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Hi All,

Does anyone have advice for regulating this old style wippen from the early 20th century Bechstein.  By some coincidence, I have this customer who has two pianos from different manufacturers (Blütner and Bechstein) from the same era.  It appears that instead of a capstain there is a block with a triangular bottom with two screws holding it down.  I'm imagining the adjustment of blow distance may be achieved by backing off one screw and screwing in the other in a kind of lever action to raise the wippen.  Is this correct?  Anyone have experience with this style wippen?

Thanks in advance.

Best,

Luke

If you can find a "Bechstein screwdriver" adjusting rocker capstans is an easy task.

Maybe this link will work.

<https://higherlogicdownload.s3.amazonaws.com/PTG/Offset%201.jpg?X-Amz-Expires=3600&X-Amz-Security-Token=IQoJb3JpZ2luX2VjEAEaCXVzLWVhc3QtMSJHMEUCIQCzm3g4M%2F5anN4J3lHgAovvNE0hhu%2BWr4frH9XAdekgCQIgIJgdyFt1fAoDXfUe2bvqdCsaqmlxf%2FGs72yPiqPyIfYqugUI2v%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2FARAAGgwzODAzMzczNDA3MDYiDEfoRC0kLOEGMIGLmCqOBdmNf6y5Oyecc%2F5YnLEznHfErOtzZCWgjeDagzCUf7Vw5wSmB40aeEbbEr3ThQOyrZSm5kCWoh6yUT1BP84DXV6vxm1v8r%2B%2BPgUTvYATAue7aU3brsO2kLu4CqycdIDXlxA5n1nfH2NfzbucK5n2Op6XCtRQOlxklkzu%2F5oWYr6BxQSQC%2FeoluVYf3gd%2Fuu28Lwic8vMXs9tbJuFC%2FfN%2FcgkAS4W3BwASz7FagB6SQuqgZqoXQ7AvK%2BBm90oag6zx%2BRor3kqiNSPYXglJEMdl0UvCuEr6%2BaHuWqALsHdLLdUxY9bxOMveKDxmew1qN9mfeiee89davZGJTVJXOMrLKhb5ntqFsd3zCAZuXqXWV2V0M09%2BEtOz%2Bm3IvuxbeN7qicWfyCynNDvugET5IXGlPoBFwvB4ljQeU1Eh8tTJcYBdGPvXMnGiV3riF1OIMzzH1WOt1PKMCqz%2FmbeAU30OyWTNSJm7NmxLnvBI%2BfGb%2FQ8hwWDR8w%2Bj%2B899pa39EDo%2F9ovgxKxfVxbSwmHWCIlOHLGOvzwnX0wiW51rBZhWUW%2B2x3xXopPM8crElu%2BFJ0GWJHgMP3ystEyKz3MoHw5MW8Rjwho9eitN0nBBr7T1yqLib%2BvP70tQyrY60JXwAybbgiDi2sZ6XR5ARtxtScznjT7LqfKU9d8G9hcx80hkmg8BmMln4MEKVcQeMNYtZJrLcceJePKn825lezcnZiGZAInzOf6kf1zvTp6oHpiYcJ4aUlBvL%2BTPj745%2BKHBkBPYdas0EHIEKlS3GEfk3J73mi0xbDrkE5OxdH7fxQrfeRY7%2Fwn%2BFEdxqkfkYBaBJe55mmTOfFTlX3pwu5d5CNvov2yjVsv768Jugr1t2%2FqqjCcjNu7BjqxAWOhV8u9aKg39%2Be2fAS71MfuMWr2%2FhDAUKA168REg2rECkaAUA1Crwsw%2BiZdZqAo03%2FvxhjTryurO%2FqTsJ6gOpJ2FJlLl4oUM1m5MFaEsF2rplt3dpzD8GBa00z0safJn1pyXaN6wMRM1SD06B6HqLXwxte07fVhoipACqeWYerNdyAIoCdcuahYHmQREFWzfhcKjv8%2FwTurq8lcpUBS9CNiPzYpMmMi3WLdpQrYJPEvLg%3D%3D&X-Amz-Algorithm=AWS4-HMAC-SHA256&X-Amz-Credential=ASIAVRDO7IERO7YH4MNV%2F20250102%2Fus-east-1%2Fs3%2Faws4_request&X-Amz-Date=20250102T172453Z&X-Amz-SignedHeaders=host&X-Amz-Signature=896b95ec6be43ae9e7970c69c9de046c9a25f8ba6ba4604f932ab6e91564b30d>

