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Anybody have any insight into this piano?
The owner thought this is 1852 but it has an overstrung scale. I'm thinking 1882
I can't match up the wippen. the schwander style action has the wippen and jack pin on the same line but has a separate rest cushion.
How would you make a rest cushion? 
I'm hoping one of the replacement jacks from Schaff will work. Then I only need 2 new wippens
The agraffes on the bridge is different than I've seen. The damper upstop rail is on the front where a sostenuto would be. 
I'm guessing hammer and flanges were replaced

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Keith Roberts
owner
Hathaway Pines CA
209-770-4312
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Do you have a serial number ? Is the jack toe broken off and not repairable ? I needed a whippen for a Knabe and got one that worked from Brooks LTD.
Agraffes on the bridge ? seems unusual . Not sure what you mean by a rest cushion since on a grand it should be a rebound cushion so hammer shank hits it ut should be off of it at rest, You may just have to swap out the whip from note 1 and 88 . I think I have seen hammer flanges like this on an old Connover

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James Kelly
Owner- Fur Elise Piano Service
Pawleys Island SC
843-325-4357
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Original Message:
Sent: 05-30-2021 13:41
From: Keith Roberts
Subject: Hallet and Davis 40 D

Anybody have any insight into this piano?
The owner thought this is 1852 but it has an overstrung scale. I'm thinking 1882
I can't match up the wippen. the schwander style action has the wippen and jack pin on the same line but has a separate rest cushion.
How would you make a rest cushion?
I'm hoping one of the replacement jacks from Schaff will work. Then I only need 2 new wippens
The agraffes on the bridge is different than I've seen. The damper upstop rail is on the front where a sostenuto would be.
I'm guessing hammer and flanges were replaced

------------------------------
Keith Roberts
owner
Hathaway Pines CA
209-770-4312
------------------------------

Original Message:
Sent: 5/30/2021 6:51:00 PM
From: James Kelly
Subject: RE: Hallet and Davis 40 D

Do you have a serial number ? Is the jack toe broken off and not repairable ? I needed a whippen for a Knabe and got one that worked from Brooks LTD.
Agraffes on the bridge ? seems unusual . Not sure what you mean by a rest cushion since on a grand it should be a rebound cushion so hammer shank hits it ut should be off of it at rest, You may just have to swap out the whip from note 1 and 88 . I think I have seen hammer flanges like this on an old Connover

------------------------------
James Kelly
Owner- Fur Elise Piano Service
Pawleys Island SC
843-325-4357
------------------------------

Original Message:
Sent: 05-30-2021 13:41
From: Keith Roberts
Subject: Hallet and Davis 40 D

Anybody have any insight into this piano?
The owner thought this is 1852 but it has an overstrung scale. I'm thinking 1882
I can't match up the wippen. the schwander style action has the wippen and jack pin on the same line but has a separate rest cushion.
How would you make a rest cushion?
I'm hoping one of the replacement jacks from Schaff will work. Then I only need 2 new wippens
The agraffes on the bridge is different than I've seen. The damper upstop rail is on the front where a sostenuto would be.
I'm guessing hammer and flanges were replaced

------------------------------
Keith Roberts
owner
Hathaway Pines CA
209-770-4312
------------------------------

Pianotek has several whippens with the rebound cushion - Steinway Style, Mason & Hamlin, Yamaha but I think Brooks is also worth trying

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James Kelly
Owner- Fur Elise Piano Service
Pawleys Island SC
843-325-4357
------------------------------

Original Message:
Sent: 05-30-2021 19:41
From: Keith Roberts
Subject: Hallet and Davis 40 D

No serial number that can be found.

Yes of course rebound cushion.

Most of the whips from schaff need a rebound rail.

I'll check Brooks.

Original Message:
Sent: 5/30/2021 6:51:00 PM
From: James Kelly
Subject: RE: Hallet and Davis 40 D

Do you have a serial number ? Is the jack toe broken off and not repairable ? I needed a whippen for a Knabe and got one that worked from Brooks LTD.
Agraffes on the bridge ? seems unusual . Not sure what you mean by a rest cushion since on a grand it should be a rebound cushion so hammer shank hits it ut should be off of it at rest, You may just have to swap out the whip from note 1 and 88 . I think I have seen hammer flanges like this on an old Connover

------------------------------
James Kelly
Owner- Fur Elise Piano Service
Pawleys Island SC
843-325-4357

Original Message:
Sent: 05-30-2021 13:41
From: Keith Roberts
Subject: Hallet and Davis 40 D

Anybody have any insight into this piano?
The owner thought this is 1852 but it has an overstrung scale. I'm thinking 1882
I can't match up the wippen. the schwander style action has the wippen and jack pin on the same line but has a separate rest cushion.
How would you make a rest cushion?
I'm hoping one of the replacement jacks from Schaff will work. Then I only need 2 new wippens
The agraffes on the bridge is different than I've seen. The damper upstop rail is on the front where a sostenuto would be.
I'm guessing hammer and flanges were replaced

------------------------------
Keith Roberts
owner
Hathaway Pines CA
209-770-4312
------------------------------

I have worked on several of these old square grands and have never seen one manufactured as late as the 1880's.  I thought they discontinued making these by the time of the war between the states (civil war), but I could be wrong.

