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I have used Elmer's Slide-All for some time. It is a dry spray teflon based lubricant.  I recently found out it is no longer being made. [I called the company to confirm this.] There was a short thread in 1998 comparing Elmer's Slide-All with Prolube and Permelon, but that was minimally helpful. What lubricants do you use?  And Why? Thanks,

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Sheffey Gregory, RPT
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Ivory soap, micro fine Teflon powder, Supply88's liquid (don't remember what it's called, prolube, VJ lube.

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Larry Messerly, RPT
Bringing Harmony to Homes
www.lacrossepianotuning.com
ljmesserly@gmail.com
928-899-7292
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Original Message:
Sent: 06-06-2020 09:10
From: Sheffey Gregory
Subject: Elmer's Slide-All

I have used Elmer's Slide-All for some time. It is a dry spray teflon based lubricant.  I recently found out it is no longer being made. [I called the company to confirm this.] There was a short thread in 1998 comparing Elmer's Slide-All with Prolube and Permelon, but that was minimally helpful. What lubricants do you use?  And Why? Thanks,

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Sheffey Gregory, RPT
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Counter Bearing Lube (CBL)

:-)

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Regards,

Jon Page
mailto:jonpage@comcast.net
http://www.pianocapecod.com
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Original Message:
Sent: 06-06-2020 09:48
From: Larry Messerly
Subject: Elmer's Slide-All

Ivory soap, micro fine Teflon powder, Supply88's liquid (don't remember what it's called, prolube, VJ lube.

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Larry Messerly, RPT
Bringing Harmony to Homes
www.lacrossepianotuning.com
ljmesserly@gmail.com
928-899-7292

Original Message:
Sent: 06-06-2020 09:10
From: Sheffey Gregory
Subject: Elmer's Slide-All

I have used Elmer's Slide-All for some time. It is a dry spray teflon based lubricant.  I recently found out it is no longer being made. [I called the company to confirm this.] There was a short thread in 1998 comparing Elmer's Slide-All with Prolube and Permelon, but that was minimally helpful. What lubricants do you use?  And Why? Thanks,

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Sheffey Gregory, RPT
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I have not tried it but at conventions many techs have bragged about SailKote:
https://www.mclubemarine.com/sailkote/

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Blaine Hebert
Duarte CA
626-795-5170
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Original Message:
Sent: 06-06-2020 09:10
From: Sheffey Gregory
Subject: Elmer's Slide-All

I have used Elmer's Slide-All for some time. It is a dry spray teflon based lubricant.  I recently found out it is no longer being made. [I called the company to confirm this.] There was a short thread in 1998 comparing Elmer's Slide-All with Prolube and Permelon, but that was minimally helpful. What lubricants do you use?  And Why? Thanks,

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Sheffey Gregory, RPT
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I've used SailKote for years. It's the same as McLube 1725 and 444 sold by the supply houses. I get it by the quart at Westmarine and carry it in a glass perfume bottle I got from Ford Piano Supply years ago. I apply it with an artist brush as I'm generally against spraying things around the piano. A quart lasts me 2 or 3 years.

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Karl Roeder
Pompano Beach FL
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Original Message:
Sent: 06-07-2020 02:50
From: Blaine Hebert
Subject: Elmer's Slide-All

I have not tried it but at conventions many techs have bragged about SailKote:
https://www.mclubemarine.com/sailkote/

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Blaine Hebert
Duarte CA
626-795-5170

Original Message:
Sent: 06-06-2020 09:10
From: Sheffey Gregory
Subject: Elmer's Slide-All

I have used Elmer's Slide-All for some time. It is a dry spray teflon based lubricant.  I recently found out it is no longer being made. [I called the company to confirm this.] There was a short thread in 1998 comparing Elmer's Slide-All with Prolube and Permelon, but that was minimally helpful. What lubricants do you use?  And Why? Thanks,

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Sheffey Gregory, RPT
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Thanks everyone!  I had not even heard of SailKote, so may give it a try.

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Sheffey Gregory, RPT
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Original Message:
Sent: 06-07-2020 11:13
From: Karl Roeder
Subject: Elmer's Slide-All

I've used SailKote for years. It's the same as McLube 1725 and 444 sold by the supply houses. I get it by the quart at Westmarine and carry it in a glass perfume bottle I got from Ford Piano Supply years ago. I apply it with an artist brush as I'm generally against spraying things around the piano. A quart lasts me 2 or 3 years.