Hi All,

Does anyone have advice for regulating this old style wippen from the early 20th century Bechstein.  By some coincidence, I have this customer who has two pianos from different manufacturers (Blütner and Bechstein) from the same era.  It appears that instead of a capstain there is a block with a triangular bottom with two screws holding it down.  I'm imagining the adjustment of blow distance may be achieved by backing off one screw and screwing in the other in a kind of lever action to raise the wippen.  Is this correct?  Anyone have experience with this style wippen?

Thanks in advance.

Best,

Luke

Thanks Ed!  

The link didn't work but knowing about the existence of this tool and the term for this style of capstan is helpful.  I'm more experienced with modern instruments.  Was it a link for purchasing the tool?  I see that Pianoforte has one but they are sold out.  I see Schaff has a simpler tool called the "Rocker Screwdriver" and maybe a ratcheting offset screwdriver will work.

Best,

Luke

If you can find a "Bechstein screwdriver" adjusting rocker capstans is an easy task.

Maybe this link will work.

<https://higherlogicdownload.s3.amazonaws.com/PTG/Offset%201.jpg?X-Amz-Expires=3600&X-Amz-Security-Token=IQoJb3JpZ2luX2VjEAEaCXVzLWVhc3QtMSJHMEUCIQCzm3g4M%2F5anN4J3lHgAovvNE0hhu%2BWr4frH9XAdekgCQIgIJgdyFt1fAoDXfUe2bvqdCsaqmlxf%2FGs72yPiqPyIfYqugUI2v%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2FARAAGgwzODAzMzczNDA3MDYiDEfoRC0kLOEGMIGLmCqOBdmNf6y5Oyecc%2F5YnLEznHfErOtzZCWgjeDagzCUf7Vw5wSmB40aeEbbEr3ThQOyrZSm5kCWoh6yUT1BP84DXV6vxm1v8r%2B%2BPgUTvYATAue7aU3brsO2kLu4CqycdIDXlxA5n1nfH2NfzbucK5n2Op6XCtRQOlxklkzu%2F5oWYr6BxQSQC%2FeoluVYf3gd%2Fuu28Lwic8vMXs9tbJuFC%2FfN%2FcgkAS4W3BwASz7FagB6SQuqgZqoXQ7AvK%2BBm90oag6zx%2BRor3kqiNSPYXglJEMdl0UvCuEr6%2BaHuWqALsHdLLdUxY9bxOMveKDxmew1qN9mfeiee89davZGJTVJXOMrLKhb5ntqFsd3zCAZuXqXWV2V0M09%2BEtOz%2Bm3IvuxbeN7qicWfyCynNDvugET5IXGlPoBFwvB4ljQeU1Eh8tTJcYBdGPvXMnGiV3riF1OIMzzH1WOt1PKMCqz%2FmbeAU30OyWTNSJm7NmxLnvBI%2BfGb%2FQ8hwWDR8w%2Bj%2B899pa39EDo%2F9ovgxKxfVxbSwmHWCIlOHLGOvzwnX0wiW51rBZhWUW%2B2x3xXopPM8crElu%2BFJ0GWJHgMP3ystEyKz3MoHw5MW8Rjwho9eitN0nBBr7T1yqLib%2BvP70tQyrY60JXwAybbgiDi2sZ6XR5ARtxtScznjT7LqfKU9d8G9hcx80hkmg8BmMln4MEKVcQeMNYtZJrLcceJePKn825lezcnZiGZAInzOf6kf1zvTp6oHpiYcJ4aUlBvL%2BTPj745%2BKHBkBPYdas0EHIEKlS3GEfk3J73mi0xbDrkE5OxdH7fxQrfeRY7%2Fwn%2BFEdxqkfkYBaBJe55mmTOfFTlX3pwu5d5CNvov2yjVsv768Jugr1t2%2FqqjCcjNu7BjqxAWOhV8u9aKg39%2Be2fAS71MfuMWr2%2FhDAUKA168REg2rECkaAUA1Crwsw%2BiZdZqAo03%2FvxhjTryurO%2FqTsJ6gOpJ2FJlLl4oUM1m5MFaEsF2rplt3dpzD8GBa00z0safJn1pyXaN6wMRM1SD06B6HqLXwxte07fVhoipACqeWYerNdyAIoCdcuahYHmQREFWzfhcKjv8%2FwTurq8lcpUBS9CNiPzYpMmMi3WLdpQrYJPEvLg%3D%3D&X-Amz-Algorithm=AWS4-HMAC-SHA256&X-Amz-Credential=ASIAVRDO7IERO7YH4MNV%2F20250102%2Fus-east-1%2Fs3%2Faws4_request&X-Amz-Date=20250102T172453Z&X-Amz-SignedHeaders=host&X-Amz-Signature=896b95ec6be43ae9e7970c69c9de046c9a25f8ba6ba4604f932ab6e91564b30d>

