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    RE: Voicing Kit

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    Thanks Andrew. I just saw the micro finishing paper this morning, but thought little of it. I'll be sure to reconsider. As far as making my own tools, I'm not quite sure how to attach the needles to my wooden handles, so I'll probably end up purchasing ...

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    RE: Paper Punching Order

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    Don't use more than two of the same thickness of paper punchings. Conduct your own experiment on the compressibility of a stack of thin paper punchings as opposed to a thick card punching. ------------------------------ Regards, Jon Page ------------------------------

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    RE: Voicing Kit

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    Andrew's post is excellent and covers the gamot for getting started pretty well.  Also want to highly recommend something like the Coleman "sugar-coating" voicer.  Will try to attach images. ------------------------------ [Kevin] [Fortenberry] [RPT] ...

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    RE: Voicing Kit

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    Hello Benjamin, You could purchase a complete voicing kit from a company like Fugebauer which has an assortment of voicing needles, paddles etc. Or if you want to just make one, I would recommend two voicing tools; one that has three needles with #6 ...

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    Chris, I have not conducted an A/B (control) experiment, but here is shat I CAN share with you from personal experience. As you apparently have read, we do "consolidate and hierarchicalize" the paper punchings for both balance rail and front rail key ...

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    All- There was a thread or a portion of one recently that covered this in some detail and for the life of me I can't find it. There were pictures and discussion of using a Bridgeport to accomplish this, Any help appreciated. I will continue this thread ...

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    Re long levers, I had Charles Faulk make me a 15-1/4" with a 10deg head. I started thinking about long levers coming off of a 24" chipping lever, my 4 iron, made out of a busted golf club. After using that, I thought long levers had potential, as long ...

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    Decorative Hale Hammer... priceless ------------------------------ Benjamin Sloane Cincinnati OH 513-257-8480 ------------------------------

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    I've heard rumors of that, but never experienced it. I certainly don't adhere to this rule. The only thing I can tell you is that pianos that I worked on 20 years ago still have level keys. The only fast rule I follow is to have the paper/cardboard ...

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    Voicing Kit

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    Hello all, I'm trying to put together my first voicing kit. Was just curious what you all would consider to be the "essential" tools, which are beneficial to have, and which are just "cool extras."  Thanks ------------------------------ Benjamin Sanchez ...

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    Roommate hunt!

    Looking for a lady or two to share a room for the convention! I'll be there Sunday-Saturday. ------------------------------ Hannah Beckett Wilmington NC 910-231-3595 ------------------------------

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    Why let the customer decide your price? Give them an estimate of what you would charge to fix it right with new bridge caps. ------Original Message------ I recently came across a piano that had a continuous crack running down the entire length ...

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    Cracked bridge

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    I recently came across a piano that had a continuous crack running down the entire length of the treble bridge. The piano is a 1913 Kimball parlor grand, currently on display at a local museum. The owners want to get it fixed up, but have a limited budget. ...

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    Ever experiment with extension tuning levers? I use an obsolete Apsco and an ancient Hale tuning hammer. I am accustomed to the extra weight and don't choke up to move from pin to pin.  I think a myth is that extension levers are for spacing, or chipping ...

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    It was Ken Amend in Oregon that was selling them 12 years ago, just sent him an email.  I found him again just by looking in the PTG Directory, Portland chapter, and recognized the name.  I'm amazed everyone doesn't have one.  I use it all the time, and ...

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    Thanks, Patrick, but I called Joe and he's never heard of it.  I think it used to be advertised in the classified section of the Journal a decade or two ago. ------------------------------ Paul Larudee El Cerrito CA 510-236-5338 ------------------------------

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    Does it really matter? This has been coming up more often over the years. Is there any documented proof that using e.g. four .010 punchings is more squishy than a single .040 card?  And does it matter if the thicker card is at the bottom and they progressively ...

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    Joe Goss, Mother Goose Tools ------------------------------ Patrick Draine Billerica MA 978-663-9690 ------------------------------

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    Alan Excellent point. And it's not only pieces of our lives, but wear and tear on our bodies and our hearing. Granted too, clients are handing us a piece of their lives when they write a check. I was referring to what the market will bear, but if ...

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    "A couple of the keys aren't going down when I press them." said the client when I arrived. Soon they were working when I removed the 1881 silver dollar from under the key backs and handed it to the client. "Oh, you can keep that as your tip today", she ...

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    Someone had dumped this old Upright by a country roadside so I opened it up, looking for useful parts like key ivories and found a diamond engagement ring . . . . so I looked further and found a gold wedding ring . . . . there must be a story behind ...

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    Here is one I tuned in the Loire Valley, France using a Papps mute. It came out fine and was used in the wedding reception. Bob Highfield ------Original Message------ Larry, I currently do not own such a mute but do believe initially ...

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    I once had to pull the kick plate off of an old upright I was servicing and found a stash of Stock Certificates. I pointed this out to the owners and they commented that "they had forgotten that they had put them there" Ken Gerler ...

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    RE: GOLD in The Piano

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    Bogus  on the lunch. I just lost my appetite. It might be a good idea to start looking at the back of uprights flush with the wall in case there is some pirate bootie stashed between the beams. ------------------------------ James Kelly Pawleys Island ...

