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Heavy Duty Grand Hammerhead Extracting Pliers

  • 1.  Heavy Duty Grand Hammerhead Extracting Pliers

    Posted 07-26-2006 08:18 
    From "PIANISSIMO PIANOFORTE S.L." <patrick@pianospianissimo.com>

John,

I have attached a couple of pics of my german hammer head extracting
pliers. They are great, as you don't have to do any effort to remove the
heads (no need to break the glue collar either). Plus, with these you dont
need to worry about breaking a hammer head or a shank, as you can adjust
the "depth". I paid around 80 EUR (approx 55 GBP).

You can buy it from www.baumgaertel-pianoteile.de

Regards,

Patrick




>
> A colleague of mine wants a hammerhead extractor such as one I bought
> years ago but can't remember where.   The picture below gives an idea
> of what the tool is like, though the quality of the tool (marked
> 'Sargent') is far inferior to the fine original Bernard/Sargent
> tools.  Nevertheless it does the job well.
>
> Can anyone tell me who now supplies this tool?
>
> Thanks.
>
> JD
>
>


Patrick Hinves Ballesta
Afinador/T?cnico 610442371
PIANISSIMO PIANOFORTE S.L.


  • 2.  Heavy Duty Grand Hammerhead Extracting Pliers

    Posted 07-26-2006 08:59 
    From John Delacour <JD@Pianomaker.co.uk>

At 4:17 pm +0200 26/7/06, PIANISSIMO PIANOFORTE S.L. wrote:

>I have attached a couple of pics of my german hammer head extracting
>pliers. They are great, as you don't have to do any effort to remove the
>heads (no need to break the glue collar either). Plus, with these you dont
>need to worry about breaking a hammer head or a shank, as you can adjust
>the "depth". I paid around 80 EUR (approx 55 GBP).
>
>You can buy it from www.baumgaertel-pianoteile.de

Yes, Patrick, this certainly looks a good solid tool and I'd guess 
even nicer to use than the type I have mentioned and just as 
powerful.  Thanks for the pointer.  Since I use Baumg?rtel for nearly 
all my supplies and am getting a big delivery just this week, I 
surprised I have missed it in their catalogue!  I must have another 
look this evening.

JD


  • 3.  Heavy Duty Grand Hammerhead Extracting Pliers

    Posted 07-26-2006 09:20 
    From "David Ilvedson" <ilvey@sbcglobal.net>

Unfortunately, I can't see tool at the website...can someone clue me in on viewing it?

David Ilvedson, RPT
Pacifica, CA  94044



    
                                                
    
					
                                                    

        
                                                
				
    
                                                
    
                                                    
                                                        
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  • 4.  Heavy Duty Grand Hammerhead Extracting Pliers

    Posted 07-26-2006 09:28 
    From "David Ilvedson" <ilvey@sbcglobal.net>

Belay that last post...under new tools...nice tool...

David Ilvedson, RPT
Pacifica, CA  94044



    
                                                
    
					
                                                    

        
                                                
				
    
                                                
    
                                                    
                                                        
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  • 5.  Heavy Duty Grand Hammerhead Extracting Pliers

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 07-26-2006 10:50
      |   view attached 
    From "Cy Shuster" <cy@shusterpiano.com>

Wow -- check out this toolcase!
http://www.baumgaertel-pianoteile.de/englneu0320051.htm

How neat to have a place to lay your tools at hand, other than the back of 
the keys!

--Cy--

Art. No. 52584
Paratool tool case
Finally a tool case that can also act as a support and workbench! The 
integral roller and telescoping system means that this tool case is easy to 
transport and fixed at an ergonomically ideal working height of approx. 60 
cm. Break-proof plastic shells, hard-wearing brush tool boards and a load 
capacity of up to 40 kg make this case a loyal professional assistant.
Measurement: 465 x 210 x 355 mm


  • 6.  Heavy Duty Grand Hammerhead Extracting Pliers

    Posted 07-26-2006 12:02 
    From Avery <avery1@houston.rr.com>

Cy,

Do you have any idea how much it costs? It doesn't give you any way 
to find out as far as I could see!
Is there a larger picture available?

