Yes, those supposedly tapered pins that came in Zuckermann kit instruments. They are very problematic, and tapping is not very helpful. I have an instrument that had them, and I simply drilled out the holes and put in zither pins. I have seen truly tapered pins, and tapping is effective with them. But with the pins you're describing, Alan, you need to address the hole.
Original Message:
Sent: 11/7/2025 10:04:00 AM
From: Alan Eder
Subject: RE: snugging up loose harpsichord tuning pins
Perhaps I misunderstood Ed. These smooth pins are tapered for the bottom few millimeters, but not along their entire length.
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Alan Eder, RPT
Herb Alpert School of Music
California Institute of the Arts
Valencia, CA
661.904.6483
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Original Message:
Sent: 11-07-2025 09:44
From: Fred Sturm
Subject: snugging up loose harpsichord tuning pins
For tapered pins one typically simply taps them in a bit. Hence the T tuning "hammer" (hard surface on one or both ends of the T). If that doesn't suffice, you need to remove the pin, with the complication of keeping the coil taut and hence attached while inserting a paper shim (best done with an assistant perhaps).
Original Message:
Sent: 11/7/2025 9:04:00 AM
From: Alan Eder
Subject: RE: snugging up loose harpsichord tuning pins
Good point, Ed, about failure to specify which pin type. My bad. It is historical tapered (no threads or becket hole, for those just joining our program already in progress).
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Alan Eder, RPT
Herb Alpert School of Music
California Institute of the Arts
Valencia, CA
661.904.6483
Original Message:
Sent: 11-06-2025 20:44
From: Ed Sutton
Subject: snugging up loose harpsichord tuning pins
What has not been specified here is whether the pin is a historic smooth tapered pin or a modern zither pin.
With historic smooth pins the paper shim makes a beautifully tightened pin, very nice to tune. I would hesitate to use CA glue on a historic pin.
I have no experience repairing loose zither pins on harpsichords. CA swabbing might be fine. But remember that harpsichords don't need high torque.
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Ed Sutton
ed440@me.com
(980) 254-7413
Original Message:
Sent: 11-06-2025 15:36
From: Alan Eder
Subject: snugging up loose harpsichord tuning pins
Illuminating as always, Fred. Thanks!
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Alan Eder, RPT
Herb Alpert School of Music
California Institute of the Arts
Valencia, CA
661.904.6483
Original Message:
Sent: 11-06-2025 15:11
From: Fred Sturm
Subject: snugging up loose harpsichord tuning pins
I haven't done CA on harpsichords (as in applying it at the base of the pin) because they have open-faced pin blocks, and it would be unsightly. If that isn't a consideration, I don't see a reason not to, although I'll note that many harpsichords have a layer of spruce on top of their maple soundboard for aesthetic reasons. The spruce is liable to absorb a lot of the CA before it gets down to the maple.
An alternative is to remove the pin and swab the hole with CA (pipe cleaner), then reinsert pin. I have done this on pianos (where the area around the base of the pin was impeded by application of thicker CA), and it was successful.
Applying a shim, either paper or veneer, a challenge is to keep the shim from being forced into the hole when you tap in the pin. I fold over a bit of the top of the shim, to keep the rest of the shim from being pulled in, then trim it away from around the base of the pin.
Original Message:
Sent: 11/6/2025 12:06:00 PM
From: Alan Eder
Subject: snugging up loose harpsichord tuning pins
Greetings,
I am no expert at harpsichord servicing, but do have three in my care here at CalArts.
One of them has developed a loose tuning pin. I am advised that the prevailing fix for this is to remove the pin and add a paper shim inside the hole.
In the early, "dark" days of my career as a piano tech, that is what I was taught to do to fix a loose pin on piano (only with sandpaper). Ever since someone out there "discovered" the utility of using thin CA glue for this fix instead, which is much less labor intensive, that has been my SOP.
Wondering if anyone has either tried this on a harpsichord, or can think of a compelling reason NOT to try it.
Thanks,
Alan
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Alan Eder, RPT
Herb Alpert School of Music
California Institute of the Arts
Valencia, CA
661.904.6483
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