Clarence Zeches

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Clarence Zeches
Piano Service Enterprise School of Technology
Toccoa GA
706-886-4035
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Original Message:
Sent: 05-30-2021 18:50
From: James Kelly
Subject: Hallet and Davis 40 D

Do you have a serial number ? Is the jack toe broken off and not repairable ? I needed a whippen for a Knabe and got one that worked from Brooks LTD.
Agraffes on the bridge ? seems unusual . Not sure what you mean by a rest cushion since on a grand it should be a rebound cushion so hammer shank hits it ut should be off of it at rest, You may just have to swap out the whip from note 1 and 88 . I think I have seen hammer flanges like this on an old Connover

------------------------------
James Kelly
Owner- Fur Elise Piano Service
Pawleys Island SC
843-325-4357

Original Message:
Sent: 05-30-2021 13:41
From: Keith Roberts
Subject: Hallet and Davis 40 D

Anybody have any insight into this piano?
The owner thought this is 1852 but it has an overstrung scale. I'm thinking 1882
I can't match up the wippen. the schwander style action has the wippen and jack pin on the same line but has a separate rest cushion.
How would you make a rest cushion?
I'm hoping one of the replacement jacks from Schaff will work. Then I only need 2 new wippens
The agraffes on the bridge is different than I've seen. The damper upstop rail is on the front where a sostenuto would be.
I'm guessing hammer and flanges were replaced

------------------------------
Keith Roberts
owner
Hathaway Pines CA
209-770-4312
------------------------------

Original Message:
Sent: 5/31/2021 4:17:00 PM
From: Clarence Zeches
Subject: RE: Hallet and Davis 40 D

I have worked on several of these old square grands and have never seen one manufactured as late as the 1880's.  I thought they discontinued making these by the time of the war between the states (civil war), but I could be wrong.

Clarence Zeches

------------------------------
Clarence Zeches
Piano Service Enterprise School of Technology
Toccoa GA
706-886-4035
------------------------------

Original Message:
Sent: 05-30-2021 18:50
From: James Kelly
Subject: Hallet and Davis 40 D

Do you have a serial number ? Is the jack toe broken off and not repairable ? I needed a whippen for a Knabe and got one that worked from Brooks LTD.
Agraffes on the bridge ? seems unusual . Not sure what you mean by a rest cushion since on a grand it should be a rebound cushion so hammer shank hits it ut should be off of it at rest, You may just have to swap out the whip from note 1 and 88 . I think I have seen hammer flanges like this on an old Connover

------------------------------
James Kelly
Owner- Fur Elise Piano Service
Pawleys Island SC
843-325-4357

Original Message:
Sent: 05-30-2021 13:41
From: Keith Roberts
Subject: Hallet and Davis 40 D

Anybody have any insight into this piano?
The owner thought this is 1852 but it has an overstrung scale. I'm thinking 1882
I can't match up the wippen. the schwander style action has the wippen and jack pin on the same line but has a separate rest cushion.
How would you make a rest cushion?
I'm hoping one of the replacement jacks from Schaff will work. Then I only need 2 new wippens
The agraffes on the bridge is different than I've seen. The damper upstop rail is on the front where a sostenuto would be.
I'm guessing hammer and flanges were replaced

------------------------------
Keith Roberts
owner
Hathaway Pines CA
209-770-4312
------------------------------

Here are some pics of a 40 D that's dated around 1900. Very similar cabinet except that the feet on the legs are round and yours look oblong.
https://www.bidsquare.com/online-auctions/north-american-auction/hallet-davis-co-40d-grand-piano-c-1900-01-1113469

I have worked on an HD vertical with an agraffe bridge that was from 1884.

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Steven Rosenthal
Honolulu HI
808-521-7129
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Original Message:
Sent: 05-31-2021 23:23
From: Keith Roberts
Subject: Hallet and Davis 40 D

It's not a square. It's a 6 and a half foot grand.

Overstrung scale and a flat plate raised an inch by a wood rim piece. The plate is NOT bubbled,

Sorry I thought I took an over all pic.