Avery

At 11:49 AM 7/26/2006, you wrote:
>Wow -- check out this toolcase!
>http://www.baumgaertel-pianoteile.de/englneu0320051.htm
>
>How neat to have a place to lay your tools at hand, other than the 
>back of the keys!
>
>--Cy--
>
>Art. No. 52584
>Paratool tool case
>Finally a tool case that can also act as a support and workbench! 
>The integral roller and telescoping system means that this tool case 
>is easy to transport and fixed at an ergonomically ideal working 
>height of approx. 60 cm. Break-proof plastic shells, hard-wearing 
>brush tool boards and a load capacity of up to 40 kg make this case 
>a loyal professional assistant.
>Measurement: 465 x 210 x 355 mm


  • 7.  Heavy Duty Grand Hammerhead Extracting Pliers - AVERY

    Posted 07-26-2006 12:11 
    From "James H Frazee" <jimfrazee@msn.com>

It's 266.40 Euros, or about $337.04.  Plus, there'd be freight and duty, yada yada yada . . .
Jim Frazee
914.763.8689
jimfrazee@msn.com<mailto:jimfrazee@msn.com>


  • 8.  Heavy Duty Grand Hammerhead Extracting Pliers - AVERY

    Posted 07-27-2006 02:32 
    From "PIANISSIMO PIANOFORTE S.L." <patrick@pianospianissimo.com>

Hang on.... that must be the tool case you are talking about???... Yes, i
just saw it in the price list, I thought it was the pliers you were
talking about! Anyway, if you read the other emails you'll also know the
price of the pliers :)

Patrick

> It's 266.40 Euros, or about $337.04.  Plus, there'd be freight and duty,
> yada yada yada . . .
> Jim Frazee
> 914.763.8689
> jimfrazee@msn.com<mailto:jimfrazee@msn.com>
>


Patrick Hinves Ballesta
Afinador/T?cnico 610442371
PIANISSIMO PIANOFORTE S.L.


  • 9.  Heavy Duty Grand Hammerhead Extracting Pliers

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 07-26-2006 13:01 
    From "Cy Shuster" <cy@shusterpiano.com>

I just Googled it:

http://www.pathfinder-fox.co.uk/paratool.htm

http://www.radionics.ie/electronic-components-ie/22034-executive-style-tool-cases-tool-cases-abs-electricians-std-tool-case.html

David Ilvedson said it looked like one Renner sold at the Cal State Convention, and wasn't that impressed.

--Cy--
  
    
                                                
    
					
                                                    

        
                                                
				
    
                                                
    
                                                    
                                                        
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  • 10.  Heavy Duty Grand Hammerhead Extracting Pliers

    Posted 07-26-2006 11:53 
    From Avery <avery1@houston.rr.com>

Patrick,

Since everything's in German, what do we need to click on to see this?

Avery Todd

At 09:17 AM 7/26/2006, you wrote:
>John,
>
>I have attached a couple of pics of my german hammer head extracting
>pliers. They are great, as you don't have to do any effort to remove the
>heads (no need to break the glue collar either). Plus, with these you dont
>need to worry about breaking a hammer head or a shank, as you can adjust
>the "depth". I paid around 80 EUR (approx 55 GBP).
>
>You can buy it from www.baumgaertel-pianoteile.de
>
>Regards,
>
>Patrick
>
>
>
>
> >
> > A colleague of mine wants a hammerhead extractor such as one I bought
> > years ago but can't remember where.   The picture below gives an idea
> > of what the tool is like, though the quality of the tool (marked
> > 'Sargent') is far inferior to the fine original Bernard/Sargent
> > tools.  Nevertheless it does the job well.
> >
> > Can anyone tell me who now supplies this tool?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > JD
> >
> >
>
>
>Patrick Hinves Ballesta
>Afinador/T?cnico 610442371
>PIANISSIMO PIANOFORTE S.L.
>
>


  • 11.  Heavy Duty Grand Hammerhead Extracting Pliers

    Posted 07-26-2006 12:09 
    From "James H Frazee" <jimfrazee@msn.com>

Just click on the British flag in the upper left hand corner for English language.
Jim Frazee
914.763.8689
jimfrazee@msn.com<mailto:jimfrazee@msn.com>


  • 12.  Heavy Duty Grand Hammerhead Extracting Pliers

    Posted 07-26-2006 12:11 
    From Horace Greeley <hgreeley@stanford.edu>

Avery,

At 10:52 AM 7/26/2006, you wrote:
>Patrick,
>
>Since everything's in German, what do we need to click on to see this?