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    Over the years I have found a couple of Indian Head pennies and a Liberty nickle.  Value?  Maybe a couple of dollars ------------------------------ Clarence Zeches Piano Service Enterprise School of Technology Toccoa GA 706-886-4035 ------------------------------

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    Sure, Larry, it's easy. Just take a WHOLE LOT of lead to a metal recycler, take the proceeds, and buy a TINY piece of gold. Money, the alchemist's most powerful tool ... turns lots of things to other things. ------------------------------ Susan Kline ...

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    David -- the Mexican lunch. It was on top of the bass dampers and hammers of a piano in a Roman Catholic parish hall in California, and I could see that it had started in life as a taco. Did anyone tell you back when you started to learn tuning that ...

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    It was one that fit into my electric screwdriver, and I got it from a tech in Oregon or Washington, as I recall.  It had a socket that would take any combination tool.  Anyone know where I can get one? ------------------------------ Paul Larudee El Cerrito ...

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    Per Sam Son, the affected pianos--Young Chang, Wurlitzer, Weber, Knabe, Cline, and PianoDisc PD series--were made by Young Chang from 1990 to 1998, with serial numbers between 050000 and 118750. I assume those are approximate. ------------------------------ ...

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    L hey John, can you send me a pic of the lyre that you have? ------------------------------ Arlin Hall Austin TX 512-801-1583 ------------------------------

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    I do have several pics I will upload now. I have heard from Baldwin/Wurlitzer and they do not have any of these parts. ------------------------------ Arlin Hall Austin TX 512-801-1583 ------------------------------

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    Now guys, everyone knows that lead can be turned into gold.  There's probably a youtube video of the process. ------------------------------ Larry Fisher Owner, Chief Grunt, Head Hosehead Vancouver WA 360-256-2999 ------------------------------

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    Bill,  New butts and whippens or complete (as in WNG) action? It seems to me that if you make a mock up with the same rake angle and all, you can check first to see if the original hammer bore comes out with 1.75" strike distance. If not, make adjustments ...

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    If you go to my website I have a picture of an adjustable action model that I made about five years ago.  I fashioned it from a picture of a model from Bruce Clark.  The key is totally adjustable, but it is too flexible for dynamic playing.  I Usually ...

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    I am installing a new action in an upright piano and I'm wondering if there is a procedure for determining the length of the hammers.  I've kept samples of the originals which I can duplicate, but I don't always trust what's there.  I also slightly changed ...

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    Linda - Maybe just bad color rendering, but, in the photo,  they sort of look, at least, 'golden'. Susan - What gave it away as Mexican? ------------------------------ David Skolnik Hastings-on-Hudson NY 914-231-7565 ------------------------------

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    I found mouse bones and someone's very old Mexican lunch. ------------------------------ Susan Kline Philomath, Oregon ------------------------------

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    You were lucky - all I ever found was roaches!  ...no, that's not true:  once it was beetle larvae. ------------------------------ Linda Scott, RPT Portland, OR 503-231-9732 ------------------------------

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    Hi, Benjamin I just went to Google and used the satellite view. We just called "Bibbins" the conservatory, and Robertson we called Robertson. Google misplaced the Warner Concert Hall name. I see there are other buildings there. Really sorry they trashed ...

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    Susan, You are my guiding light. I thought Michael Gamble would be. Always check out attached files. But nevertheless some very interesting stories Michael, thank you. Glad he was mistaken, I knew nothing of the make, great history. Glad the conversation ...

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    All I ever found was lead ------------------------------ Benjamin Sloane Cincinnati OH 513-257-8480 ------------------------------

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    A year from now it'll tuner gets nothing. ------Original Message------ Here's a lucky tuner who found 13 lbs of gold coins in an old upright.  https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/who-stashed-gold-inside-a-british-piano-its-a-mystery/2017/04/20/5db83efc-25cd-11e7-928e-3624539060e8_story.html?utm_term=.8257e0426a62 ...

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    Hi Jon: In the picture that comes up when you click on my link, you see only a located capstan.  However, if you follow this link,  http://www.jmeworksllc.com/adjustable-grand-action-model.html and scroll down the page, you will see exactly what you ...

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    Ok ok corrected.  All these piano dealers fueling dying local orchestras with so-called leased pianas for free. Why can't this happen for internationally known pop artists? Why not get on the ship that sails? ------------------------------ Benjamin Sloane ...

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    RE: Here's a Beauty

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    You'll like this, then. The Abbey Road crossing Live Cam. With audio. https://www.abbeyroad.com/crossing  Can you spot the tourists? Thanks to all for the spelling corrections. I blame the built in spell checker for allowing them to pass. <-grin-> ...

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    RE: ?

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    I have a tool just like that, except that it doesn't have a collet on it. 20 years ago, Bruce Ziesmer from the Appleton, Wisconsin chapter showed us the tool, and so my brother made me one out of quarter - inch steel rod. It was supposed to have multiple ...

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    It's lacking a vital adjustment component to alter Key Ratio: a moveable capstan. The balance rail doesn't seem to alter position relative to the front rail or capstan, unless there is a slot in stead of a b/r hole but the key button doesn't suggest this. ...

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    Someone else use to make these models years ago, but i can't think of their name at the moment. There may be a youtube video. I would suggest that making it out of plywood might not be the best choice for a precision tool. Maybe a high grade plastic ...

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    Geoff, This is a clip from a documentary Paul did about 'es foray into orchestration in which he discusses his relative ignorance of formal notation, and how he composes for orchestra with a midi keyboard, not pen, paper, and staff https://youtu.be/aNauNWi6drQ ...