PianoTech Archive

  • 1.  Key Lead removal help

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 01-29-2005 06:01
    From Dave Doremus <algiers_piano@bellsouth.net>
    
    Hi List, I am facing replacing all key leads in a S&S D, due to major 
    swelling/corrosion problems. Has anyone, especially those who do a 
    lot of re weighing, got a tool that will help cleanly remove so many 
    leads? I seem to remember a set of pliers advertised for this job but 
    at the time I balked at the price.
    -- 
    ----Dave
    
    
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    Dave Doremus, RPT
    New Orleans
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  • 2.  Key Lead removal help

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 01-29-2005 07:36
    From "David Love" <davidlovepianos@comcast.net>
    
    Deadleader tool from Renner made by Chris Robinson.  $135.50 plus
    shipping.  Great tool!
    
    David Love
    davidlovepianos@comcast.net 
    
    


  • 3.  Key Lead removal help

    Posted 01-29-2005 07:38
      |   view attached
    From "Michael Spalding" <spalding48@earthlink.net>
    
    Hi Dave,
    
    The plier tool is Renner, I think.  Quality, sturdy, and priced
    appropriately.  Photo attached of my cheap do-it-yourself alternative.  Use
    the drill press as an arbor press.  (DO NOT turn it on).  Steel rod in
    chuck slightly smaller than lead diameter, i.e. for 3/8 lead use 5/16 rod. 
    Pipe nipple in 4x4 has ID slightly larger than lead diameter.  If the
    resistance makes you nervous about damaging the drill press, then for sure
    you're going to splinter the key - in these situations, open up the exit
    side of the key with a forstner bit slightly larger than the lead diameter.
    
    Mike
    
    
    > [Original Message]
    > From: Dave Doremus <algiers_piano@bellsouth.net>
    > To: Pianotech <pianotech@ptg.org>
    > Date: 1/29/2005 7:03:34 AM
    > Subject: Key Lead removal help
    >
    > Hi List, I am facing replacing all key leads in a S&S D, due to major 
    > swelling/corrosion problems. Has anyone, especially those who do a 
    > lot of re weighing, got a tool that will help cleanly remove so many 
    > leads? I seem to remember a set of pliers advertised for this job but 
    > at the time I balked at the price.
    > -- 
    > ----Dave
    >
    >
    > -----------------------------
    > Dave Doremus, RPT
    > New Orleans
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  • 4.  Key Lead removal help

    Posted 01-30-2005 02:21
    From "Michael Gamble" <michael@gambles.fsnet.co.uk>
    
    Hello Michael S
    It may sound a bit hairy, but last time I had this "plumbitis" problem where 
    the keys were so stlit that the sharp tops were forced off at one end - that 
    bad! - I used a thick punch a hunk of hardwood with a suitable hole in and a 
    heavy hammer. Couldn't do the keys more harm than was already done! Needed 
    glueing the splits and the new leads in after and clamping until set. 
    Eureka! all done and OK. Pity yours is an S&S though.... my method might 
    seem rather un-refined for such a piano!
    Regards
    Michael G.(UK)
    


  • 5.  Key Lead removal help

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 01-29-2005 08:01
    From "David Love" <davidlovepianos@comcast.net>
    
    I found the best method when using an arbor press for removing the leads
    is to prepare a block of wood with a hole drilled through it just
    slightly larger than the size of the lead.  Place the block under the
    keylead you are extracting with the keylead lined up with the hole so
    that the lead is being pushed out into the hole in the block of wood.
    The wood outside the diameter of the hole will support the wood around
    the lead in the key and prevent tear out.  You can prepare the block of
    wood with three hole of different sizes 3/8"+, 1/2"+ and 5/8"+ to
    accommodate different key lead sizes.  Don't make the block any larger
    than is necessary to give support to the key as the smaller it is the
    easier it is to line up with the keylead.  Press slowly at first and
    when the lead is aligned properly you will be able to feel it through
    the arbor by how easily it gives.  
    
    The pliers are nice, though.
    
    David Love
    davidlovepianos@comcast.net 
    
    


  • 6.  Key Lead removal help

    Posted 01-29-2005 08:21
    From antares <antares@euronet.nl>
    
    Simply drilling out the lead works very fast without the danger of 
    splitting wood by pressure.
    
    Andr? Oorebeek
    Amsterdam
    The Netherlands
    
    Where 'music' is no harm can be
    
    
    
    On 29-jan-05, at 16:01, David Love wrote:
    
    > I found the best method when using an arbor press for removing the 
    > leads
    > is to prepare a block of wood with a hole drilled through it just
    > slightly larger than the size of the lead.  Place the block under the
    > keylead you are extracting with the keylead lined up with the hole so
    > that the lead is being pushed out into the hole in the block of wood.
    > The wood outside the diameter of the hole will support the wood around
    > the lead in the key and prevent tear out.  You can prepare the block of
    > wood with three hole of different sizes 3/8"+, 1/2"+ and 5/8"+ to
    > accommodate different key lead sizes.  Don't make the block any larger
    > than is necessary to give support to the key as the smaller it is the
    > easier it is to line up with the keylead.  Press slowly at first and
    > when the lead is aligned properly you will be able to feel it through
    > the arbor by how easily it gives.
    >
    > The pliers are nice, though.
    >
    > David Love
    > davidlovepianos@comcast.net
    >
    >