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  • 1.  Leg Repair

    Posted 08-24-2023 17:03

    I have an older Estey six-leg grand with one leg needing a repair. When repairing a leg, I usually do what I think to be a proper repair by completely disassembling the problem joint, cleaning, regueling and reassembling the joint in a manner similar to the original manufacture (although, usually with Titebond). Sometimes, if the joint is problematic for some reason I will disassemble, clean, epoxy and reassemble. However, to disassemble the problem joint one this leg, I think that I would have to break other joints that are not loose (joints at the bottom of the leg). Anyone care to take a look at the pictures below and tell me if they see another way around it? Or, suggestions for a repair based on only a partial disassembly? I guess I could pry the loose joints apart a little bit and coat the glue surfaces with epoxy.

    Picture below is of the entire leg. The problem joint is between the two vertical legs and the block of wood between them at the top where it attaches to the piano keybed (see next picture).

    Picture below is of the leg top - you can see where the two pieces have become separated. The other side (other leglet) has the same loose joint. I kinda hate to think that I can't completely separate the joint and completely extract the dowels for regueing, but maybe I just have to settle for epoxy on the two mated broad surfaces - I'd rather not break the otherwise tight joints at the bottom assembly of the leg.
    Thoughts?
    Thanks!!!


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    Terry Farrell
    Farrell Piano Service, Inc.
    Brandon, Florida
    terry@farrellpiano.com
    813-684-3505
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  • 2.  RE: Leg Repair

    Posted 08-24-2023 18:38
    Could you break the wings off, drill horizontally for a new dowel and glue? 





  • 3.  RE: Leg Repair

    Posted 09-08-2023 16:49

    Thanks for the suggestion Chris. I went your route: pried the wings off, pried the center part away from the legs just enough to saw through the dowels. Drilled through the legs into the center part and epoxied two 3/8" oak dowels into each side with the dowels hanging out an inch or so. Drilled into the wings and epoxied those onto the protruding dowels. Legs is solid as all get-out.



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    Terry Farrell
    Farrell Piano Service, Inc.
    Brandon, Florida
    terry@farrellpiano.com
    813-684-3505
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  • 4.  RE: Leg Repair

    Member
    Posted 08-24-2023 18:44

    are you talking about the space between the block the leg plate is mounted on and the leg assembly where you can see the dowels ? I would go with some titebond and some pipe or long clamps or even a good strap clamp to draw everything together skip the epoxy. You could get a syringe made for glue and coat the dowels while the gap is open. pUT TAPE ACROSS THE BOTTOM OF THE GAPTO CONTAIN THE GLUE. APPLY GLUE TO A PLASTIC PUTTY KNIFE OR OLD CREDIT CARD AND SMEAR IT IN THE GAP. One clamped and set that joint will be fixed 



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    James Kelly
    Owner- Fur Elise Piano Service
    Pawleys Island SC
    (843) 325-4357
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  • 5.  RE: Leg Repair

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 08-25-2023 23:32

    What if you get as much glue as you can as is and clamp it up. Then cut a slot or two between the adjoining pieces and fit a piece of wood in the slot(s). Even if it compromises the dowels a bit, you will have a good mechanical connection.



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    Steven Rosenthal RPT
    Honolulu HI
    (808) 521-7129
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  • 6.  RE: Leg Repair

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 08-26-2023 09:25

    Low viscosity epoxy will wick its way into the joint quite effectively if applied slowly and gradually.  That's probably how I would do it. Alternate positions to let gravity do its thing. Saturate and clamp. Done.

    Peter Grey Piano Doctor 



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    Peter Grey
    Stratham NH
    (603) 686-2395
    pianodoctor57@gmail.com
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  • 7.  RE: Leg Repair

    Posted 08-26-2023 09:25
    Good way to apply glue into out of rich surfaces: drill dead end hole, fill the hole with the glue to 1/3 , drive dowel in .

    Alexander Brusilovsky