The British Ensign in the left hand column between the German and French ones.

Guten Tag!

HG



>Avery Todd
>
>At 09:17 AM 7/26/2006, you wrote:
>>John,
>>
>>I have attached a couple of pics of my german hammer head extracting
>>pliers. They are great, as you don't have to do any effort to remove the
>>heads (no need to break the glue collar either). Plus, with these you dont
>>need to worry about breaking a hammer head or a shank, as you can adjust
>>the "depth". I paid around 80 EUR (approx 55 GBP).
>>
>>You can buy it from www.baumgaertel-pianoteile.de
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Patrick
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> > A colleague of mine wants a hammerhead extractor such as one I bought
>> > years ago but can't remember where.   The picture below gives an idea
>> > of what the tool is like, though the quality of the tool (marked
>> > 'Sargent') is far inferior to the fine original Bernard/Sargent
>> > tools.  Nevertheless it does the job well.
>> >
>> > Can anyone tell me who now supplies this tool?
>> >
>> > Thanks.
>> >
>> > JD
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>Patrick Hinves Ballesta
>>Afinador/T?cnico 610442371
>>PIANISSIMO PIANOFORTE S.L.
>>


  • 13.  Heavy Duty Grand Hammerhead Extracting Pliers

    Posted 07-26-2006 12:25 
    From "David Ilvedson" <ilvey@sbcglobal.net>

the english flag...silly...

David Ilvedson, RPT
Pacifica, CA 94044





Original message
From: Avery
To: "Pianotech List"
Received: 7/26/2006 10:52:48 AM
Subject: Re: Heavy Duty Grand Hammerhead Extracting Pliers


Patrick,

Since everything's in German, what do we need to click on to see this? 

Avery Todd

At 09:17 AM 7/26/2006, you wrote:

John,

I have attached a couple of pics of my german hammer head extracting
pliers. They are great, as you don't have to do any effort to remove the
heads (no need to break the glue collar either). Plus, with these you dont
need to worry about breaking a hammer head or a shank, as you can adjust
the "depth". I paid around 80 EUR (approx 55 GBP).

You can buy it from www.baumgaertel-pianoteile.de

Regards,

Patrick




>
> A colleague of mine wants a hammerhead extractor such as one I bought
> years ago but can't remember where.   The picture below gives an idea
> of what the tool is like, though the quality of the tool (marked
> 'Sargent') is far inferior to the fine original Bernard/Sargent
> tools.  Nevertheless it does the job well.
>
> Can anyone tell me who now supplies this tool?
>
> Thanks.
>
> JD
>
>


Patrick Hinves Ballesta
Afinador/T?cnico 610442371
PIANISSIMO PIANOFORTE S.L.


  • 14.  Heavy Duty Grand Hammerhead Extracting Pliers

    Posted 07-26-2006 16:36 
    From Avery <avery1@houston.rr.com>

Duh. Where's that wet noodle when one really needs it?????? :-D

But you still have to have a user name and 
password to access the price list!???

Thanks, James, for the price.

