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  • 1.  Sabathil harpsichord

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 09-18-2014 12:39
    Hi all,

    I have just been delivered a Sabathil and Sons harpsichord to the shop from one of our practice rooms.  I've never heard of them and this one is in not so good shape.  It has 2- 8' 's, no 4' 's and a lute stop that has no felts left on it.  They at least would like both 8 foots working, but only one works now. The opera will be using it in the pit starting next month.

    If you have any information on these instruments, please tell me what you know.

    Thanks!

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    Paul T. Williams RPT
    Director of Piano Services
    School of Music
    813 Assembly St
    University of South Carolina
    Columbia, SC 29208
    pwilliams@mozart.sc.edu
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  • 2.  RE: Sabathil harpsichord

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 09-18-2014 13:02
    Correction.  It has 1- 8' and 1 - 4' registers.  Also, single keyboard, plastic jacks with huge green dampers and an all around metal frame with a cross bar underneath.  Now I find out they don't care about the 4'  's.  The lute stop can move to the 8' as well as left to the 4' strings.  Quite different. The 4' strings are slightly lower than the 8' and go down and 'under' the bridges and terminate at the same hitch pins as the 8'.  I'll keep digging and tell you more that I find out.

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    Paul T. Williams RPT
    Director of Piano Services
    School of Music
    813 Assembly St
    University of South Carolina
    Columbia, SC 29208
    pwilliams@mozart.sc.edu
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  • 3.  RE: Sabathil harpsichord

    Posted 09-18-2014 14:22

    If you require parts or the one page instruction sheet let me know and I can put you in touch with Sigurd via direct email. There is a book for 12 bucks from Hubbard harpsichord that is also available I believe.

    Sigurd is the son of the original maker. The shop on Howe St in Vancouver was sold more than a decade ago but he is still active in the area working from Bowen Island.

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    Dan Silverwood
    www.silverwoodpianos.com
    http://silverwoodpianos.blogspot.com/
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  • 4.  RE: Sabathil harpsichord

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 09-18-2014 14:26
    I have a Sabathil of that vintage in my customer base. Not that troublesome to deal with. The jack registers are aluminum channel, and on mine have had a tendency to bend a bit and catch a couple jacks in the middle of the keyboard sometimes. The dampers are a pain, as their "sleeves" are very hard to slide on the jack body, so it is hard to adjust them and hard to remove them (removing is necessary in order to voice, as the damper "straddles" the plectrum). 

    The 4' strings going through slots in in the 8' bridge is a standard Sabathil procedure. They did the same with a double manual with 16' strings, so the 4' strings went through two bridge slots. It means the "waste" length is many times the speaking length, interesting for tuning. The metal plate does make the tuning more stable, though. You are lucky it is fairly recent vintage, as the earlier, 1970s version had foam rubber everywhere, including lute stop.
    Regards,
    Fred Sturm
    "The true sign of intelligence is not knowledge, but imagination." - Einstein







    ------Original Message------

    Correction.  It has 1- 8' and 1 - 4' registers.  Also, single keyboard, plastic jacks with huge green dampers and an all around metal frame with a cross bar underneath.  Now I find out they don't care about the 4'  's.  The lute stop can move to the 8' as well as left to the 4' strings.  Quite different. The 4' strings are slightly lower than the 8' and go down and 'under' the bridges and terminate at the same hitch pins as the 8'.  I'll keep digging and tell you more that I find out.

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    Paul T. Williams RPT
    Director of Piano Services
    School of Music
    813 Assembly St
    University of South Carolina
    Columbia, SC 29208
    pwilliams@mozart.sc.edu
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  • 5.  RE: Sabathil harpsichord

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 09-18-2014 14:47
    You can find some photos of a 1994 Sabathil I uploaded here. Contrast it with photos of a 1973 Sabathil here. Both are 2 manual instruments. I am very happy that the owner of the 1973 hasn't called me in nearly 10 years. The 1994 I tune every year or two, and "fix what's broke" (broken string, sticking jack, etc.) It has been a pretty reliable instrument. Not a great sound, but it functions and stays in tune.

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    Fred Sturm
    University of New Mexico
    http://fredsturm.net
    "When I smell a flower, I don't think about how it was cultivated. I like to listen to music the same way." -Federico Mompou
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  • 6.  RE: Sabathil harpsichord

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 09-19-2014 08:00
    Great photos Fred. Thanks for posting.  Ours I think is a '69 or so an old timer here tells me who said it was here when he was a student in the '70's.  You're right, it stays in tune well, but sounds horrible.  Not like the Benn and Tyre I cared for at UNL.  Did you get a chance to look at the Benn when you were there for your all day seminar? Very pretty.

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    Paul T. Williams RPT
    Director of Piano Services
    School of Music
    813 Assembly St
    University of South Carolina
    Columbia, SC 29208
    pwilliams@mozart.sc.edu
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  • 7.  RE: Sabathil harpsichord

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 09-19-2014 10:41
    So I guess then that Sabathil only went to the foam rubber in the 70s. That is a nasty problem (foam becomes hard and begins to disintegrate after a couple decades), as they used it for the jack rail (with three very distinct levels, about 3/4" different for the 4, 8, and 16' jacks) and the buff/lute stop rails, and I think somewhere else. Very thick, so a bit of a problem to come up with a usable replacement (probably a strip of wood covered with felt - but for the jack rail that means three strips of wood custom sized)). The monster from the 70s I have worked on is extremely heavy in touch, and has very little power/carry. A bunch of pedals for all the register changes, with an extraordinarily complex mechanism (fortunately it had no problems). 

    I would just concentrate on "making it work" and call it good enough. I'd prefer a Zuckermann straight side (kit instrument of that era): more volume, far easier to service. Probably not as pretty, though. Sabathil made nice cases, good woodworking. The later instruments, 90s, have a better tone, not ideal but acceptable.
    Regards,
    Fred Sturm
    "Art is not a mirror held up to reality, but a hammer with which to shape it." Brecht



    ------Original Message------

    Great photos Fred. Thanks for posting.  Ours I think is a '69 or so an old timer here tells me who said it was here when he was a student in the '70's.  You're right, it stays in tune well, but sounds horrible.  Not like the Benn and Tyre I cared for at UNL.  Did you get a chance to look at the Benn when you were there for your all day seminar? Very pretty.

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    Paul T. Williams RPT
    Director of Piano Services
    School of Music
    813 Assembly St
    University of South Carolina
    Columbia, SC 29208
    pwilliams@mozart.sc.edu
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  • 8.  RE: Sabathil harpsichord

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 09-19-2014 11:05
    I saw some of the ones on their web site, but sadly, this one looks like plywood slapped together and badly stained.  It's a real one though with the same decal on the soundboard like the one you posted, Fred.  Hmmmm...  Yup, just going to make it work for now. If the day ever comes that I get on top of the "problem children" pianos here, I'll look more closely at it and maybe refinish it too.

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    Paul T. Williams RPT
    Director of Piano Services
    School of Music
    813 Assembly St
    University of South Carolina
    Columbia, SC 29208
    pwilliams@mozart.sc.edu
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