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  • 1.  Simon and Garfunkel

    Posted 06-27-2009 22:30
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    From "Brian Wilson" <pianocare2@bigpond.com>

Jude
Well you have caught me out. Yes, I am only a part time technician who needs
more training to understand the basics of piano technology. I thought
levelling keys had nothing to do with scaling of a piano. Now where do I
find the book that tells me where to rescale a B model whilst discussing key
levelling. 
The regulation and hammer hanging being out of my expected scope. Thank you
for lowering yourself to an insult over your opinion of my work. 
I am in a minority group as I believe that it is not proper to bag a piano
over a chat page. This list would be huge if we all complained about
instruments we see every day. Well every few days for me. I hope that if
this piano was another brand it too would be bagged in an open forum.
As I said, the promoters of the concert would not be happy with the
comments. I was asked by a technician what the best piano in the world. I
tried to give an intelligent and diplomatic answer. He said the best piano
was the one you are working on right now.
I attach a photo of a piano in which I have little support in my comments of
this repair. I said it was a disgrace. So according to others like yourself
who tell me that I don't know sh_t from clay, that this standard of work is
ok.
Thank you but I like to be in the minority.
Now to email other technicians and manufacturers around the world that they
better close up and do something else than piano work.
But wait, there are more photos.....
Regards
Brian


  • 2.  Simon and Garfunkel

    Posted 06-28-2009 09:05 
    From "Jude Reveley \(Absolute Piano\)" <juderev@verizon.net>

Brian,

I am sorry to have offended you. I chose my words quite poorly so allow me 
to restate. By "out of the scope of your expected work," I meant that the 
time allotted for concert work is seldon enough for addressing any of the 
issues to which Ron O. was referring (ie hammer hanging, regulation and 
certainly scaling). So in a sense I was actually defending you. It was not a 
comment on the scope of your skills.

As for the post title of key levelling, the threads often turn into another 
subject without a title change. Just like these posts have nothing to do 
with Simon nor Garfunkle.

In our area, we are finding more artists having their keyboard tech or 
someone involved with the backline that is already on tour handle piano 
repairs. Diplomacy is one thing, handling the psycology of the artist during 
the gig is another, but I have absolutely no problem with Ron O. bringing 
some attention to the bottoming standard of these most representative 
instruments.

 Respectfully,

Jude Reveley, RPT
Absolute Piano Restoration, LLC
www.absolute-piano.com



    
                                                
    
					
                                                    

        
                                                
				
    
                                                
    
                                                    
                                                        
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  • 3.  Simon and Garfunkel: My reply

    Posted 06-29-2009 08:18 
    From "Brian Wilson" <pianocare2@bigpond.com>

Hi All
After I received Jude's email, I re read it several times. I then sent the
complete series to technicians, friends and professional acquaintances not
only in Australia but abroad. I was surprised by the replies that I received
that were contrary to your own thoughts. All replies were that the comments
were rude. So you were a little surprised by my answer. Yes, I was a little
angry probably best described as "poco agitato".
However my reply was not in anger, it was pure and simple sarcasm. I wrote
what I thought. I knew that my post would be read as a terse reply.
 Was I offended by the post? No, I didn't because taking offence is becoming
a victim of others. I don't let that emotion worry me. Was I hypersensitive
or defensive?  The fact the suggestion being made is evidence of other
mindsets and internal programs, not mine. We are all entitled to our own
opinions, are we not, without it becoming something that someone else
constructs through an inaccurate evaluation?
I have received some impolite posts, and I accept that being part of this
group, however when I break your self imposed boundaries, that is
unacceptable?
I have also received some private emails and this list has also provided
that Jude is a decent man, and I accept that on this list's recommendations.

