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From Gary <gmcc@charter.net>

Going to tune a Mason & Hamlin grand Thursday and the bolts to attach 
the lyre were lost.  Anyone know the size, or maybe suggest a
range of sizes to take with me?  I don't know if it's the original M&H 
or the Aeolian.
Thanks for any help.
Gary

From "Mark S Burgett" <markb@pianodisc.com>

Normally it is 3/4" but I would take an adjustable just in case.

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org]On
Behalf Of Gary
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 7:13 PM
To: pianotech@ptg.org
Subject: [pianotech] lyre bolts


Going to tune a Mason & Hamlin grand Thursday and the bolts to attach 
the lyre were lost.  Anyone know the size, or maybe suggest a
range of sizes to take with me?  I don't know if it's the original M&H 
or the Aeolian.
Thanks for any help.
Gary

From "Roger@Integra.net" <rgable@integra.net>

Gary,
Take the following and you will be almost certain to have the correct bolt:

3/8" x 16
1/2" x 20
1/2" x 13
Mark,
I believe you are in error.  In all my research, I haven't come across a 
3/4" diameter bolt for a lyre. It's incredibly big. Did you mean 1/2"?

Roger Gable
Gable Piano
Moondog Mfg.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gary" <gmcc@charter.net>
To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 7:13 PM
Subject: [pianotech] lyre bolts


> Going to tune a Mason & Hamlin grand Thursday and the bolts to attach the 
> lyre were lost.  Anyone know the size, or maybe suggest a
> range of sizes to take with me?  I don't know if it's the original M&H or 
> the Aeolian.
> Thanks for any help.
> Gary
>
> 

From Gary <gmcc@charter.net>

Thanks for all the answers!
gary

On 6/8/2011 10:17 AM, Roger@Integra.net wrote:
> Gary,
> Take the following and you will be almost certain to have the correct 
> bolt:
>
> 3/8" x 16
> 1/2" x 20
> 1/2" x 13
> Mark,
> I believe you are in error.  In all my research, I haven't come across 
> a 3/4" diameter bolt for a lyre. It's incredibly big. Did you mean 1/2"?
>
> Roger Gable
> Gable Piano
> Moondog Mfg.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary" <gmcc@charter.net>
> To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 7:13 PM
> Subject: [pianotech] lyre bolts
>
>
>> Going to tune a Mason & Hamlin grand Thursday and the bolts to attach 
>> the lyre were lost.  Anyone know the size, or maybe suggest a
>> range of sizes to take with me?  I don't know if it's the original 
>> M&H or the Aeolian.
>> Thanks for any help.
>> Gary
>>
>>
>
>

From Paul T Williams <pwilliams4@unlnotes.unl.edu>

Our old M&H grands here at UNL use 1/2".  3/8 might be too wimpy for M&H. 
Perhaps an Aeolian might. 

Good Luck!

Paul 



From:
"Roger@Integra.net" <rgable@integra.net>
To:
<pianotech@ptg.org>
Date:
06/08/2011 10:17 AM
Subject:
Re: [pianotech] lyre bolts



Gary,
Take the following and you will be almost certain to have the correct 
bolt:

3/8" x 16
1/2" x 20
1/2" x 13
Mark,
I believe you are in error.  In all my research, I haven't come across a 
3/4" diameter bolt for a lyre. It's incredibly big. Did you mean 1/2"?

Roger Gable
Gable Piano
Moondog Mfg.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gary" <gmcc@charter.net>
To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 7:13 PM
Subject: [pianotech] lyre bolts


> Going to tune a Mason & Hamlin grand Thursday and the bolts to attach 
the 
> lyre were lost.  Anyone know the size, or maybe suggest a
> range of sizes to take with me?  I don't know if it's the original M&H 
or 
> the Aeolian.
> Thanks for any help.
> Gary
>
> 

From "Mark S Burgett" <markb@pianodisc.com>

Roger,

Sorry, I was thinking of the wrench size. Oops!

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org]On
Behalf Of Roger@Integra.net
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 8:18 AM
To: pianotech@ptg.org
Subject: Re: [pianotech] lyre bolts


Gary,
Take the following and you will be almost certain to have the correct bolt:

3/8" x 16
1/2" x 20
1/2" x 13
Mark,
I believe you are in error.  In all my research, I haven't come across a 
3/4" diameter bolt for a lyre. It's incredibly big. Did you mean 1/2"?

Roger Gable
Gable Piano
Moondog Mfg.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gary" <gmcc@charter.net>
To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 7:13 PM
Subject: [pianotech] lyre bolts


> Going to tune a Mason & Hamlin grand Thursday and the bolts to attach the 
> lyre were lost.  Anyone know the size, or maybe suggest a
> range of sizes to take with me?  I don't know if it's the original M&H or 
> the Aeolian.
> Thanks for any help.
> Gary
>
> 

From "David Porritt" <dmporritt@gmail.com>

Roger:

Also, if it is a new production M&H it has an odd length!  I had to order
two from "Fastenal" to replace some that some movers lost.  I think they
were 2-3/4" long.  No one around here had them in stock.  

dp

-----Original Message-----
From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf
Of Mark S Burgett
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 2:44 PM
To: pianotech@ptg.org
Subject: Re: [pianotech] lyre bolts

Roger,

Sorry, I was thinking of the wrench size. Oops!