Hi All,

Does anyone have advice for regulating this old style wippen from the early 20th century Bechstein.  By some coincidence, I have this customer who has two pianos from different manufacturers (Blütner and Bechstein) from the same era.  It appears that instead of a capstain there is a block with a triangular bottom with two screws holding it down.  I'm imagining the adjustment of blow distance may be achieved by backing off one screw and screwing in the other in a kind of lever action to raise the wippen.  Is this correct?  Anyone have experience with this style wippen?

Thanks in advance.

Best,

Luke

Thanks Ed!  

The link didn't work but knowing about the existence of this tool and the term for this style of capstan is helpful.  I'm more experienced with modern instruments.  Was it a link for purchasing the tool?  I see that Pianoforte has one but they are sold out.  I see Schaff has a simpler tool called the "Rocker Screwdriver" and maybe a ratcheting offset screwdriver will work.

Best,

Luke

If you can find a "Bechstein screwdriver" adjusting rocker capstans is an easy task.

Maybe this link will work.

<https://higherlogicdownload.s3.amazonaws.com/PTG/Offset%201.jpg?X-Amz-Expires=3600&X-Amz-Security-Token=IQoJb3JpZ2luX2VjEAEaCXVzLWVhc3QtMSJHMEUCIQCzm3g4M%2F5anN4J3lHgAovvNE0hhu%2BWr4frH9XAdekgCQIgIJgdyFt1fAoDXfUe2bvqdCsaqmlxf%2FGs72yPiqPyIfYqugUI2v%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2FARAAGgwzODAzMzczNDA3MDYiDEfoRC0kLOEGMIGLmCqOBdmNf6y5Oyecc%2F5YnLEznHfErOtzZCWgjeDagzCUf7Vw5wSmB40aeEbbEr3ThQOyrZSm5kCWoh6yUT1BP84DXV6vxm1v8r%2B%2BPgUTvYATAue7aU3brsO2kLu4CqycdIDXlxA5n1nfH2NfzbucK5n2Op6XCtRQOlxklkzu%2F5oWYr6BxQSQC%2FeoluVYf3gd%2Fuu28Lwic8vMXs9tbJuFC%2FfN%2FcgkAS4W3BwASz7FagB6SQuqgZqoXQ7AvK%2BBm90oag6zx%2BRor3kqiNSPYXglJEMdl0UvCuEr6%2BaHuWqALsHdLLdUxY9bxOMveKDxmew1qN9mfeiee89davZGJTVJXOMrLKhb5ntqFsd3zCAZuXqXWV2V0M09%2BEtOz%2Bm3IvuxbeN7qicWfyCynNDvugET5IXGlPoBFwvB4ljQeU1Eh8tTJcYBdGPvXMnGiV3riF1OIMzzH1WOt1PKMCqz%2FmbeAU30OyWTNSJm7NmxLnvBI%2BfGb%2FQ8hwWDR8w%2Bj%2B899pa39EDo%2F9ovgxKxfVxbSwmHWCIlOHLGOvzwnX0wiW51rBZhWUW%2B2x3xXopPM8crElu%2BFJ0GWJHgMP3ystEyKz3MoHw5MW8Rjwho9eitN0nBBr7T1yqLib%2BvP70tQyrY60JXwAybbgiDi2sZ6XR5ARtxtScznjT7LqfKU9d8G9hcx80hkmg8BmMln4MEKVcQeMNYtZJrLcceJePKn825lezcnZiGZAInzOf6kf1zvTp6oHpiYcJ4aUlBvL%2BTPj745%2BKHBkBPYdas0EHIEKlS3GEfk3J73mi0xbDrkE5OxdH7fxQrfeRY7%2Fwn%2BFEdxqkfkYBaBJe55mmTOfFTlX3pwu5d5CNvov2yjVsv768Jugr1t2%2FqqjCcjNu7BjqxAWOhV8u9aKg39%2Be2fAS71MfuMWr2%2FhDAUKA168REg2rECkaAUA1Crwsw%2BiZdZqAo03%2FvxhjTryurO%2FqTsJ6gOpJ2FJlLl4oUM1m5MFaEsF2rplt3dpzD8GBa00z0safJn1pyXaN6wMRM1SD06B6HqLXwxte07fVhoipACqeWYerNdyAIoCdcuahYHmQREFWzfhcKjv8%2FwTurq8lcpUBS9CNiPzYpMmMi3WLdpQrYJPEvLg%3D%3D&X-Amz-Algorithm=AWS4-HMAC-SHA256&X-Amz-Credential=ASIAVRDO7IERO7YH4MNV%2F20250102%2Fus-east-1%2Fs3%2Faws4_request&X-Amz-Date=20250102T172453Z&X-Amz-SignedHeaders=host&X-Amz-Signature=896b95ec6be43ae9e7970c69c9de046c9a25f8ba6ba4604f932ab6e91564b30d>

