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I would like to suggest that it may be a hardware, or rather a device issue and not a software issue. I have the same version of Veritune running on two different, and yes, old, iPod Touch devices. Both are set up identically. When testing the differences, ...

You may know all this already but... An ETD or even an aural tuner can come up with dramatically different results in the very low bass depending on which partials we give preference to. The greater the inharmonicity the more ambiguous it gets -- and ...

I've been using Pianoscope for about 2 years, previously I also used an Accutuner. The pitch raise feature in Pianoscope on large pitch raises doesn't seem to work so well (more than 20 cents), but less than that seems to work quite well. When using ...

I use Cybertuner. I find occasionally that it incorrectly reads the notes below A1 and I tune them quite a bit sharp from what the display wants me to do. Or it's just the monochords. This happens on a few makes of grands - for some reason not in verticals, ...

It's over a year later, but I wanted to reply because I was experiencing the same apparent inconsistencies, sometimes, and explored it further. What I've found is that the KMD is insanely consistent, but the piano action is not. If I take an initial ...

Timothy I use an ETD, too, SAT, but I use it as a tool to get me to where I want to be. You did the right thing. Use your Scope to get you in the ballpark but then use your ears as the final judge. Not only in the bass, but for the whole piano. ...

How far out was the piano to begin with? I'm regularly performing second tuning after pitch raise using Pianoscope (balance setting). I consistently see the bass needing more work than tenor/treble. I've started overpulling farther than its recommended ...

Working on a Yamaha GH-1 grand last week. Measured inharmonicity using pianoscope app. Treble tuned just fine, but the bass was off by 5-10 cents. Had to tune the bass considerably "tighter" (i.e. more sharp) than indicated by the app to get pure octaves ...

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Thanks Dean for the info about North Bennet Street accepting GI benefits. I had told, and in fact, always tell anyone asking about becoming a piano tech, about NBSS. After your post, I looked into it on their website, and it does seem encouraging. It ...

My recommendation is to consider North Bennet Street School. I know they take the GI bill money - that will probably cover most or all of the cost. That's the best training around if he can afford a year. -Dean http://www.cybertuner.com ...

I'm sorry. It may be the heat getting to me, but this has too many moveable parts. He's a marine in NY; you're in Illinois. You're "in discussion" with him. ? Somehow, he knows that he wants to use his military benefit to learn to become a piano tuner. ...

True point, but he really is a complete beginner at this point though he can read and play music. If there is a NEECSO on Spring 2027, that might be better timed. One thing about SkillBridge is that for the entire time of training they are considered ...

If he can get away for a few days, he'd have a great time attending the PTG Convention-Institute in Arlington VA July 22-25 2026 . ------------------------------ Patrick Draine RPT Billerica MA (978) 663-9690 ------------------------------

Hi all- I am in discussion with a Marine based in Ft Drum, NY. He comes out of service next year, end of April, and would like to explore being a piano tech. He can study with me at NIU beginning in May 2027 through a program called SkillBridge, run by ...

Hi Brad, I'd start by focusing on the coverage you actually need-Inland Marine, CCC, E&O, etc., and shop accordingly. Many programs, including PLC, are more limited than they appear and vary by state. After several years with PLC, it wasn't the right ...

I have to respectfully disagree that the La Petite grands are untunable across the board. I have four of them in my database. Two tuned normally and without any issues. One I was never able to figure out what was going on with it or get it to hold for ...

David, I agree, I feel the Dutro dolly is the most universal dolly, although I remove the carpet and replace it with Antislip stair covering – McMaster sells it in various forms. The problem with the carpet is that it slips easily as you mention, especially ...

The original PTG Home Office was in Seattle. PLC was nearby, and became a sponsor of PTG. As any insurance broker will do, they researched what coverages were available to fill the needs of piano technicians. Insurance is regulated by each state. Therefore, ...

Mr. Werner, I have had some Kimballs from the time period of the La Petite that had loose or weak hitch pins. You might want to see if any of them are starting to lean forward. That would make a note go flat pretty fast. In any case the instrument has ...

Eric, Frustrating...yes! Next time you get a chance, get under the pinblock with a mirror and look at the block/flange fit. If you find a nice gap there, take a photo of it with your phone cam and use it in a discussion of "how good pianos are ...

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Could be a myriad of causes and probably not just one. Poorly fitted pinblock, bridge issues, ribs/soundboard, string rendering problems, etc. Unfortunately, you now own this problem. a candid but diplomatic discussion with the owner may be the ...

Tim That would be entirely possible. That, along with weak construction, sloppy workmanship, and inferior products. When they first came out, a Gospel church bought one, excited that they finally had a "grand" piano for their sanctuary, ...

I'm sure that there is a logical reason to the stability issue but I discovered the other day that the French refer to baby grands such as this as Crapauds Best wishes David P -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - David ...

