Pianotech

  • 1.  Tro-Fex Felt Opitmizer

    Posted 02-22-2012 15:06
    List,
    Does anyone have any experience with this product Kluge?
    They say it should not be used if the bush key has been glued with water-sensitive adhesives.
    The problem is that, as far as I know, all adhesives used there are sensitive to water.
    Thanks for any reply
    Motta 
    http://www.klaviaturen.de/Download/Tro-Fex-Ueberblick.pdf 
    http://www.klaviaturen.de/Download/Tro-Fex-Anwendung.pdf 


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    Francisco Motta
    Atelier de Pianos Prof. Motta
    Belo Horizonte
    54 31 34255694
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  • 2.  RE:Tro-Fex Felt Opitmizer

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 02-23-2012 11:00
    Dear Motta,

    Sounds a lot like Profelt from Pianotek.   

    http://www.pianoteksupply.com/assets/pdf/instructions/VS%20Profelt%20Article.pdf

    I'm not sure if pianotek recommends against using their product with bushings glued with hide glue.

    Try testing for effect.

    Hope this helps,

    David Stanwood

    Here's a google translate from the Kluge site you provided:

    Tro-Fex.  The felt-Optimizer. Specially developed "naturally" Garnier cloth with extremely high density, and the new dry-Fex, the felt-Optimizer gives the best toppings, the Kluge keyboards could ever offer.
    In close cooperation with our suppliers, all leading to your Area, we have developed our new Garnier method exclusively.   In addition to exhaustive tests on our test systems were the developments by accompanied by independent institutes and documented. In addition, at one of the world's largest music schools in the "hard" is used for several years with Successfully demonstrated.  The "real" benefits: -reduced frictional resistance between Garnier and cloth pin, thereby feel more comfortable
    -increased protection from moisture, thus the best possible protection againstjamming key Noise reduction at the front and balance rail pin  -very accurate setting of the front - and Bäckchengarnierung. Since January 2009, almost all the major piano manufacturers have begun to to provide us with specific keyboards with the new Garnier system be with overwhelming success.  Tro-Fex is thus a quality mark for tested quality, Safety and reliability.  Now we offer dry-Fex, the optimizer also felt all the piano makers for their own use. Talk to your fellow piano manufacturers, which already Have had experiences with our product, it is worth it.   Our "best" garnish

    Application and results:
    1 drop dry-Fex with a pipette to enter the Garnier cloth, a few seconds to act
    . can Then put a stamp in the Garnier commercial and garnish
    dry for at least 8 hours.
    After the Garnier Temple will be removed.
    After the felt is dry, has the following advantages:
    -he is protected from moisture
    -he was treated with a light lubricant
    the play-pen at the front and on the balance beam can be adjusted veryaccurately pin
    will 
    Please note:
    Tro-Fex is only suitable for cloth, the eingeleimtwerden with waterproof glue.
    Time:
    The complete treatment of a keyboard with a dry-Fex takes about 45 minutes.
    distribution:
    The felt-Optimizer can be ordered directly from us, but also for all piano partsdealers
    in Germany (Jahn, Baumgartel, Meyne).
    cost:
    The keyboard costs are around € 7-8 without wages. Due to the significant Reduce the impression of a piano keyboard results in no additional effort.
    Other developments:  
    To perform at private customers faster treatment can we offer brass plugs that can be heated and the drying process considerably reduce  risk
    Notes:
    Keep away from children avoid eye contact. If something gets in your eyes,rinse thoroughly with water
    . Rinse Do not breathe spray. Repeated skin contact may cause irritation.
    Kluge keyboards GmbH Old Powder Mill 20 42855 Remscheid
    Tel: 02191 -690280 Fax: 02191 -6902818
    info@kluge-klaviaturen.de www.kluge-klaviaturen.de




  • 3.  RE:Tro-Fex Felt Opitmizer

    Posted 02-23-2012 13:28

    Thanks for the replies.
    This mail-list does not discriminate against anyone, and we have the opportunity to speak with great technicians of the world, on various subjects.

    It is decisive:
      "Other Developments:
    To perform at private customers faster treatment Can We offer brass plugs ThatCan Be heated and the drying process considerably Reduce risk "

    I hope this can help me, an important institution which I serve, where there are 56pianos (12 Steinways) and no financial resources.

    Sincerely,
      Motta 

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    Francisco Motta
    Atelier de Pianos Prof. Motta
    Belo Horizonte
    54 31 34255694
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  • 4.  RE:Tro-Fex Felt Opitmizer

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 02-23-2012 12:24
    No experience with the product. The warning is probably about hot hide glue. It's likely that they consider PVA glues to be "water resitant."
     
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    Mario Igrec
    http://www.pianosinsideout.com
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