Yes, Lucinda. This is a very real concern. I have had apprentices come for a few sessions and decide they knew all they needed to, then I wouldn't see them until they had a problem they couldn't fix, which was often. My reputation took a number of hits when they told people they "trained with me". Their poor work was seen as a direct reflection of my skill.
As others have said, this is a very complicated vocation and can't be mastered quickly.
Coleman, I suggest rather than "picking brains", you purchase books on the matter and actually learn. Arthru Reblitz is one very good source I require my students to purchase. The PTG also has excellent educational materials including comprehensive instruction in Tuning, Repair and Regulation, called: P.A.C.E. I also require any of my students to purchase.
Patrick Draine is correct. While we are happy to help, this is not a DIY forum. If you are having trouble finding a mentor, at least get the reference materials. This way you are a lot less likely to get misinformation.
Best of luck.
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Dave Conte, RPT
Piano Technician in Residence
The University of Tennessee
College of Music
Knoxville TN
(817) 307-5656
Owner: Rocky Top Piano
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Original Message:
Sent: 01-12-2025 09:22
From: Lucinda Strehlow
Subject: Steinway Vertegrand Restoration - wildly new to this
I had a mentor who help a few of us get started. He was great. But he told me once that he sometimes lay awake at night trying to figure out how he could stop someone from telling folks he had 'been trained by Bob ______' after just a couple months.
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Cindy Strehlow, RPT
Urbana, IL
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Original Message:
Sent: 01-11-2025 12:15
From: Paul McCloud
Subject: Steinway Vertegrand Restoration - wildly new to this
Yes, joining the Guild, and/or going to a school is a good idea because it's very difficult to learn all that you need to know without help. We have a new mentoring program here in San Diego, and hope to expand it to other chapters soon. Stay tuned!
Mentorships are very hard to find anymore because largely the rebuilding part of the trade has fallen off. That's where a lot of people learned the trade. Availability of cheap imports is another factor. It's not economically feasible to rebuild grandma's old piano compared to the cost of a new import. Like the sound of one hand clapping, how is a new tech supposed to get experience on a variety of pianos if there's no opportunity to do that? Getting a job at a store is a good way to begin, but it's hard to get that opportunity if you don't have experience or if they don't have someone on staff or contract to guide you. I started as an apprentice at a store, but business was not as brisk as it once was and they stopped hiring a full time tech. Add to the mix if you have a regular job, and have to carve out time from your family life to spend an hour or two studying or working on a piano at home. You gotta be determined and get a foot in the door. Going to chapter meetings, zoom meetings, Conventions, etc., will only get you so far. I"m sorry you're not able to find someone, even paid, but we're just trying to make a living with what we're doing, and very little time to devote to a new person. But this forum is very helpful, and most here are more than willing to offer advice and ideas to anyone as long as they are sincere and want to learn.
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Paul McCloud, RPT
Accutone Piano Service
www.AccutonePianoService.com
pavadasa@gmail.com
Original Message:
Sent: 01-11-2025 10:07
From: John Nasta
Subject: Steinway Vertegrand Restoration - wildly new to this
I often see people advising beginners to become an apprentice or find a mentor, but it isn't that simple. Does the teacher need someone who has no experience hanging around and taking up their time? What is the apprentice going to do for the teacher? Provide free labor? Work for them after they have trained you? Do you have time to work for free? Are you going to be available whenever they need you? Nobody is going to take on an apprentice who only wants to fix their own piano. I think you're better off joining the PTG where you will have an opportunity to ask questions, participate in technical demonstrations at meetings, and you will hear about training seminars that you can attend. Even then, is that worthwhile for someone who only wants to fix their own piano? You have to decide that for yourself.
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John Nasta
Brooklyn NY
nastanyc@gmail.com
(646) 515-7594
Original Message:
Sent: 01-10-2025 04:06
From: Patrick Draine
Subject: Steinway Vertegrand Restoration - wildly new to this
Hi Colman, this list is not a do-it-yourself forum, but "serious beginners" will always get help. I suggest you contact members of Columbus's local PTG chapter and see if someone is willing to take on an apprentice. I.e., a certain amount of grunt work (cleaning up the shop) in return for clear instruction on rebushing your keys, advice on whether the key pins need to be replaced, etc. Perhaps rebush a set or two from a junk piano, then tackle your Steinway upright's keys. Hopefully do a good enough job your mentor will have you doing key work in the shop in the foreseeable future!
Rome wasn't built in a day.
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Patrick Draine RPT
Billerica MA
(978) 663-9690