I also apologise for the blanked out profanity. I consider it impolite to
others who may not appreciate this language.
By the way, I have tried to write this in a form of English that is without
any local expressions, so that there is no misunderstanding. 
Regards
Brian Wilson


    
                                                
    
					
                                                    

        
                                                
				
    
                                                
    
                                                    
                                                        
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  • 4.  Simon and Garfunkel: My reply

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 06-29-2009 08:55 
    From Don <pianotuna@accesscomm.ca>

Hi Brian,

Perhaps you need to develop a thicker skin. I'm sure you have, as a child,
played the game where a message is sent around a circle from one person to
the next by whispering in the next persons ear. It almost never bears any
relationship to the original thought that was being expressed. 

Your forwarding messages to others who are not on the list means the
information was presented "out of context". That doesn't give the reader
any clue at all what has been happening, so no wonder they though it rude.

Jude, true to his nature, has apologized. That would be a good example for
everyone to follow.

Email listservs have little place for sarcasm. There are no clues to true
meaning besides the print. It only leads to hard feelings on all sides.

Regards,
Don Rose, B.Mus., A.M.U.S., A.MUS., R.P.T.
Non calor sed umor est qui nobis incommodat

mailto:pianotuna@yahoo.com	http://us.geocities.com/drpt1948/

3004 Grant Rd. REGINA, SK, S4S 5G7
306-539-0716


  • 5.  Simon and Garfunkel

    Posted 06-28-2009 09:39 
    From "William Truitt" <surfdog@metrocast.net>

Dear Brian:

I have re-read Jude Reveley's post after reading your reply below.  As best
I can gather from this distance, you seem to be a first rate and well
qualified concert technician.  But I think you are being hypersensitive and
reading things into Jude's comments that are simply not there and are not
even implied. 

While Jude's use of language could perhaps have been more precisely framed,
I don't think he was trying to insult you or make an aspersion as to the
level of your abilities.  When he speaks of "your expected scope", I think
he means "your" in the plural sense, as including all piano technicians
(including you), who find themselves on a concert stage with a lot to do and
not enough time - and not you in the specific sense. I have the pleasure of
knowing Jude personally and, if he has a mean bone in his body, I haven't
seen it.  It's just not in his character to deliberately insult others in a
public forum. So I was surprised by the depth of your reaction. 

If you continue to participate in the forum (and I hope you will), you will
find that what started out as one topic can evolve and mutate into another
as the thread proceeds, and that this happens regularly. So Ron is hardly
the only one amongst us who leads or follows the thread down another path.
Most of us are guilty of that sin at one time or another. And none of us are
talking about Simon and Garfunkel either, are we?  :-) 

It is your policy to "not bag a piano over a chat page".  Fair enough.  And
you believe that others should likewise restrain themselves.  Also, fair
enough.  But, alas, I don't think it is quite that simple.  It is certainly
appropriate to comment on the condition of a piano, we do it all the time on
this forum.  When does a comment become a complaint?  Should we never
complain about the condition of a piano, or are there times when it is
appropriately topical on a technical forum such as this?   

I don't think that you "don't know shit from clay", and I have trouble
thinking of anyone on this forum who does think that.

I also think it is important for each of us to separate challenges in the
arena of ideas from attacks on persons.  This forum works best when we
confine our debate to the merits of ideas and avoid giving offense to the
other person.  That involves all of us endeavoring to craft intelligent and
diplomatic responses.  And it involves careful reading (and rereading) by
the receiver of such comments, so as to not reply in haste and
misunderstanding.  Sometimes we take offense where none was given.  

So I say, lighten up, Brian.  It's not that bad, really.

Respectfully yours, 

Will Truitt   








    
                                                
    
					
                                                    

        
                                                
				
    
                                                
    
                                                    
                                                        
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  • 6.  Simon and Garfunkel

    Posted 06-28-2009 10:25 
    From "CHARLES BECKER" <cbeckercpt@verizon.net>

What Will said.

    
                                                
    
					
                                                    

        
                                                
				
    
                                                
    
                                                    
                                                        
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