Hi All,

Does anyone have advice for regulating this old style wippen from the early 20th century Bechstein.  By some coincidence, I have this customer who has two pianos from different manufacturers (Blütner and Bechstein) from the same era.  It appears that instead of a capstain there is a block with a triangular bottom with two screws holding it down.  I'm imagining the adjustment of blow distance may be achieved by backing off one screw and screwing in the other in a kind of lever action to raise the wippen.  Is this correct?  Anyone have experience with this style wippen?

Thanks in advance.

Best,

Luke

You can get one from RennerUSA

Thanks Ed!  

The link didn't work but knowing about the existence of this tool and the term for this style of capstan is helpful.  I'm more experienced with modern instruments.  Was it a link for purchasing the tool?  I see that Pianoforte has one but they are sold out.  I see Schaff has a simpler tool called the "Rocker Screwdriver" and maybe a ratcheting offset screwdriver will work.

Best,

Luke

If you can find a "Bechstein screwdriver" adjusting rocker capstans is an easy task.

Maybe this link will work.

<https://higherlogicdownload.s3.amazonaws.com/PTG/Offset%201.jpg?X-Amz-Expires=3600&X-Amz-Security-Token=IQoJb3JpZ2luX2VjEAEaCXVzLWVhc3QtMSJHMEUCIQCzm3g4M%2F5anN4J3lHgAovvNE0hhu%2BWr4frH9XAdekgCQIgIJgdyFt1fAoDXfUe2bvqdCsaqmlxf%2FGs72yPiqPyIfYqugUI2v%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2FARAAGgwzODAzMzczNDA3MDYiDEfoRC0kLOEGMIGLmCqOBdmNf6y5Oyecc%2F5YnLEznHfErOtzZCWgjeDagzCUf7Vw5wSmB40aeEbbEr3ThQOyrZSm5kCWoh6yUT1BP84DXV6vxm1v8r%2B%2BPgUTvYATAue7aU3brsO2kLu4CqycdIDXlxA5n1nfH2NfzbucK5n2Op6XCtRQOlxklkzu%2F5oWYr6BxQSQC%2FeoluVYf3gd%2Fuu28Lwic8vMXs9tbJuFC%2FfN%2FcgkAS4W3BwASz7FagB6SQuqgZqoXQ7AvK%2BBm90oag6zx%2BRor3kqiNSPYXglJEMdl0UvCuEr6%2BaHuWqALsHdLLdUxY9bxOMveKDxmew1qN9mfeiee89davZGJTVJXOMrLKhb5ntqFsd3zCAZuXqXWV2V0M09%2BEtOz%2Bm3IvuxbeN7qicWfyCynNDvugET5IXGlPoBFwvB4ljQeU1Eh8tTJcYBdGPvXMnGiV3riF1OIMzzH1WOt1PKMCqz%2FmbeAU30OyWTNSJm7NmxLnvBI%2BfGb%2FQ8hwWDR8w%2Bj%2B899pa39EDo%2F9ovgxKxfVxbSwmHWCIlOHLGOvzwnX0wiW51rBZhWUW