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  • 1.  Re; Wurlitzer Key upstop rail removal

    Posted 02-03-2010 10:27 
    From "Joseph Garrett" <joegarrett@earthlink.net>

Clay said: "Thank you for your response. The Wurlitzer I'm working on is not the standard type.
It's keystop rail doesn't unscrew - instead, both ends fit into rabbited slots which are cut into the case itself. There is sidewards play but not enough to free the other end of the rail. Can't find a deeper cut-out slot to move it further sideways to release the other end.

Thanks again for your efforts."

Clay,
It would really help if you would provide some pictures of what you are dealing with. I have a suspicion that you are dealing with one of those "folding case" pianos. A way to tell if it is, is take the kick panel off and look on the back side of it. If there are instructions as to how to take the action out and how the case "opens up", then you are dealing with a classic Wurlie Chinese Puzzle box!
Regards,
Joe



Joe Garrett, R.P.T. (Oregon)
Captain, Tool Police
Squares R I


  • 2.  Re; Wurlitzer Key upstop rail removal

    Posted 02-03-2010 10:45 
    From David Ilvedson <ilvey@sbcglobal.net>

I have never seen this, but if this actually true, then you do need to pull up in the middle.  I'd retro-fit when you get it out.   Shorten ends and use screws...if possible

David Ilvedson
Pacifica, CA

On Feb 3, 2010, at 9:27 AM, "Joseph Garrett" <joegarrett@earthlink.net> wrote:

Clay said: "Thank you for your response. The Wurlitzer I'm working on is not the standard type.
It's keystop rail doesn't unscrew - instead, both ends fit into rabbited slots which are cut into the case itself. There is sidewards play but not enough to free the other end of the rail. Can't find a deeper cut-out slot to move it further sideways to release the other end.
 
Thanks again for your efforts."
 
Clay,
It would really help if you would provide some pictures of what you are dealing with. I have a suspicion that you are dealing with one of those "folding case" pianos. A way to tell if it is, is take the kick panel off and look on the back side of it. If there are instructions as to how to take the action out and how the case "opens up", then you are dealing with a classic Wurlie Chinese Puzzle box!
Regards,
Joe
 
 
 
Joe Garrett, R.P.T. (Oregon)
Captain, Tool Police
Squares R I


  • 3.  Re; Wurlitzer Key upstop rail removal

    Posted 02-03-2010 11:30 
    From "Joseph Garrett" <joegarrett@earthlink.net>

David,
NO! The piano I'm talking about has sides that swing outward! It's like a
"Transformer" thingee. Goofiest POS I've ever seen! The date given
coincides with this abomination. First one I encountered, I pulled the kick
panel and set it aside. Spent a couple of hours figuring it out and getting
it apart. Then, when I put it back together, the last thing I put back was
the kick panel. It fell down on it's face and there, Lo and Behold, was the
directions of how the damned thing came apart!! Grrrr! (Blush!)
Joe

Joe Garrett, R.P.T. (Oregon)
Captain, Tool Police
Squares R I



> [Original Message]
> From: David Ilvedson <ilvey@sbcglobal.net>
> To: joegarrett@earthlink.net <joegarrett@earthlink.net>;
pianotech@ptg.org <pianotech@ptg.org>
> Date: 2/3/10 9:44:30 AM
> Subject: Re: [pianotech] Re; Wurlitzer Key upstop rail removal
>
> I have never seen this, but if this actually true, then you do need to
pull up in the middle.  I'd retro-fit when you get it out.   Shorten ends
and use screws...if possible
>
> David Ilvedson
> Pacifica, CA
>
> On Feb 3, 2010, at 9:27 AM, "Joseph Garrett" <joegarrett@earthlink.net>
wrote:
>
> Clay said: "Thank you for your response. The Wurlitzer I'm working on is
not the standard type.
> It's keystop rail doesn't unscrew - instead, both ends fit into rabbited
slots which are cut into the case itself. There is sidewards play but not
enough to free the other end of the rail. Can't find a deeper cut-out slot
to move it further sideways to release the other end.
>  
> Thanks again for your efforts."
>  
> Clay,
> It would really help if you would provide some pictures of what you are
dealing with. I have a suspicion that you are dealing with one of those
"folding case" pianos. A way to tell if it is, is take the kick panel off
and look on the back side of it. If there are instructions as to how to
take the action out and how the case "opens up", then you are dealing with
a classic Wurlie Chinese Puzzle box!
> Regards,
> Joe
>  
>  
>  
> Joe Garrett, R.P.T. (Oregon)
> Captain, Tool Police
> Squares R I
>  
>  
>
>
>
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  • 4.  Re; Wurlitzer Key upstop rail removal

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 02-03-2010 19:04 
    From "Clayton Bean's Piano Biz" <pianobiz@verizon.net>

Gentlemen:

Many thanks for your insights. David, if I pull up on it, it will snap for 
sure.
Joe, what you descibe sounds surrealistic; but, probably it's the case (so 
to speak).
What kind of people worked at Wurlitzer anyway?

