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  • 1.  Dampp-chaser/Steam Conundru

    Posted 05-28-2018 00:08
    m,
    I have been studying the effects of steam on Softwood. My understanding from the various sources is that steam is a specialty kiln drying practice. Even in my Agricultural Handbook no. 528 (1978) Steam is used to dry lumber (Chapter 6  High Temperature Drying).Sounds counter-intuitve, but I suppose it opens the pores so the water can leave the wood quicker.

    Makes you wonder if the dampp- chaser heater bar/ pad =steam  is counter productive?
    -chris
    #caveman

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  • 2.  RE: Dampp-chaser/Steam Conundru

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 05-28-2018 00:47
    I think it depends. Damp-Chaser uses "warm air humidity." Other humidifiers use "cold air humidity." Does this make a difference?

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  • 3.  RE: Dampp-chaser/Steam Conundru

    Posted 05-28-2018 18:15
    Chris,

    You are confusing steam with evaporation.  Water does not turn from liquid into a gas (steam) until it reaches 212deg f at sea level. Plenty of water evaporates at temperatures less than 212f. The difference between the evaporated water and steam, is that the evaporated water is still water, but it is just very tiny droplets. On the other hand steam is a gas. It has gone through a energy intensive change of phase from liquid to gas...and often then back to water. The reason steam is used in a kiln is that steam gives off its useful heat at a constant temp, at the phase change.  

    DC heater bar may reach something like a max of 140f, significantly shy of the 212f threshold. There is no steam involved.

    The DC conditions partially by evaporation, but only with the intent of adjusting RH in the barrier layer of air, a molecular layer of air directly touching the soundboard. The heat bars, being radiant heat sources, turn the soundboard itself into a very large, very gentle radiant heat source. As a radiant heat source, both  the bars and the board can then condition the all important barrier layer of air on both sides of the board...adjusting the RH of that barrier layer as necessary to maintain 42%rh. It works, as long as air currents in the room do not disturb the barrier layer.

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  • 4.  RE: Dampp-chaser/Steam Conundru

    Posted 05-28-2018 22:29
    Jim,
    Thank you for the nice explanation.
    Just got back from Ruby Falls, Quite amazing!!! Tallest underground waterfall in the U.S. 
    Although i would rather have a tour guide that would just stop talking. Don't people appreciate silence anymore in this noisy world? It's a cave for pete's sake!
    Off to Jack Daniels Distillery next. Might have to get a designated driver after that tour!!!
    -chris
    #caveman



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