%2B2x3xXopPM8crElu%2BFJ0GWJHgMP3ystEyKz3MoHw5MW8Rjwho9eitN0nBBr7T1yqLib%2BvP70tQyrY60JXwAybbgiDi2sZ6XR5ARtxtScznjT7LqfKU9d8G9hcx80hkmg8BmMln4MEKVcQeMNYtZJrLcceJePKn825lezcnZiGZAInzOf6kf1zvTp6oHpiYcJ4aUlBvL%2BTPj745%2BKHBkBPYdas0EHIEKlS3GEfk3J73mi0xbDrkE5OxdH7fxQrfeRY7%2Fwn%2BFEdxqkfkYBaBJe55mmTOfFTlX3pwu5d5CNvov2yjVsv768Jugr1t2%2FqqjCcjNu7BjqxAWOhV8u9aKg39%2Be2fAS71MfuMWr2%2FhDAUKA168REg2rECkaAUA1Crwsw%2BiZdZqAo03%2FvxhjTryurO%2FqTsJ6gOpJ2FJlLl4oUM1m5MFaEsF2rplt3dpzD8GBa00z0safJn1pyXaN6wMRM1SD06B6HqLXwxte07fVhoipACqeWYerNdyAIoCdcuahYHmQREFWzfhcKjv8%2FwTurq8lcpUBS9CNiPzYpMmMi3WLdpQrYJPEvLg%3D%3D&X-Amz-Algorithm=AWS4-HMAC-SHA256&X-Amz-Credential=ASIAVRDO7IERO7YH4MNV%2F20250102%2Fus-east-1%2Fs3%2Faws4_request&X-Amz-Date=20250102T172453Z&X-Amz-SignedHeaders=host&X-Amz-Signature=896b95ec6be43ae9e7970c69c9de046c9a25f8ba6ba4604f932ab6e91564b30d>

Hi All,

Does anyone have advice for regulating this old style wippen from the early 20th century Bechstein.  By some coincidence, I have this customer who has two pianos from different manufacturers (Blütner and Bechstein) from the same era.  It appears that instead of a capstain there is a block with a triangular bottom with two screws holding it down.  I'm imagining the adjustment of blow distance may be achieved by backing off one screw and screwing in the other in a kind of lever action to raise the wippen.  Is this correct?  Anyone have experience with this style wippen?

Thanks in advance.

Best,

Luke

Parker, 

Is that the one referred to as "offset screwdriver"?

Peter Grey Piano Doctor 

You can get one from RennerUSA

Thanks Ed!  

The link didn't work but knowing about the existence of this tool and the term for this style of capstan is helpful.  I'm more experienced with modern instruments.  Was it a link for purchasing the tool?  I see that Pianoforte has one but they are sold out.  I see Schaff has a simpler tool called the "Rocker Screwdriver" and maybe a ratcheting offset screwdriver will work.

Best,

Luke

If you can find a "Bechstein screwdriver" adjusting rocker capstans is an easy task.

Maybe this link will work.

