specifically designed to attenuate injurious noise levels. The plugs or molds shall be designed in a manner so as to not inhibit the wearer's ability to hear a siren or horn from an emergency vehicle or a horn from another motor vehicle.

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    David Love RPT
    www.davidlovepianos.com
    davidlovepianos@comcast.net
    415 407 8320
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  • 10.  RE: Hearing protection

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 06-06-2018 23:25
    Larry --

    What's the app?

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    Geoff Sykes, RPT
    Los Angeles CA
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  • 11.  RE: Hearing protection

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 06-07-2018 08:29
    Starkey sond check

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    Larry Messerly, RPT
    Bringing Harmony to Homes
    www.lacrossepianotuning.com
    ljmesserly@gmail.com
    928-899-7292
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  • 12.  RE: Hearing protection

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 06-07-2018 09:59
    Just wanted to add that the Bose QC20 does not need to be plugged into anything to function. You just switch them on.

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    Scott Cole
    Talent OR
    541-601-9033
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  • 13.  RE: Hearing protection

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 06-07-2018 10:20
    When I was flying monthly they were a great investment. I sometimes also add ear plugs.

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    Larry Messerly, RPT
    Bringing Harmony to Homes
    www.lacrossepianotuning.com
    ljmesserly@gmail.com
    928-899-7292
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