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Hi.  I've been fortunate in not having to deal with this issue for quite some time.  Is anyone familiar with the most current protocols in (not) handling mouse waste in consol piano?  Alternatively, anyone fluent in using the Journal archives?

Thanks

Hi.  I've been fortunate in not having to deal with this issue for quite some time.  Is anyone familiar with the most current protocols in (not) handling mouse waste in consol piano?  Alternatively, anyone fluent in using the Journal archives?

Thanks

Hi.  I've been fortunate in not having to deal with this issue for quite some time.  Is anyone familiar with the most current protocols in (not) handling mouse waste in consol piano?  Alternatively, anyone fluent in using the Journal archives?

Thanks

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David Skolnik [RPT]
Hastings-on-Hudson NY
(917) 589-2625
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Hi.  I've been fortunate in not having to deal with this issue for quite some time.  Is anyone familiar with the most current protocols in (not) handling mouse waste in consol piano?  Alternatively, anyone fluent in using the Journal archives?

Thanks

Hi.  I've been fortunate in not having to deal with this issue for quite some time.  Is anyone familiar with the most current protocols in (not) handling mouse waste in consol piano?  Alternatively, anyone fluent in using the Journal archives?

Thanks

Here are the CDC recommendations for clean up: https://www.cdc.gov/healthy-pets/rodent-control/clean-up.html

Since most of these viruses are enveloped viruses they are easily disinfected with any reputable disinfectant such as hypochlorus acid, benzalkonium chloride or dimethyl ammonium chloride.  Lysol is a well tested disinfectant.  Even alcohol or a kitchen detergent is usually effective.

Hi.  I've been fortunate in not having to deal with this issue for quite some time.  Is anyone familiar with the most current protocols in (not) handling mouse waste in consol piano?  Alternatively, anyone fluent in using the Journal archives?

Thanks

Here are the CDC recommendations for clean up: https://www.cdc.gov/healthy-pets/rodent-control/clean-up.html

Since most of these viruses are enveloped viruses they are easily disinfected with any reputable disinfectant such as hypochlorus acid, benzalkonium chloride or dimethyl ammonium chloride.  Lysol is a well tested disinfectant.  Even alcohol or a kitchen detergent is usually effective.

Hi.  I've been fortunate in not having to deal with this issue for quite some time.  Is anyone familiar with the most current protocols in (not) handling mouse waste in consol piano?  Alternatively, anyone fluent in using the Journal archives?

Thanks

First, thanks to everyone who replied and provided guidance, even if seemingly conflicting.  Taking from Norman's post, here's the (a) problem:

Even if the alcohol can be applied without causing colateral damage, the "wet mess" is too dispersed to effectively collect and eliminate by means other than a vacuum.  When he, and others, express concern for generating air-borne particles, are we suggesting that the vacuuming process itself will do that?  Even if a HEPA or near-HEPA device is used?  It sounds like both Blaine and Norman agree that the active life of the virus is relatively short, even without the alcohol application. 

My more personal concern (as in,for myself) regards any subsequent precautions I would exercise when (or if) doing further work on the instrument.  First order would be as total a clean as can be done in the home.  That would allow for a thorough assessment of its condition to either determine the wisdom of undertaking the effort or prepping it for donation/disposal.  Piano is a Baldwin Consol Model 601 from 1958;  not well cared for, but that's irrelevant if it can work.  I have one question, (which I should probably post separately) for anyone who is familiar with this model:  is there actually a way to remove the keyslip?  Even with the overly tight screws removed from the underside of the keybed, it's 'frozen', seemingly part of the case structure, which wouldn't be so bad, except that something has happened to cause many of the naturals to bind in front.  My working assumption is that, at some time in its 50 years, the balance rail shifted forward... it wouldn't take much.  Shimming the keyslip would be the quick solution (if do-able).  Going at the balance rail wouldn't happen until thorough-clean is done.

Thanks again.

Thanks

Here are the CDC recommendations for clean up: https://www.cdc.gov/healthy-pets/rodent-control/clean-up.html

Since most of these viruses are enveloped viruses they are easily disinfected with any reputable disinfectant such as hypochlorus acid, benzalkonium chloride or dimethyl ammonium chloride.  Lysol is a well tested disinfectant.  Even alcohol or a kitchen detergent is usually effective.

