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From Dave Davis <dave@davispiano.com>

Here is an article about two of my favorite mentors. Way to go, Del!!

http://www.thenewstribune.com/news/local/story/247672.html 

(Avery, if the link doesn't work, let me know and I'll try to copy it for you.)

Dave Davis, RPT





Craftsmen polish voice of Paradise Inn piano
Schmoller and Mueller is going upscale at Paradise. The upright piano built by the Omaha, Neb., piano company was a tonal wreck by the time Paradise Inn was closed two years ago for a $20.3 million seismic upgrade and renovation. It had graced the lobby of the Mount Rainier inn for 80 years. 


A service of TheNewsTribune.com.

From "Alan Barnard" <pianotuner@embarqmail.com>

"7 foot tall piano" ?!? I don't think so. In fact, I don't think Schmoller and Mueller ever made an upright taller than 6' 11 1/2 ", if memory serves.

Nice article, though, as you say.

Alan Barnard
Salem, MO

From "Cy Shuster" <cy@shusterpiano.com>

Paradise Inn piano facts

Built: 1925 (estimated)

Manufacturer: Schmoller and Mueller of Omaha, Neb.

Style: 7-foot-tall upright

What?!?!?

--Cy--

ABQ, NM

  

                                                

					
                                                    

        
                                                
				
                                                

                                                    
                                                        
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  Here is an article about two of my favorite mentors. Way to go, Del!!

  http://www.thenewstribune.com/news/local/story/247672.html 

  (Avery, if the link doesn't work, let me know and I'll try to copy it for you.)

  Dave Davis, RPT



    Craftsmen polish voice of Paradise Inn piano
    Schmoller and Mueller is going upscale at Paradise. The upright piano built by the Omaha, Neb., piano company was a tonal wreck by the time Paradise Inn was closed two years ago for a $20.3 million seismic upgrade and renovation. It had graced the lobby of the Mount Rainier inn for 80 years. 
    A service of TheNewsTribune.com. 


     

From "Delwin D Fandrich" <fandrich@pianobuilders.com>

That custom cabinet is made of real logs. And, yes, it is about 7' tall. The
actual piano is 58" tall.
 
Del
Delwin D Fandrich
Piano Design & Manufacturing Consultant
620 South Tower Avenue
Centralia, Washington 98531  USA
Phone  360.736-7563
<mailto:fandrich@pianobuilders.com> 


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From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of
Cy Shuster
Sent: January 08, 2008 7:36 PM
To: Pianotech List
Subject: Re: NW Technicians in the news


Paradise Inn piano facts

Built: 1925 (estimated)

Manufacturer: Schmoller and Mueller of Omaha, Neb.

Style: 7-foot-tall upright

What?!?!?

--Cy--

ABQ, NM

From Ron Nossaman <rnossaman@cox.net>

> Here is an article about two of my favorite mentors. Way to go, Del!!
>  
> http://www.thenewstribune.com/news/local/story/247672.html


?There are 30 steps to restringing,? Snyder explained.

EXPLAINED?????? Is this a retired teacher, government 
employee, or Microsoft tech support guy? Gotta be my favorite.

Otherwise, a really fun project. Just needs a better reporter.
Ron N

From "paul bruesch" <paul@bruesch.net>

I noticed that too... typical of the sort of thing you notice in a newspaper
article about something you know something about. Really makes ya' wonder
what they're telling us about things we don't know about...

On Jan 8, 2008 10:20 PM, Ron Nossaman <rnossaman@cox.net> wrote:

>
> > Here is an article about two of my favorite mentors. Way to go, Del!!
> >
> > http://www.thenewstribune.com/news/local/story/247672.html
>
>
> "There are 30 steps to restringing," Snyder explained.
>
> EXPLAINED?????? Is this a retired teacher, government
> employee, or Microsoft tech support guy? Gotta be my favorite.
>
> Otherwise, a really fun project. Just needs a better reporter.
> Ron N
>

From "Cy Shuster" <cy@shusterpiano.com>



                                                

					
                                                    

        
                                                
				
                                                

                                                    
                                                        
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From: "Ron Nossaman" <rnossaman@cox.net>
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Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 9:20 PM
Subject: Re: NW Technicians in the news


>
>> Here is an article about two of my favorite mentors. Way to go, Del!!
>>  http://www.thenewstribune.com/news/local/story/247672.html
>
>
> ?There are 30 steps to restringing,? Snyder explained.
>
> EXPLAINED?????? Is this a retired teacher, government employee, or 
> Microsoft tech support guy? Gotta be my favorite.
>
> Otherwise, a really fun project. Just needs a better reporter.
> Ron N

He probably meant Yamaha's 32 Steps to regulation.

