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  • 1.  piano sales scam

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 13 days ago
    Hello List,
    Can anyone provide the details of the scam that was talked about some time back that featured a private individual trying to get rid of a piano that had belonged to a deceased relative, was in great shape, and needed to go to a good home?  I seem to remember something about this individual (and similar individuals) targeted academic communities, but I have no recollection of a description of how the "scam" was to play out in the end.

    I'm asking because someone is emailing multiple people here in the university music and arts community regarding a small grand, in "great shape", that belonged to a deceased uncle in Oklahoma that could be shipped all the way here to California, if only the new owner would contact the moving company and make "rerouting" arrangements, as the piano is already destined to make some sort of move to this state.
    Does any of this sound familiar?  The whole scenario has raised some suspicions here.

    Thanks,
    Greg Granoff
    Humboldt State University


  • 2.  RE: piano sales scam

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 13 days ago

    Hi Greg.

     

    This has been going on now for a few months.  Somebody mass-emails telling you about a free Yamaha or Steinway grand in excellent shape to give away because somebody died and wants it gone. 

     

    They tell you they will deliver if you pre-pay the delivery fees before you even see it. The moving company or piano seems to be Kentucky or Tenn. They wont deliver without prior delivery fees, and then Presto! No piano!

     

    I think most of we CAUT's have caught on. I had to tell most of our faculty, even our Dean, it is a scam. They all got the email too.

     

    I answered a couple of them to find out more about the piano and who I could have come inspect it. No answer. One actually answered saying "you mean the piano hasn't been delivered yet?  "  Got ya, I said, you scammers. We're on to you......no response.

     

    Run away!  Nothing is free my friend.

     

    Paul






  • 3.  RE: piano sales scam

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 13 days ago
    Thanks Paul!
    This is kind of what I suspected it was all about.
    Confirmation much appreciated.   I'll make sure everyone around here knows.

    Greg





  • 4.  RE: piano sales scam

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 13 days ago
    Every time I get one of these now I send them back a scathing reply that includes "fraud" and a suggestion where to put it
     
    Teri
     
     
    Thanks Paul!This is kind of what I suspected it was all about.Confirmation much appreciated. I'll make sure everyone around here knows. Greg -posted to the "CAUT" community

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    Gregory Granoff
    Sep 13, 2021 12:32 PM
    Gregory Granoff
    Thanks Paul!
    This is kind of what I suspected it was all about.
    Confirmation much appreciated.   I'll make sure everyone around here knows.
     
    Greg


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    Sent: 9/13/2021 12:21:00 PM
    From: Paul Williams
    Subject: RE: piano sales scam

    Hi Greg.

     

    This has been going on now for a few months.  Somebody mass-emails telling you about a free Yamaha or Steinway grand in excellent shape to give away because somebody died and wants it gone. 

     

    They tell you they will deliver if you pre-pay the delivery fees before you even see it. The moving company or piano seems to be Kentucky or Tenn. They wont deliver without prior delivery fees, and then Presto! No piano!

     

    I think most of we CAUT's have caught on. I had to tell most of our faculty, even our Dean, it is a scam. They all got the email too.

     

    I answered a couple of them to find out more about the piano and who I could have come inspect it. No answer. One actually answered saying "you mean the piano hasn't been delivered yet?  "  Got ya, I said, you scammers. We're on to you.....no response.

     

    Run away!  Nothing is free my friend.

     

    Paul






     
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  • 5.  RE: piano sales scam

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 13 days ago
    Hi Greg,

    All that people need to know is that there is a wave of "deceased uncles out of state", and that as soon as you ask to have a local tech examine the piano, the lead goes dead.

    Bill Ballard
        R.P.T., New Hampshire Chpt.
    Piano Technicians Guild, Inc.
    wbps@vermontel.net

    "Our lives contain 
    a thousand springs
      and dies if one be gone
    Strange that a harp of a thousand strings
      should keep in tune so long."
        ...........Dr. Watts, "The Continental Harmony,1774"
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  • 6.  RE: piano sales scam

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 12 days ago
    I got a new one this morning from "Tony Nasvik" of Mark Anthony Homes:  markanthonyhomes.com in WI. Their website looks quite legit. Here's the phone number:  715-760-0188. Here's the text of the message:
     
    "Good Day,
     
    Mrs. Laurie Keller is downsizing and looking to give away her late dad's piano to a loving home. The Piano is a Steinway Grand Piano used like new. I will not be checking this email often you can text her to indicate your interest on her private phone number 423-436-5330 to arrange inspection and delivery with a moving company
     
    Regards."
     
