Wim,
I ain't even shopping, just scanned current Schaff price list. I think the original post was edited and did not include Tokiwa wippens, but Tokiwa shanks and flanges, not wippens. Even if you throw in the wippens, with shanks and flanges, and assuming you put the heavier Imagedawa hammers on you get a total of $1,470.42
Tokiwa wippens $795.84
Imagedawa hammers $240 or $250
Tokiwa Shanks & Flanges 424.58
The lighter Imagedawas are -10 dollars, the obvious choice for the O is lower.
A lot of work is being suggested for a verdigris problem that is by no means required. Depending on the venue, and whether or not verdigris is a problem beyond the flanges for the hammer shank, I would consider just replacing hammers, shanks, and flanges. How noisy are the wippens? A lot of the other work not only creates more cost in parts but in labor. Beyond key rebushing, there is not necessarily a whole lot more that needs redone if the wear is from simply using the piano. I have no price on that, I cut my own key bushing felt which makes the cost of felt negligible. I would need to see it.
If you replace key end felt, you will not only need to regulate the action, but the dampers, dampers with worn out felt. What a pain. I would never replace key end felt without also repacing damper tray lifter felt and damper felts. If the damper wires are damaged, good luck resetting damper timing.
I know some people will say what I suggest is not a complete rebuild. Well, I never took an old car to a mechanic and asked for a complete rebuild. I just wanted the car to work again.
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Benjamin Sloane
Cincinnati OH
513-257-8480
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Original Message:
Sent: 09-21-2017 13:10
From: Willem Blees
Subject: Thoughts on a Steinway action rebuild?
Benjamin said: What do you mean, "Selling the parts wholesale?" Are you considering just the parts mentioned, -restring, -damper work? How carefully did you read this Dave? Hammers, shanks and flanges? That's it? For $2,400?
Is this a Hawaiian thing, I wouldn't understand?
Benjamin. He's replacing h/s/f and wippens, plus other parts. Even those off brand parts are going to cost close to that.
In Hawaii I do need to add at least $25 - $50 for shipping. A box of keys sent to the mainland for recovering is $85.
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Willem "Wim" Blees, RPT
Mililani, HI 96789
Original Message:
Sent: 09-21-2017 05:13
From: Benjamin Sloane
Subject: Thoughts on a Steinway action rebuild?
The parts list at $2,400 keeps changing. I'm done with this discussion. Sorry for editing to account for the rapidly changing prices on parts, I don't do that mich action work.
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Benjamin Sloane
Cincinnati OH
513-257-8480
Original Message:
Sent: 09-21-2017 04:21
From: Willem Blees
Subject: Thoughts on a Steinway action rebuild?
The rebuilder is basically selling the parts for wholesale, and he's not even buying good quality parts. With what David said, I would look around for another rebuilder. It might be worth it to you to take the action to David. Ask him what he would charge for a job like that, including everything he is recommending. You will need to do in piano final regulating, but maybe David is willing to give you advice on that. (I hope you're OK with that, David).
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Willem "Wim" Blees, RPT
Mililani, HI 96789
Original Message:
Sent: 09-20-2017 23:55
From: Scott Cole
Subject: Thoughts on a Steinway action rebuild?
Hi all,
I have a friend/customer with a 1911 Model O Steinway. It has bad verdigris, and he's gotten an estimate for an action rebuild from a local rebuilder (I'm not going to attempt this). No finish work, just action.
The rebuilder has quoted $4900, with $2500 labor, $2400 parts. Tokiwa shanks and flanges, Imadegawa hammers.
No damper work. No restring. He has no plans to sell the piano.
His question is whether the Tokiwa parts and Imadegawa hammers are good choices. Are there better hammers for this piano? I'm not sure he has a particular sound in mind. How do the parts compare to Renner, or the hammers to Abel or others? I'm assuming no one will talk him into Steinway parts...
Thanks,
Scott
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