--Cy--
ABQ, NM

From Ron Nossaman <rnossaman@cox.net>

>> ?There are 30 steps to restringing,? Snyder explained.
>>
>> EXPLAINED?????? Is this a retired teacher, government employee, or 
>> Microsoft tech support guy? Gotta be my favorite.
>>
>> Otherwise, a really fun project. Just needs a better reporter.
>> Ron N
> 
> He probably meant Yamaha's 32 Steps to regulation.
> 
> --Cy--

That HAS to be it, or possibly the smallest Giuga number, or 
maybe the sum of the square of the first four integers. Oh 
yea, he probably had in mind the number of edges on a 
dodecahedron, or the atomic number of zinc. Yea, that surely 
must be it, or maybe it was a half hour till Wapner, or he was 
looking for change from a buck for a $0.70 purchase. It's a 
complete mystery! I'm quite sure he couldn't possibly have had 
in mind anything remotely resembling what he said, and just 
didn't elaborate, or if he did, it wasn't reported. That 
couldn't possibly be, so we can forget that right away. Maybe 
he Reeeeeally meant the number of casters he replaced last 
century. Yea, that's probably it - or the number of toes on a 
set of triplets.

Get a grip, man.
Ron N

From Richard Brekne <ricb@pianostemmer.no>

The sad fact is that the number of readers who could digest a well 
written article and get anything meaningful out of it is so minuscule 
that they are nearly invisible. Gets discouraging really.  The degree of 
self imposed ignorance out there. For example... I just ran into a local 
well know pianist who looks on with total disdain anything technical at 
all about pianos.  The second anyone starts trying to explain even the 
most simple of details... the person starts yawning... and thats in a 
polite mood :) Yet this same person insists on speaking with authority 
on a host of subject matters about what is or isnt good for a piano.  
One of the most interesting ones is that this person states 
catagorically that any pitch change, or change in voicing... or any 
change at all really is bad for a piano.  Yet products like Damp Chasers 
are too be scorned as well.

Reading our own ranks isnt always so encouraging either when it comes 
down to it.... no direct criticism meant to anyone in particular... and 
myself included in the general criticism... but the things we seem to 
keep re-learning... or re-getting-wrong.... :)

Well well... nobody said life was supposed to make sense I guess.

Cheers
RicB



    That HAS to be it, or possibly the smallest Giuga number, or
    maybe the sum of the square of the first four integers. Oh
    yea, he probably had in mind the number of edges on a
    dodecahedron, or the atomic number of zinc. Yea, that surely
    must be it, or maybe it was a half hour till Wapner, or he was
    looking for change from a buck for a $0.70 purchase. It's a
    complete mystery! I'm quite sure he couldn't possibly have had
    in mind anything remotely resembling what he said, and just
    didn't elaborate, or if he did, it wasn't reported. That
    couldn't possibly be, so we can forget that right away. Maybe
    he Reeeeeally meant the number of casters he replaced last
    century. Yea, that's probably it - or the number of toes on a
    set of triplets.

From "Delwin D Fandrich" <fandrich@pianobuilders.com>

I'm not sure Jim actually said that....

Del
Delwin D Fandrich
Piano Design & Manufacturing Consultant
620 South Tower Avenue
Centralia, Washington 98531  USA
Phone  360.736-7563
<mailto:fandrich@pianobuilders.com> 

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| [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of Ron Nossaman
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| "There are 30 steps to restringing," Snyder explained.
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| EXPLAINED?????? Is this a retired teacher, government 
| employee, or Microsoft tech support guy? Gotta be my favorite.
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| Otherwise, a really fun project. Just needs a better reporter.
| Ron N
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From Ron Nossaman <rnossaman@cox.net>

> I'm not sure Jim actually said that....
> 
> Del

I can't imagine he would. Sorry, I didn't say that well. I 
meant the reporter.
Ron N

From Dave Davis <dave@davispiano.com>

Awright, you dirsrespectful, disbelieving dumplings. I thought the article was nice. 

 If I remember correctly, it is closer to 7'10" tall. I've attached a photo.

Dave Davis, RPT 

 
>> EXPLAINED?????? Is this a retired teacher, government employee, or 
>> Microsoft tech support guy? Gotta be my favorite.
>>
>> Otherwise, a really fun project. Just needs a better reporter.
>> Ron N
> 
> He probably meant Yamaha's 32 Steps to regulation.
> 
> --Cy--
 Yea, that's probably it - or the number of toes on a 
set of triplets.

Get a grip, man.
Ron N

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From "alan forsyth" <alan@forsythalan.wanadoo.co.uk>

Hmmn , looks like a typical log scale design!



Here's a taller upright and this WOULD require 30 steps to re string..... upwards!



AF
  

                                                

					
                                                    

                

                    

                        

                                
                                    
                                
                                
                                    
                                
                        
                        
                    
                
        
                                                
				
                                                

                                                    
                                                        
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  Awright, you dirsrespectful, disbelieving dumplings. I thought the article was nice. 

   If I remember correctly, it is closer to 7'10" tall. I've attached a photo.

