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  • 1.  Beyonce

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    Posted 02-19-2013 22:05
    From Bruce Gibson Piano Technician <bruce@bgpianotech.com>
    
    So, who was the piano tech tuning the piano for Beyonce in her recent HBO documentary? 
    
    Bruce Gibson 
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       1. Re: Prepared frickin'piano and damaged bass strings (David Love)
       2. Re: prepared frickin' piano, etc. (Alan Eder)
       3. Re: First Pinbock (Noah Frere)
    
    
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    Message: 1
    Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 16:12:51 -0800
    From: "David Love" <davidlovepianos@comcast.net>
    To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
    Subject: Re: [pianotech] Prepared frickin'piano and damaged bass
    	strings
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    Yes, it was communicated.  A contract was signed in which a no prepared or
    hands on strings clause is included.  This was a group and several pianists
    were included so the director of the organization signed off on it.  I'm
    letting the venue handle collection aspects.  Fortunately, this was a
    relatively new set of strings and so the specs are readily available so
    replacement will be easy.  Still there is cost and time involved in
    replacement and settling of the new strings.
    
     
    
    It's all getting handled but just thought I'd throw it out there as a
    precautionary note.  I'm always concerned when I hear "prepared piano" and
    the several concert venues I deal with have instructions that I am to be
    informed if there is something like that on the program so that I can have
    some say on whether and how it's done.  
    
     
    
    David Love
    
    www.davidlovepianos.com
    
     
    
    From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf
    Of Gene Nelson
    Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 9:45 AM
    To: pianotech@ptg.org
    Subject: Re: [pianotech] Prepared frickin'piano and damaged bass strings
    
     
    
    Curious if there is any way to trace back to find out if the policy was or
    was not communicated to the pianist?
    
    Possibly the pianist has liability insurance.
    
    I would really like to avoid a similar situation at the venue I work.
    
    I have dealt with string pluckers at the university where I worked years ago
    but it has not come up here yet.
    
    Your experience is the ultimate.
    
    Gene
    
     
    
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    From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf
    Of Euphonious Thumpe
    Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 9:26 AM
    To: pianotech@ptg.org
    Subject: Re: [pianotech] Prepared frickin'piano and damaged bass strings
    
     
    
    
    David, I agree with you 100%! And when you hear the dread words "World
    Premier" preceding a symphony orchestra broadcast on NPR these days, have
    your hand ready to turn it off, or suffer! (Many "Serious Music" composers
    now have the same cacophonous malevolence toward humanity as "punk rockers",
    apparently.
    Perhaps "getting back" at everyone, because, despite high grades, they
    couldn't get a date in High School.)
    
    Thumpe
    
     
    
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    From: David Love <davidlovepianos@comcast.net>; 
    To: <pianotech@ptg.org>; 
    Subject: [pianotech] Prepared frickin'piano and damaged bass strings 
    Sent: Tue, Feb 19, 2013 5:13:25 PM 
    
    
    Just came back to a piano that I service regularly after a prepared piano
    piece in which six bass strings (3 pairs of bichords) were damaged
    apparently by the pianist being called upon to scrape something up and down
    the length of the several pairs of strings.  Of course, the windings are now
    rattling.  
    
    The directors of this venue have issued previously a "no prepared piano" and
    "no reaching in" rule in order to avoid just this type of thing however it
    apparently fell on deaf (appropriate considering the nature of the music--ok
    cheap shot) ears.  
    
    Just an FYI and a bit of vent.
    
    ^%&*#$%&($)%*($)^&(#$)
    
    David Love
    www.davidlovepianos.com
    
    
    
     
    
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    Message: 2
    Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 19:23:42 -0500 (EST)
    From: Alan Eder <reggaepass@aol.com>
    To: pianotech@ptg.org
    Subject: Re: [pianotech] prepared frickin' piano, etc.
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      I
    don't believe the piece has reached the public domain. 
    
    May it never, until it can re played without harm to the instrument.
    