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org]On
Behalf Of Roger@Integra.net
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 8:18 AM
To: pianotech@ptg.org
Subject: Re: [pianotech] lyre bolts


Gary,
Take the following and you will be almost certain to have the correct bolt:

3/8" x 16
1/2" x 20
1/2" x 13
Mark,
I believe you are in error.  In all my research, I haven't come across a 
3/4" diameter bolt for a lyre. It's incredibly big. Did you mean 1/2"?

Roger Gable
Gable Piano
Moondog Mfg.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gary" <gmcc@charter.net>
To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 7:13 PM
Subject: [pianotech] lyre bolts


> Going to tune a Mason & Hamlin grand Thursday and the bolts to attach the 
> lyre were lost.  Anyone know the size, or maybe suggest a
> range of sizes to take with me?  I don't know if it's the original M&H or 
> the Aeolian.
> Thanks for any help.
> Gary
>
> 

From Isaac Sadigursky <irs.pianos@earthlink.net>

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Isaac Sadigursky <isaacspianoservice@gmail.com>
> Date: June 8, 2011 7:40:40 PM PDT
> To: Isaac Sadigursky <irs.pianos@earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: [pianotech] lyre bolts
>
> Hi, Gary!
> I will also suggest to have a few extra pair of FLAT and LOCK  
> Washers of appropriate diameter.
> In case the replacement bolt is a little too long , comes through  
> the keybed and interferes with shifting-install washers as needed.
> I have a few extra pairs of original Mason-Hamlin 'Butterfly" or  
> "Wing' bolts and from different periods they come in slightly  
> different lengh to acommodate different thickness of the Keybed.
> Good luck!
> isaac
> On Jun 8, 2011, at 8:17 AM, Roger@Integra.net wrote:
>
>> Gary,
>> Take the following and you will be almost certain to have the  
>> correct bolt:
>>
>> 3/8" x 16
>> 1/2" x 20
>> 1/2" x 13
>> Mark,
>> I believe you are in error.  In all my research, I haven't come  
>> across a 3/4" diameter bolt for a lyre. It's incredibly big. Did  
>> you mean 1/2"?
>>
>> Roger Gable
>> Gable Piano
>> Moondog Mfg.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary" <gmcc@charter.net>
>> To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 7:13 PM
>> Subject: [pianotech] lyre bolts
>>
>>
>>> Going to tune a Mason & Hamlin grand Thursday and the bolts to  
>>> attach the lyre were lost.  Anyone know the size, or maybe suggest a
>>> range of sizes to take with me?  I don't know if it's the original  
>>> M&H or the Aeolian.
>>> Thanks for any help.
>>> Gary
>>>
>>
>

From Gary <gmcc@charter.net>

Good idea Isaac, thank you.
Gary

On 6/8/2011 9:42 PM, Isaac Sadigursky wrote:
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>> *From: *Isaac Sadigursky <isaacspianoservice@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:isaacspianoservice@gmail.com>>
>> *Date: *June 8, 2011 7:40:40 PM PDT
>> *To: *Isaac Sadigursky <irs.pianos@earthlink.net 
>> <mailto:irs.pianos@earthlink.net>>
>> *Subject: **Re: [pianotech] lyre bolts*
>>
>> Hi, Gary!
>> I will also suggest to have a few extra pair of FLAT and LOCK Washers 
>> of appropriate diameter.
>> In case the replacement bolt is a little too long , comes through the 
>> keybed and interferes with shifting-install washers as needed.
>> I have a few extra pairs of original Mason-Hamlin 'Butterfly" or 
>> "Wing' bolts and from different periods they come in slightly 
>> different lengh to acommodate different thickness of the Keybed.
>> Good luck!
>> isaac
>> On Jun 8, 2011, at 8:17 AM, Roger@Integra.net 
>> <mailto:Roger@Integra.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Gary,
>>> Take the following and you will be almost certain to have the 
>>> correct bolt:
>>>
>>> 3/8" x 16
>>> 1/2" x 20
>>> 1/2" x 13
>>> Mark,
>>> I believe you are in error.  In all my research, I haven't come 
>>> across a 3/4" diameter bolt for a lyre. It's incredibly big. Did you 
>>> mean 1/2"?
>>>
>>> Roger Gable
>>> Gable Piano
>>> Moondog Mfg.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary" <gmcc@charter.net 
>>> <mailto:gmcc@charter.net>>
>>> To: <pianotech@ptg.org <mailto:pianotech@ptg.org>>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 7:13 PM
>>> Subject: [pianotech] lyre bolts
>>>
>>>
>>>> Going to tune a Mason & Hamlin grand Thursday and the bolts to 
>>>> attach the lyre were lost.  Anyone know the size, or maybe suggest a
>>>> range of sizes to take with me?  I don't know if it's the original 
>>>> M&H or the Aeolian.
>>>> Thanks for any help.
>>>> Gary
>>>>
>>>
>>
>