<https://higherlogicdownload.s3.amazonaws.com/PTG/Offset%201.jpg?X-Amz-Expires=3600&X-Amz-Security-Token=IQoJb3JpZ2luX2VjEAEaCXVzLWVhc3QtMSJHMEUCIQCzm3g4M%2F5anN4J3lHgAovvNE0hhu%2BWr4frH9XAdekgCQIgIJgdyFt1fAoDXfUe2bvqdCsaqmlxf%2FGs72yPiqPyIfYqugUI2v%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2FARAAGgwzODAzMzczNDA3MDYiDEfoRC0kLOEGMIGLmCqOBdmNf6y5Oyecc%2F5YnLEznHfErOtzZCWgjeDagzCUf7Vw5wSmB40aeEbbEr3ThQOyrZSm5kCWoh6yUT1BP84DXV6vxm1v8r%2B%2BPgUTvYATAue7aU3brsO2kLu4CqycdIDXlxA5n1nfH2NfzbucK5n2Op6XCtRQOlxklkzu%2F5oWYr6BxQSQC%2FeoluVYf3gd%2Fuu28Lwic8vMXs9tbJuFC%2FfN%2FcgkAS4W3BwASz7FagB6SQuqgZqoXQ7AvK%2BBm90oag6zx%2BRor3kqiNSPYXglJEMdl0UvCuEr6%2BaHuWqALsHdLLdUxY9bxOMveKDxmew1qN9mfeiee89davZGJTVJXOMrLKhb5ntqFsd3zCAZuXqXWV2V0M09%2BEtOz%2Bm3IvuxbeN7qicWfyCynNDvugET5IXGlPoBFwvB4ljQeU1Eh8tTJcYBdGPvXMnGiV3riF1OIMzzH1WOt1PKMCqz%2FmbeAU30OyWTNSJm7NmxLnvBI%2BfGb%2FQ8hwWDR8w%2Bj%2B899pa39EDo%2F9ovgxKxfVxbSwmHWCIlOHLGOvzwnX0wiW51rBZhWUW%2B2x3xXopPM8crElu%2BFJ0GWJHgMP3ystEyKz3MoHw5MW8Rjwho9eitN0nBBr7T1yqLib%2BvP70tQyrY60JXwAybbgiDi2sZ6XR5ARtxtScznjT7LqfKU9d8G9hcx80hkmg8BmMln4MEKVcQeMNYtZJrLcceJePKn825lezcnZiGZAInzOf6kf1zvTp6oHpiYcJ4aUlBvL%2BTPj745%2BKHBkBPYdas0EHIEKlS3GEfk3J73mi0xbDrkE5OxdH7fxQrfeRY7%2Fwn%2BFEdxqkfkYBaBJe55mmTOfFTlX3pwu5d5CNvov2yjVsv768Jugr1t2%2FqqjCcjNu7BjqxAWOhV8u9aKg39%2Be2fAS71MfuMWr2%2FhDAUKA168REg2rECkaAUA1Crwsw%2BiZdZqAo03%2FvxhjTryurO%2FqTsJ6gOpJ2FJlLl4oUM1m5MFaEsF2rplt3dpzD8GBa00z0safJn1pyXaN6wMRM1SD06B6HqLXwxte07fVhoipACqeWYerNdyAIoCdcuahYHmQREFWzfhcKjv8%2FwTurq8lcpUBS9CNiPzYpMmMi3WLdpQrYJPEvLg%3D%3D&X-Amz-Algorithm=AWS4-HMAC-SHA256&X-Amz-Credential=ASIAVRDO7IERO7YH4MNV%2F20250102%2Fus-east-1%2Fs3%2Faws4_request&X-Amz-Date=20250102T172453Z&X-Amz-SignedHeaders=host&X-Amz-Signature=896b95ec6be43ae9e7970c69c9de046c9a25f8ba6ba4604f932ab6e91564b30d>

Hi All,

Does anyone have advice for regulating this old style wippen from the early 20th century Bechstein.  By some coincidence, I have this customer who has two pianos from different manufacturers (Blütner and Bechstein) from the same era.  It appears that instead of a capstain there is a block with a triangular bottom with two screws holding it down.  I'm imagining the adjustment of blow distance may be achieved by backing off one screw and screwing in the other in a kind of lever action to raise the wippen.  Is this correct?  Anyone have experience with this style wippen?

Thanks in advance.

Best,

Luke

Hi All,

Does anyone have advice for regulating this old style wippen from the early 20th century Bechstein.  By some coincidence, I have this customer who has two pianos from different manufacturers (Blütner and Bechstein) from the same era.  It appears that instead of a capstain there is a block with a triangular bottom with two screws holding it down.  I'm imagining the adjustment of blow distance may be achieved by backing off one screw and screwing in the other in a kind of lever action to raise the wippen.  Is this correct?  Anyone have experience with this style wippen?

Thanks in advance.

Best,

Luke