    
    Alan Eder
    
    
    
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    From: David Love <davidlovepianos@comcast.net>
    To: pianotech <pianotech@ptg.org>
    Sent: Tue, Feb 19, 2013 4:03 pm
    Subject: Re: [pianotech] prepared frickin' piano, etc.
    
    
    Yes, the people who rented the space will be billed.  In answer to Ed
    Foote's question, I don't know the name or composer of the piece.  I think
    it was a local teacher's composition and her student(s) who "played" it.  I
    don't believe the piece has reached the public domain.  
    
    David Love
    www.davidlovepianos.com
    
    
    David,
    I truly sympathize with that! Utterly stupid things happen, when stupid
    people are involved! Hopefully, the "player", (I'll not call him a Pianist),
    will have to pay for them! If not, then someone needs to grow a backbone,
    imo.
    Sheesh!
    Joe 
    
    
    
    Joe Garrett, R.P.T.
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    Message: 3
    Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 21:17:39 -0500
    From: Noah Frere <noahfrere@gmail.com>
    To: pianotech@ptg.org
    Subject: Re: [pianotech] First Pinbock
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    Okay, I've got the plate removed, and the pinblock too now. Turns out there
    is a plate flange. So I think we've got a plan: 1) strengthen the heck out
    of the case. 2) Replace the pinblock. Easy ;)
    I've cleaned up most of the epoxy goop that some jerk put in there (gosh i
    wonder who THAT was?). BTW the eopxy was West Systems, but I guess I didn't
    use any filler. I'll order some High Density or Colloidal filler for the
    fitting. The pinblock measures just under 38"x 8" and is 1.5" thick. I'd
    like to use the most eco-friendly wood possible while still holding up
    under the tension for a few decades. Any suggestions? Wouldn't it be great
    to reclaim some used hardwood? Somebody should do that. I don't know if
    that's possible though given the integrity needed for the pinblock. When I
    replace a soundboard someday I'd like to try the green SB that the
    Canadians were supposedly experimenting with a couple/few years ago.
    However, when I asked them about it a few months ago I got no response.
    If anyone wants to send me a pinblock from reclaimed hardwood and can
    guarantee it's integrity, for a reasonable price, I would be willing to pay
    higher than what Delignit or Schaff, etc. goes for.
    This is to be an eco-friendly piano, after all. The felt will come from
    either recycled or upcycled materials as much as possible. Et cetera,[image:
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    The gaps at the top of the piano were filled with square blocks. However,
    they were glued to the top of the piano, and the only way to remove the top
    was to bust it out, which took the 2 blocks you see missing here out. I
    will of course fill in these gaps. I kind of like the idea of creating a
    new back from strong beech plywood or something with holes cut out for the
    handles and soundboard. However, as far as filling in these gaps first:
    Terry said: " However, I'd fill the gaps with chunks of good strong
    hardwood. Hard maple is fine, but there are also a slew of ring-porous
    hardwoods that are very epoxy-bonding-friendly - white ash, red oak, etc.
     I would remove the 3/4" (or so) hardwood (I presume) strip on the very
    back top of the piano, cut hardwood blocks to fill the gaps between the
    posts, drill holes (1" or so) in the ends of the blocks (two or three) and
    install hardwood dowels in the block end holes (1" red oak are commonly
    available and great for this application), then I'd drill/chisel/
    poke/beat/chop/rout out holes in the side/rear of the post such that you
    can install the filler blocks, with the dowels sticking out the sides,
    between the posts from the rear." I am afraid I have read this may times
    and still don't get it. Terry, would it be possible to explain this another
    way? or draw a picture? or perhaps over the phone...
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  • 2.  Beyonce

    Posted 02-19-2013 23:08
    From Euphonious Thumpe <lclgcnp@yahoo.com>
    
    At the very least, "string pluckers" should only be able to use their hands ( no "implements of destruction") and these should be gloved. And all other meddling ( such as the insertion of objects between strings - bass strings, at least) should be banned. Deviations from such proscriptions should be subject to fines and/or remittance for identified suspected damages.
    
         Thumpe