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Karl Roeder
Pompano Beach FL

Original Message:
Sent: 06-07-2020 02:50
From: Blaine Hebert
Subject: Elmer's Slide-All

I have not tried it but at conventions many techs have bragged about SailKote:
https://www.mclubemarine.com/sailkote/

------------------------------
Blaine Hebert
Duarte CA
626-795-5170

Original Message:
Sent: 06-06-2020 09:10
From: Sheffey Gregory
Subject: Elmer's Slide-All

I have used Elmer's Slide-All for some time. It is a dry spray teflon based lubricant.  I recently found out it is no longer being made. [I called the company to confirm this.] There was a short thread in 1998 comparing Elmer's Slide-All with Prolube and Permelon, but that was minimally helpful. What lubricants do you use?  And Why? Thanks,

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Sheffey Gregory, RPT
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For counter bearings I use Jon Page's CBL.  Great stuff.  I have a Westmarine just a few miles away. I will have to go there and pick up some Sailcoat to try.  Please give proven suggestions as to where nest to use it. 

Pwg

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Peter Grey
Stratham NH
603-686-2395
pianodoctor57@gmail.com
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Original Message:
Sent: 06-10-2020 17:36
From: Sheffey Gregory
Subject: Elmer's Slide-All

Thanks everyone!  I had not even heard of SailKote, so may give it a try.

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Sheffey Gregory, RPT

Original Message:
Sent: 06-07-2020 11:13
From: Karl Roeder
Subject: Elmer's Slide-All

I've used SailKote for years. It's the same as McLube 1725 and 444 sold by the supply houses. I get it by the quart at Westmarine and carry it in a glass perfume bottle I got from Ford Piano Supply years ago. I apply it with an artist brush as I'm generally against spraying things around the piano. A quart lasts me 2 or 3 years.

------------------------------
Karl Roeder
Pompano Beach FL

Original Message:
Sent: 06-07-2020 02:50
From: Blaine Hebert
Subject: Elmer's Slide-All

I have not tried it but at conventions many techs have bragged about SailKote:
https://www.mclubemarine.com/sailkote/

------------------------------
Blaine Hebert
Duarte CA
626-795-5170

Original Message:
Sent: 06-06-2020 09:10
From: Sheffey Gregory
Subject: Elmer's Slide-All

I have used Elmer's Slide-All for some time. It is a dry spray teflon based lubricant.  I recently found out it is no longer being made. [I called the company to confirm this.] There was a short thread in 1998 comparing Elmer's Slide-All with Prolube and Permelon, but that was minimally helpful. What lubricants do you use?  And Why? Thanks,

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Sheffey Gregory, RPT
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Sailkote is a dry film PTFE  lubricant just like  Mac 444 or McLube 1725. The best use I have had for it is lubricating key pins and key frames. Also good on capstans and drop screws( the part that contacts the repetition lever not the top). I have 20+ years of using it on key pins in high use pianos and if it's done when the instrument is new the key bushings almost never wear out. It's also great for the pedal rods where they go through the felt bushed keeper on a grand lyre. If you lubricate the action return spring and the stop block felt on a grand you will reduce the effort required to remove the action considerably. It's important to remember that it is not a penetrating lubricant so don't put a drop of it on the outside of something and hope it gets inside where you need less friction. It won't cure gout or prevent Covid-19 but it's still pretty useful stuff.

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Karl Roeder
Pompano Beach FL
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Original Message:
Sent: 06-11-2020 06:33
From: Peter Grey
Subject: Elmer's Slide-All

For counter bearings I use Jon Page's CBL.  Great stuff.  I have a Westmarine just a few miles away. I will have to go there and pick up some Sailcoat to try.  Please give proven suggestions as to where nest to use it.

Pwg

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Peter Grey
Stratham NH
603-686-2395
pianodoctor57@gmail.com

Original Message:
Sent: 06-10-2020 17:36
From: Sheffey Gregory
Subject: Elmer's Slide-All

Thanks everyone!  I had not even heard of SailKote, so may give it a try.

------------------------------
Sheffey Gregory, RPT

Original Message:
Sent: 06-07-2020 11:13
From: Karl Roeder
Subject: Elmer's Slide-All

I've used SailKote for years. It's the same as McLube 1725 and 444 sold by the supply houses. I get it by the quart at Westmarine and carry it in a glass perfume bottle I got from Ford Piano Supply years ago. I apply it with an artist brush as I'm generally against spraying things around the piano. A quart lasts me 2 or 3 years.