    I have half a mind to call the company to tell them "Tony" has involved them in a fraudulent scheme. Anybody want to take that on?
     
    Teri
     
     
    Hi Greg, All that people need to know is that there is a wave of "deceased uncles out of state", and that as soon as you ask to have a local tech...

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    William Ballard
    Sep 14, 2021 7:12 AM
    William Ballard
    Hi Greg,
     
    All that people need to know is that there is a wave of "deceased uncles out of state", and that as soon as you ask to have a local tech examine the piano, the lead goes dead.

    Bill Ballard
       R.P.T., New Hampshire Chpt.
    Piano Technicians Guild, Inc.
    wbps@vermontel.net" style="color: #000000">wbps@vermontel.net
     
    "Our lives contain
    a thousand springs
      and dies if one be gone
    Strange that a harp of a thousand strings
      should keep in tune so long."
        ...........Dr. Watts, "The Continental Harmony,1774"
    +++++++++++++++++++++
     


     


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    Original Message:
    Sent: 9/13/2021 12:11:00 PM
    From: Gregory Granoff
    Subject: piano sales scam

    Hello List,
    Can anyone provide the details of the scam that was talked about some time back that featured a private individual trying to get rid of a piano that had belonged to a deceased relative, was in great shape, and needed to go to a good home?  I seem to remember something about this individual (and similar individuals) targeted academic communities, but I have no recollection of a description of how the "scam" was to play out in the end.
     
    I'm asking because someone is emailing multiple people here in the university music and arts community regarding a small grand, in "great shape", that belonged to a deceased uncle in Oklahoma that could be shipped all the way here to California, if only the new owner would contact the moving company and make "rerouting" arrangements, as the piano is already destined to make some sort of move to this state.
    Does any of this sound familiar?  The whole scenario has raised some suspicions here.
     
    Thanks,
    Greg Granoff
    Humboldt State University



     
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  • 7.  RE: piano sales scam

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 12 days ago

    I got this too. I replied one word..."scam"

     






  • 8.  RE: piano sales scam

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 12 days ago

    423 is a Tennisee number.  That's where the "movers" are supposedly.  Total crap. So you call whoever this is and they just play the roll of the lady wanting to get rid of the piano.

    Run away. I don't know why they keep trying to get us CAUT's!  We know what's going on.

    P






  • 9.  RE: piano sales scam

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 12 days ago
    Other than warning our individual communities of these scams, I suggest the best way to deal with these is to report them to the FTC.  https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/#/
    If enough people report it, perhaps the feds will actually look into it and shut down the scum.  BTW, I did call Tony Nasvic. Poor guy is getting a lot of phone calls - so I suggest no more calls from us :)

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    Rick Florence
    Gilbert AZ
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  • 10.  RE: piano sales scam

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 12 days ago
    Thanks Rick, on all counts...
     
    Teri
     
     
    Other than warning our individual communities of these scams, I suggest the best way to deal with these is to report them to the FTC.  reportfraud..

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    Rick Florence
    Sep 14, 2021 12:58 PM
    Rick Florence
    Other than warning our individual communities of these scams, I suggest the best way to deal with these is to report them to the FTC.  reportfraud.ftc.gov/#
    If enough people report it, perhaps the feds will actually look into it and shut down the scum.  BTW, I did call Tony Nasvic. Poor guy is getting a lot of phone calls - so I suggest no more calls from us :)

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    Rick Florence
    Gilbert AZ
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    Sent: 09-14-2021 12:13
    From: Teri Meredyth
    Subject: piano sales scam

    I got a new one this morning from "Tony Nasvik" of Mark Anthony Homes:  markanthonyhomes.com in WI. Their website looks quite legit. Here's the phone number:  715-760-0188. Here's the text of the message:
     
    "Good Day,
     
    Mrs. Laurie Keller is downsizing and looking to give away her late dad's piano to a loving home. The Piano is a Steinway Grand Piano used like new. I will not be checking this email often you can text her to indicate your interest on her private phone number 423-436-5330 to arrange inspection and delivery with a moving company
     
    Regards."
     
    I have half a mind to call the company to tell them "Tony" has involved them in a fraudulent scheme. Anybody want to take that on?
     
    Teri
     
     
    Hi Greg, All that people need to know is that there is a wave of "deceased uncles out of state", and that as soon as you ask to have a local tech...