Hi.  I've been fortunate in not having to deal with this issue for quite some time.  Is anyone familiar with the most current protocols in (not) handling mouse waste in consol piano?  Alternatively, anyone fluent in using the Journal archives?

Thanks

If I remember correctly, the key slip is a truncated T with it sliding into the keybed. You might take out the cheek blocks and tap the back of the key slip at the keybed.

First, thanks to everyone who replied and provided guidance, even if seemingly conflicting.  Taking from Norman's post, here's the (a) problem:

Even if the alcohol can be applied without causing colateral damage, the "wet mess" is too dispersed to effectively collect and eliminate by means other than a vacuum.  When he, and others, express concern for generating air-borne particles, are we suggesting that the vacuuming process itself will do that?  Even if a HEPA or near-HEPA device is used?  It sounds like both Blaine and Norman agree that the active life of the virus is relatively short, even without the alcohol application. 

My more personal concern (as in,for myself) regards any subsequent precautions I would exercise when (or if) doing further work on the instrument.  First order would be as total a clean as can be done in the home.  That would allow for a thorough assessment of its condition to either determine the wisdom of undertaking the effort or prepping it for donation/disposal.  Piano is a Baldwin Consol Model 601 from 1958;  not well cared for, but that's irrelevant if it can work.  I have one question, (which I should probably post separately) for anyone who is familiar with this model:  is there actually a way to remove the keyslip?  Even with the overly tight screws removed from the underside of the keybed, it's 'frozen', seemingly part of the case structure, which wouldn't be so bad, except that something has happened to cause many of the naturals to bind in front.  My working assumption is that, at some time in its 50 years, the balance rail shifted forward... it wouldn't take much.  Shimming the keyslip would be the quick solution (if do-able).  Going at the balance rail wouldn't happen until thorough-clean is done.

Thanks again.

Thanks

Here are the CDC recommendations for clean up: https://www.cdc.gov/healthy-pets/rodent-control/clean-up.html

Since most of these viruses are enveloped viruses they are easily disinfected with any reputable disinfectant such as hypochlorus acid, benzalkonium chloride or dimethyl ammonium chloride.  Lysol is a well tested disinfectant.  Even alcohol or a kitchen detergent is usually effective.

Hi.  I've been fortunate in not having to deal with this issue for quite some time.  Is anyone familiar with the most current protocols in (not) handling mouse waste in consol piano?  Alternatively, anyone fluent in using the Journal archives?

Thanks

Here are the CDC recommendations for clean up: https://www.cdc.gov/healthy-pets/rodent-control/clean-up.html

Since most of these viruses are enveloped viruses they are easily disinfected with any reputable disinfectant such as hypochlorus acid, benzalkonium chloride or dimethyl ammonium chloride.  Lysol is a well tested disinfectant.  Even alcohol or a kitchen detergent is usually effective.

Hi.  I've been fortunate in not having to deal with this issue for quite some time.  Is anyone familiar with the most current protocols in (not) handling mouse waste in consol piano?  Alternatively, anyone fluent in using the Journal archives?

Thanks

Hi.  I've been fortunate in not having to deal with this issue for quite some time.  Is anyone familiar with the most current protocols in (not) handling mouse waste in consol piano?  Alternatively, anyone fluent in using the Journal archives?

Thanks

Mouse nest are a significate issue in northern MN. Our extreme cold winters drive them in doors. I have cleaned them multiple time. Mice are creative to bring pet food into the piano for their food, they also use the felt for nice warm bedding and what ever they call find. I emptied my vacuum into a into a paper bag and burnt it in a trash barrel. As with many of the other replies, our sanitation is of utmost importance. When cleaning, don't forget to clean under the keys to complete the job. Urine on the center pivots become sticky and can rust from the acidic nature.

Hi.  I've been fortunate in not having to deal with this issue for quite some time.  Is anyone familiar with the most current protocols in (not) handling mouse waste in consol piano?  Alternatively, anyone fluent in using the Journal archives?

Thanks