From "Fenton Murray" <fmurray@cruzio.com>

I must have missed the explanation of the 15' tall upright pictured below. Can someone provide some information, or have I been duped?
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  Hmmn , looks like a typical log scale design!



  Here's a taller upright and this WOULD require 30 steps to re string..... upwards!



  AF
    
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    Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 6:50 AM
    Subject: Re: NW Technicians in the news


    Awright, you dirsrespectful, disbelieving dumplings. I thought the article was nice. 

     If I remember correctly, it is closer to 7'10" tall. I've attached a photo.

From Ron Nossaman <rnossaman@cox.net>

> Awright, you dirsrespectful, disbelieving dumplings. I thought the 
> article was nice.

You're right. It was nice.


>  If I remember correctly, it is closer to 7'10" tall. I've attached a photo.
>  
> Dave Davis, RPT

Well, yea, the poles may be, with considerable empty box above 
the actual piano (shades of Marantz), but the back assembly in 
the article looks console size to me. Or is the back assembly 
shown something else?
Ron N

From "David Ilvedson" <ilvey@sbcglobal.net>

Alright Dave!!!!!



David Ilvedson, RPT

Pacifica, CA 94044









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From: "Dave Davis"

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Received: 1/8/2008 10:50:23 PM

Subject: Re: NW Technicians in the news





Awright, you dirsrespectful, disbelieving dumplings. I thought the article was nice.



 If I remember correctly, it is closer to 7'10" tall. I've attached a photo.



Dave Davis, RPT





>> EXPLAINED?????? Is this a retired teacher, government employee, or

>> Microsoft tech support guy? Gotta be my favorite.

>>

>> Otherwise, a really fun project. Just needs a better reporter.

>> Ron N

>

> He probably meant Yamaha's 32 Steps to regulation.

>

> --Cy--

 Yea, that's probably it - or the number of toes on a

set of triplets.



Get a grip, man.

Ron N

From Richard Brekne <ricb@pianostemmer.no>

From the article.... a quote that comes close to my heart. A point 
museums around the world would do well to consider more closely when 
deciding when and when not to condemn an instrument to a further life of 
being essentially a facsimile of the instrument it once was.

Cheers
RicB


    ?A piano that sits unplayed in a museum is dead, lifeless,? Fandrich
    said. ?Pianos are built to be played. From my perspective, we want
    it to be a good music instrument.?

From Richard Brekne <ricb@pianostemmer.no>

I'd agree... great story really... but the article itself was far from 
impressive. Struck me as having been written by someone just finished 
with <<Reporting 101>> from Shohomish Junior College.


    Otherwise, a really fun project. Just needs a better reporter.

Perhaps the techs involved can do a better job in an article for the 
Journal.. ?

Cheers
RicB

From Dave Davis <dave@davispiano.com>

No, the back assembly is your ordinary, everyday, run of the mill old upright. I have more photos on my other computer, but it's in the shop for a few days. The custom casework was created in 1919, by the same fellow that decorated the inside of the lodge. The inside of the lodge has the same theme.

Dave Davis, RPT



                                                

					
                                                    

        
                                                
				
                                                

                                                    
                                                        
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From: Ron Nossaman rnossaman@cox.net

Well, yea, the poles may be, with considerable empty box above 
the actual piano (shades of Marantz), but the back assembly in 
the article looks console size to me. Or is the back assembly 
shown something else?
Ron N

From Richard Brekne <ricb@pianostemmer.no>

ROLF !!  Me thinks you just took over the top of the list for funniest 
comment of the month !

Cheers
RicB


    Hmmn , looks like a typical log scale design!

    URL:
    http://www.ptg.org/pipermail/pianotech/attachments/20080109/86214443/attachment-0001.html

    AF
     

From "Alan Barnard" <pianotuner@embarqmail.com>

Ah, I repent and confess that I must be a dumpling ... I wonder if growing brackets caused this giantism.

But, alas, being allergic, I cannot be an apple dumpling. I am enjoying some beef ravioli at the moment, so I guess I shall be a beef dumpling (which is somewhat different than a cow dumpling, per se; I've seen those ...)

Alan Barnard
Salem, MO




Original message
From: "Dave Davis"
To: "Pianotech List"
Received: 1/9/2008 12:50:23 AM
Subject: Re: NW Technicians in the news


Awright, you dirsrespectful, disbelieving dumplings. I thought the article was nice.

 If I remember correctly, it is closer to 7'10" tall. I've attached a photo.

Dave Davis, RPT


>> EXPLAINED?????? Is this a retired teacher, government employee, or
>> Microsoft tech support guy? Gotta be my favorite.
>>
>> Otherwise, a really fun project. Just needs a better reporter.
>> Ron N
>
> He probably meant Yamaha's 32 Steps to regulation.
>
> --Cy--
 Yea, that's probably it - or the number of toes on a
set of triplets.

Get a grip, man.
Ron N