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    William Ballard
    Sep 14, 2021 7:12 AM
    William Ballard
    Hi Greg,
     
    All that people need to know is that there is a wave of "deceased uncles out of state", and that as soon as you ask to have a local tech examine the piano, the lead goes dead.

    Bill Ballard
       R.P.T., New Hampshire Chpt.
    Piano Technicians Guild, Inc.
    wbps@vermontel.net" style="color: #000000">wbps@vermontel.net" style="color: #000000">wbps@vermontel.net" style="color: #000000">wbps@vermontel.net
     
    "Our lives contain
    a thousand springs
      and dies if one be gone
    Strange that a harp of a thousand strings
      should keep in tune so long."
        ...........Dr. Watts, "The Continental Harmony,1774"
    +++++++++++++++++++++
     


     


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    Original Message:
    Sent: 9/13/2021 12:11:00 PM
    From: Gregory Granoff
    Subject: piano sales scam

    Hello List,
    Can anyone provide the details of the scam that was talked about some time back that featured a private individual trying to get rid of a piano that had belonged to a deceased relative, was in great shape, and needed to go to a good home?  I seem to remember something about this individual (and similar individuals) targeted academic communities, but I have no recollection of a description of how the "scam" was to play out in the end.
     
    I'm asking because someone is emailing multiple people here in the university music and arts community regarding a small grand, in "great shape", that belonged to a deceased uncle in Oklahoma that could be shipped all the way here to California, if only the new owner would contact the moving company and make "rerouting" arrangements, as the piano is already destined to make some sort of move to this state.
    Does any of this sound familiar?  The whole scenario has raised some suspicions here.
     
    Thanks,
    Greg Granoff
    Humboldt State University



     
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    Original Message:
    Sent: 9/14/2021 7:12:00 AM
    From: William Ballard
    Subject: RE: piano sales scam

    Hi Greg,
     
    All that people need to know is that there is a wave of "deceased uncles out of state", and that as soon as you ask to have a local tech examine the piano, the lead goes dead.

    Bill Ballard
       R.P.T., New Hampshire Chpt.
    Piano Technicians Guild, Inc.
    wbps@vermontel.net" style="color: #000000">wbps@vermontel.net
     
    "Our lives contain
    a thousand springs
      and dies if one be gone
    Strange that a harp of a thousand strings
      should keep in tune so long."
        ..........Dr. Watts, "The Continental Harmony,1774"
    +++++++++++++++++++++
     


     



    Original Message:
    Sent: 9/13/2021 12:11:00 PM
    From: Gregory Granoff
    Subject: piano sales scam

    Hello List,
    Can anyone provide the details of the scam that was talked about some time back that featured a private individual trying to get rid of a piano that had belonged to a deceased relative, was in great shape, and needed to go to a good home?  I seem to remember something about this individual (and similar individuals) targeted academic communities, but I have no recollection of a description of how the "scam" was to play out in the end.
     
    I'm asking because someone is emailing multiple people here in the university music and arts community regarding a small grand, in "great shape", that belonged to a deceased uncle in Oklahoma that could be shipped all the way here to California, if only the new owner would contact the moving company and make "rerouting" arrangements, as the piano is already destined to make some sort of move to this state.
    Does any of this sound familiar?  The whole scenario has raised some suspicions here.
     
    Thanks,
    Greg Granoff
    Humboldt State University



     
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  • 11.  RE: piano sales scam

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 12 days ago
    Thanks to all who have responded and confirmed suspicions regarding this scam.  I also emailed the "seller" asking for more detailed info.  No answer.  What a world we live in.......

    Greg 





  • 12.  RE: piano sales scam

    Posted 11 days ago

    Hello all. 

    Just a heads up, probably not a good idea to respond via email to any of these scams. The money they could scam for drayage would be small change in comparison to the more valuable data they could steal by establishing contact by replying to the scam email. If you've replied, change your passwords. Don't open it if the email address looks strange and don't reply. That's actually how they get you. If it's too good to be true…



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    Memorie Schultz
    Piano Technician, Texas State University
    San Marcos TX
    512-393-1626
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  • 13.  RE: piano sales scam

    Posted 11 days ago
    That's good advice from Memorie,   it's easy now also  with phone technology , if an incoming call number is not in my contact list of family and friends  then I NEVER answer the phone and haven't for 10 years or more if it's piano work related then that's what voicemail is for.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRh1CMC3OVw
    www.snowpianos.com

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    Martin Snow
    South Burlington VT
    617-543-1030
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