------------------------------
Karl Roeder
Pompano Beach FL

Original Message:
Sent: 06-07-2020 02:50
From: Blaine Hebert
Subject: Elmer's Slide-All

I have not tried it but at conventions many techs have bragged about SailKote:
https://www.mclubemarine.com/sailkote/

------------------------------
Blaine Hebert
Duarte CA
626-795-5170

Original Message:
Sent: 06-06-2020 09:10
From: Sheffey Gregory
Subject: Elmer's Slide-All

I have used Elmer's Slide-All for some time. It is a dry spray teflon based lubricant.  I recently found out it is no longer being made. [I called the company to confirm this.] There was a short thread in 1998 comparing Elmer's Slide-All with Prolube and Permelon, but that was minimally helpful. What lubricants do you use?  And Why? Thanks,

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Sheffey Gregory, RPT
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I'm just throwing this in the mix: I don't use anything aerosol for my own reasons. I'd consider using an aerosol IF the propellant was compressed air. Because of this, my work is sometimes harder & I don't always get results as good as others who use these products, but I still can get pretty good results with all the non aerosol products listed here. Just remember that many of these products can damage a finish if accidentally applied & anything that can damage a finish isn't good for you. Wear a mask. ;-)

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Maggie Jusiel
Athens, WV
(304)952-8615
mags@timandmaggie.net
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Original Message:
Sent: 06-11-2020 09:28
From: Karl Roeder
Subject: Elmer's Slide-All

Sailkote is a dry film PTFE  lubricant just like  Mac 444 or McLube 1725. The best use I have had for it is lubricating key pins and key frames. Also good on capstans and drop screws( the part that contacts the repetition lever not the top). I have 20+ years of using it on key pins in high use pianos and if it's done when the instrument is new the key bushings almost never wear out. It's also great for the pedal rods where they go through the felt bushed keeper on a grand lyre. If you lubricate the action return spring and the stop block felt on a grand you will reduce the effort required to remove the action considerably. It's important to remember that it is not a penetrating lubricant so don't put a drop of it on the outside of something and hope it gets inside where you need less friction. It won't cure gout or prevent Covid-19 but it's still pretty useful stuff.

------------------------------
Karl Roeder
Pompano Beach FL

Original Message:
Sent: 06-11-2020 06:33
From: Peter Grey
Subject: Elmer's Slide-All

For counter bearings I use Jon Page's CBL.  Great stuff.  I have a Westmarine just a few miles away. I will have to go there and pick up some Sailcoat to try.  Please give proven suggestions as to where nest to use it.

Pwg

------------------------------
Peter Grey
Stratham NH
603-686-2395
pianodoctor57@gmail.com

Original Message:
Sent: 06-10-2020 17:36
From: Sheffey Gregory
Subject: Elmer's Slide-All

Thanks everyone!  I had not even heard of SailKote, so may give it a try.

------------------------------
Sheffey Gregory, RPT

Original Message:
Sent: 06-07-2020 11:13
From: Karl Roeder
Subject: Elmer's Slide-All

I've used SailKote for years. It's the same as McLube 1725 and 444 sold by the supply houses. I get it by the quart at Westmarine and carry it in a glass perfume bottle I got from Ford Piano Supply years ago. I apply it with an artist brush as I'm generally against spraying things around the piano. A quart lasts me 2 or 3 years.

------------------------------
Karl Roeder
Pompano Beach FL

Original Message:
Sent: 06-07-2020 02:50
From: Blaine Hebert
Subject: Elmer's Slide-All

I have not tried it but at conventions many techs have bragged about SailKote:
https://www.mclubemarine.com/sailkote/

------------------------------
Blaine Hebert
Duarte CA
626-795-5170

Original Message:
Sent: 06-06-2020 09:10
From: Sheffey Gregory
Subject: Elmer's Slide-All

I have used Elmer's Slide-All for some time. It is a dry spray teflon based lubricant.  I recently found out it is no longer being made. [I called the company to confirm this.] There was a short thread in 1998 comparing Elmer's Slide-All with Prolube and Permelon, but that was minimally helpful. What lubricants do you use?  And Why? Thanks,

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Sheffey Gregory, RPT
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