Avery

At 01:24 PM 7/26/2006, you wrote:
>the english flag...silly...
>
>David Ilvedson, RPT
>Pacifica, CA 94044
>
>
>
>----------
>Original message
>From: Avery
>To: "Pianotech List"
>Received: 7/26/2006 10:52:48 AM
>Subject: Re: Heavy Duty Grand Hammerhead Extracting Pliers
>
>Patrick,
>
>Since everything's in German, what do we need to click on to see this?
>
>Avery Todd
>
>At 09:17 AM 7/26/2006, you wrote:
>>John,
>>
>>I have attached a couple of pics of my german hammer head extracting
>>pliers. They are great, as you don't have to do any effort to remove the
>>heads (no need to break the glue collar either). Plus, with these you dont
>>need to worry about breaking a hammer head or a shank, as you can adjust
>>the "depth". I paid around 80 EUR (approx 55 GBP).
>>
>>You can buy it from www.baumgaertel-pianoteile.de
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Patrick
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> > A colleague of mine wants a hammerhead extractor such as one I bought
>> > years ago but can't remember where.   The picture below gives an idea
>> > of what the tool is like, though the quality of the tool (marked
>> > 'Sargent') is far inferior to the fine original Bernard/Sargent
>> > tools.  Nevertheless it does the job well.
>> >
>> > Can anyone tell me who now supplies this tool?
>> >
>> > Thanks.
>> >
>> > JD
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>Patrick Hinves Ballesta
>>Afinador/T?cnico 610442371
>>PIANISSIMO PIANOFORTE S.L.
>>


  • 15.  Heavy Duty Grand Hammerhead Extracting Pliers

    Posted 07-26-2006 18:31 
    From "James H Frazee" <jimfrazee@msn.com>

Just send them an email and they'll send it to you tomorrow morning (their time).  
Jim Frazee
914.763.8689
jimfrazee@msn.com<mailto:jimfrazee@msn.com>


  • 16.  Heavy Duty Grand Hammerhead Extracting Pliers

    Posted 07-26-2006 12:36
      |   view attached 
    From John Delacour <JD@Pianomaker.co.uk>

At 4:17 pm +0200 26/7/06, PIANISSIMO PIANOFORTE S.L. wrote:

>I have attached a couple of pics of my german hammer head extracting
>pliers.
>
>


I've now had a look at my Baumgaertel catalogue and it doesn't seem 
to be there.  Catalogue No. 50050 (light model - Euros 54.65) is very 
different and no others are listed .  I must ask them whether they 
still supply this model.


JD


  • 17.  Heavy Duty Grand Hammerhead Extracting Pliers

    Posted 07-27-2006 02:25 
    From "PIANISSIMO PIANOFORTE S.L." <patrick@pianospianissimo.com>

John,

It's actually a new model so that's why is not in their catalogue, but in
their latest pricelist is article number:

50073	Hammer shank extractor for Grand Piano+Upright**, heavy
duty		pc.	84,45	@
	**By using for Upright Hammers,the heads will be punched

84.45 EUR (approx 58 GBP)

They also do two other more expensive types but I think this one is the
most effective.

Regards,

Patrick







> At 4:17 pm +0200 26/7/06, PIANISSIMO PIANOFORTE S.L. wrote:
>
>>I have attached a couple of pics of my german hammer head extracting
>>pliers.
>>
>>
>
>
> I've now had a look at my Baumgaertel catalogue and it doesn't seem
> to be there.  Catalogue No. 50050 (light model - Euros 54.65) is very
> different and no others are listed .  I must ask them whether they
> still supply this model.
>
>
> JD
>
>
>


Patrick Hinves Ballesta
Afinador/T?cnico 610442371
PIANISSIMO PIANOFORTE S.L.


  • 18.  Heavy Duty Grand Hammerhead Extracting Pliers

    Posted 07-27-2006 02:54 
    From John Delacour <JD@Pianomaker.co.uk>

At 10:24 am +0200 27/7/06, PIANISSIMO PIANOFORTE S.L. wrote:

>It's actually a new model so that's why is not in their catalogue, but in
>their latest pricelist is article number:
>
>50073	Hammer shank extractor for Grand Piano+Upright**, heavy
>duty		pc.	84,45	@
>
>84.45 EUR (approx 58 GBP)

...plus the dreaded 16%, of course :-)    Thanks for the number.  I 
see it's in my price list but was not sure if this was the one.  I 
wrote to them this morning.

>	**By using for Upright Hammers,the heads will be punched

By this they mean, in English, that it can only be used to extract 
upright piano heads that are bored all the way through (eg. Lipp) and 
not that the apprentice will be severely punished if he tries to use 
the tool on uprights :-)

JD


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