When did they STOP using the agraffes on the bridge?

Original Message:
Sent: 5/31/2021 4:17:00 PM
From: Clarence Zeches
Subject: RE: Hallet and Davis 40 D

I have worked on several of these old square grands and have never seen one manufactured as late as the 1880's.  I thought they discontinued making these by the time of the war between the states (civil war), but I could be wrong.

Clarence Zeches

------------------------------
Clarence Zeches
Piano Service Enterprise School of Technology
Toccoa GA
706-886-4035

Original Message:
Sent: 05-30-2021 18:50
From: James Kelly
Subject: Hallet and Davis 40 D

Do you have a serial number ? Is the jack toe broken off and not repairable ? I needed a whippen for a Knabe and got one that worked from Brooks LTD.
Agraffes on the bridge ? seems unusual . Not sure what you mean by a rest cushion since on a grand it should be a rebound cushion so hammer shank hits it ut should be off of it at rest, You may just have to swap out the whip from note 1 and 88 . I think I have seen hammer flanges like this on an old Connover

------------------------------
James Kelly
Owner- Fur Elise Piano Service
Pawleys Island SC
843-325-4357

Original Message:
Sent: 05-30-2021 13:41
From: Keith Roberts
Subject: Hallet and Davis 40 D

Anybody have any insight into this piano?
The owner thought this is 1852 but it has an overstrung scale. I'm thinking 1882
I can't match up the wippen. the schwander style action has the wippen and jack pin on the same line but has a separate rest cushion.
How would you make a rest cushion?
I'm hoping one of the replacement jacks from Schaff will work. Then I only need 2 new wippens
The agraffes on the bridge is different than I've seen. The damper upstop rail is on the front where a sostenuto would be.
I'm guessing hammer and flanges were replaced

------------------------------
Keith Roberts
owner
Hathaway Pines CA
209-770-4312
------------------------------

Original Message:
Sent: 5/31/2021 11:41:00 PM
From: Steven Rosenthal
Subject: RE: Hallet and Davis 40 D

Here are some pics of a 40 D that's dated around 1900. Very similar cabinet except that the feet on the legs are round and yours look oblong.
https://www.bidsquare.com/online-auctions/north-american-auction/hallet-davis-co-40d-grand-piano-c-1900-01-1113469

I have worked on an HD vertical with an agraffe bridge that was from 1884.

------------------------------
Steven Rosenthal
Honolulu HI
808-521-7129
------------------------------

Original Message:
Sent: 05-31-2021 23:23
From: Keith Roberts
Subject: Hallet and Davis 40 D

It's not a square. It's a 6 and a half foot grand.

Overstrung scale and a flat plate raised an inch by a wood rim piece. The plate is NOT bubbled,

Sorry I thought I took an over all pic.

When did they STOP using the agraffes on the bridge?

Original Message:
Sent: 5/31/2021 4:17:00 PM
From: Clarence Zeches
Subject: RE: Hallet and Davis 40 D

I have worked on several of these old square grands and have never seen one manufactured as late as the 1880's.  I thought they discontinued making these by the time of the war between the states (civil war), but I could be wrong.

Clarence Zeches

------------------------------
Clarence Zeches
Piano Service Enterprise School of Technology
Toccoa GA
706-886-4035

Original Message:
Sent: 05-30-2021 18:50
From: James Kelly
Subject: Hallet and Davis 40 D

Do you have a serial number ? Is the jack toe broken off and not repairable ? I needed a whippen for a Knabe and got one that worked from Brooks LTD.
Agraffes on the bridge ? seems unusual . Not sure what you mean by a rest cushion since on a grand it should be a rebound cushion so hammer shank hits it ut should be off of it at rest, You may just have to swap out the whip from note 1 and 88 . I think I have seen hammer flanges like this on an old Connover

------------------------------
James Kelly
Owner- Fur Elise Piano Service
Pawleys Island SC
843-325-4357

Original Message:
Sent: 05-30-2021 13:41
From: Keith Roberts
Subject: Hallet and Davis 40 D

Anybody have any insight into this piano?
The owner thought this is 1852 but it has an overstrung scale. I'm thinking 1882
I can't match up the wippen. the schwander style action has the wippen and jack pin on the same line but has a separate rest cushion.
How would you make a rest cushion?
I'm hoping one of the replacement jacks from Schaff will work. Then I only need 2 new wippens
The agraffes on the bridge is different than I've seen. The damper upstop rail is on the front where a sostenuto would be.
I'm guessing hammer and flanges were replaced

------------------------------
Keith Roberts
owner
Hathaway Pines CA
209-770-4312
------------------------------