It is a Dutro 1350. Available from several online vendors. I add some rubber grip to the top of the carpet. ------------------------------ David Stocker, RPT Olympia WA ------------------------------

I wonder if the pinblock is not mated well to the plate flange, sometimes it can shift from one side to the other slightly. ------------------------------ Tim Foster RPT New Oxford PA (470) 231-6074 ------------------------------

Hi Eric: Is there A/C in the house? Open doors/windows? I always blame the temperature fluctuation if my piano is drifting while I'm tuning. Of course, you know the other things, like a cracked plate, etc. If the angle down from the tuning pins ...

Those pianos were made as decorator pieces. I think many were used by realtors for staging in new home developments. ------------------------------ Larry Messerly, RPT Bringing Harmony to Homes www.lacrossepianotuning.com ljmesserly@gmail.com 928-899-7292 ...

Eric You’ve got a LaPetit grand. You’ll never get it to stay on tune. No one does. Those pianos were not made well to begin with. It’s the nature of the beast. Do the best you can and walk away. Wim. Sent from my iPhone

Hello all, I pitch raised and tuned an old Kimball baby grand today. It was tiny, looked less than 5 ft long and had sort of a french provincial case style. It was about 11 cents low, and I tightened all of the plate bolts before commencing. The tuning ...

I replace agraffes everything I re-string. Except for Grey pianos. Chris. ------------------------------ Chernobieff Piano Restorations chrisppff@gmail.com Youtube@chernobieffpiano 865-986-7720 (text only please) ------------------------------

Hi David, what is the 4-wheel fixed dolly you use? Sorry, I should have written it down in your class... ------------------------------ Joel Gamble Eastsound WA (425) 773-2961 ------------------------------

I found a roommate. Thank you for reaching out ------------------------------ Benjamin Siu San Jose CA (949) 702-1809 ------------------------------

Dear Colleagues ​Unequal temperament is really vital: electronic keyboards can do most of what equal temperament tuners do and as a result of upcoming students learning the piano learning on keyboards rather than real instruments, everyone who ...

The last time I bought full coverage like you're describing, I wound up buying it from a friend of mine who was a full-service insurance agent. He was able to find companies that insured my tools, my customers' possessions, liability, etc. Talk with your ...

With the stress these things are under I'm astounded that they don't break more often. I agree with Parker that even if they "look" okay, replacement is in order. I'm replacing them on a 1980 Kawai. Peter Grey Piano Doctor ------------------------------ ...

Hi everyone, I'm reviving this thread. There's several threads about insurance on the PTG forum, some more recent than others. The PTG used to (and maybe still does) recommend PLC insurance, but the company seems to be a shadow of what it used to be. ...

Alan What I have been told is that the people, or maybe just one man, who installed the agraffs, instead of taking one out to put in a washer or spacer to straighten it out, cranked the thing down, causing a slight tear in the shaft, or at most, ...

Wim, Maybe that one broken agraffe was an isolated case, and maybe it isn't. As David Hughes mentioned, the agraffes themselves in the '60s and '70s were made more poorly, particularly with regard to the drilling. The agraffes from the '20s and ...

I had to replace C1 agraff on a 1930's vintage M. I told the customer about the possibility of more breaking, citing the problem with the pianos from back then. Then. I will assure her that her piano is not one of the ones with this problem, and hopefully ...

Isaac Sadigursky gave me the years a long time ago. I can't find my reference right now but I'll let you know if I can. The years were, roughly, 1915-1920. The problem was that the agraffe stems were not threaded all the way to the shoulder so the installer ...

That's what I needed. Thanks David

Wim, The early- and mid-1920s. David G. Hughes, RPT Baltimore Chapter ------------------------------ David Hughes RPT Vintage Case Parts Glyndon MD (443) 522-2201 ------------------------------

Ive been told the 70s were bad. Mine confirmed it. I would extend that at least into the 60's. Peter Grey Piano Doctor ------------------------------ Peter Grey Stratham NH (603) 686-2395 pianodoctor57@gmail.com ------------------------------

Again, the question is not whether agraffs should be replaced after 50 or 60 years. It's about a period of time in the history of Steinway where agraffs were compromised.

Considering that the V-bar should be dressed at the same interval suggests replacement of agraffes too. I recently did it on a 1970 L and it REALLY needed it. Peter Grey Piano Doctor ------------------------------ Peter Grey Stratham NH (603) ...

Parker I don't necessarily agree with you on replacing them after 50 years, but I've experienced Steinways in the past that were made in the '20 and '30 with significant agraff breakage. I just can't remember the exact dates. Wim

No particular year that I am aware of. Age and amount of use matters. Agraffes over 50 years old should be replaced. Also pianos from late 50's to early 80's. ------------------------------ Parker Leigh RPT Winchester VA (540) 722-3865 ---------- ...

What years/serial numbers, did Steinway have a problem with their agraffs? ------------------------------ Willem "Wim" Blees, RPT St. Augustine, FL 32095 Wim@Tnrwim.com ------------------------------