I will let you know after my next appt March 9th.

Clay


    
                                                
    
					
                                                    

        
                                                
				
    
                                                
    
                                                    
                                                        
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  • 5.  Re; Wurlitzer Key upstop rail removal

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 02-03-2010 19:38
      |   view attached 
    From "Tom Driscoll" <tomtuner@verizon.net>

.Gentlemen AND ladies,
 This is the goofy piano that Joe refers to. I bought one once  (1980?) just 
cause it was so wierd. Some have vinyl sides and yes it is a puzzle the 
first time around.

Now Clay , back to your dilemma -- I really think the fall strip in this 
piano does move into a slot in the side and then lifts out. My advice and 
approach in cases like this is to keep investigating, look for any hidden 
screws , move , twist and contort --- go out to the car , come back do 
whatever but I would not leave the piano until it was out or it was bedtime 
. Yours , not theirs . But that's just me.
I'll check the Wurlie graveyard tomorrow.
Best,

Tom Driscoll




Subject: Re: [pianotech] Re; Wurlitzer Key upstop rail removal


> Gentlemen:
>
> Many thanks for your insights. David, if I pull up on it, it will snap for 
> sure.
> Joe, what you descibe sounds surrealistic; but, probably it's the case (so 
> to speak).
> What kind of people worked at Wurlitzer anyway?
>
> I will let you know after my next appt March 9th.
>
> Clay
>
>
>> David,
>> NO! The piano I'm talking about has sides that swing outward! It's like a
>> "Transformer" thingee. Goofiest POS I've ever seen! >>
>> Joe Garrett, R.P.T. (Oregon)


  • 6.  Re; Wurlitzer Key upstop rail removal

    Posted 02-03-2010 21:11 
    From Ron Nossaman <rnossaman@cox.net>

Clayton Bean's Piano Biz wrote:

> What kind of people worked at Wurlitzer anyway?

Those too weird even for Baldwin.
Ron N


  • 7.  Re; Wurlitzer Key upstop rail removal

    Posted 02-03-2010 19:31 
    From Jon Page <jonpage@comcast.net>

A hammer iron can bring up the attack without committing to solidification.
-- 

Regards,

Jon Page


  • 8.  Re; Wurlitzer Key upstop rail removal

    Posted 02-03-2010 20:08 
    From PAULREVENKOJONES@aol.com

In a message dated 2/3/2010 8:04:17 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
pianobiz@verizon.net writes:

What  kind of people worked at Wurlitzer anyway?
The kind of people who sat around the lunch tables during breaks and  
thought up ways to baffle technicians.
 
P


  • 9.  Re; Wurlitzer Key upstop rail removal

    Posted 02-03-2010 21:57 
    From "Joseph Garrett" <joegarrett@earthlink.net>

Clayton,
Weird ones for sure. Nice, but weird.<G> I think the design guys took a
course in Chinese Puzzle Boxes after they got out of the WWII thingee.<G>
As SkoobieDoo says: Rotsa Ruck!
Joe

Joe Garrett, R.P.T. (Oregon)
Captain, Tool Police
Squares R I



> [Original Message]
> From: Clayton Bean's Piano Biz <pianobiz@verizon.net>
> To: <joegarrett@earthlink.net>; <pianotech@ptg.org>; David Ilvedson
<ilvey@sbcglobal.net>
> Date: 2/3/10 6:03:55 PM
> Subject: Re: [pianotech] Re; Wurlitzer Key upstop rail removal
>
> Gentlemen:
>
> Many thanks for your insights. David, if I pull up on it, it will snap
for 
> sure.
> Joe, what you descibe sounds surrealistic; but, probably it's the case
(so 
> to speak).
> What kind of people worked at Wurlitzer anyway?
>
> I will let you know after my next appt March 9th.
>
> Clay
>
> 
    
                                                
    
					
                                                    

        
                                                
				
    
                                                
    
                                                    
                                                        
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