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  • 1.  Suggestions for clamping new key tops

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 3 hours ago

    Next week I will be replacing an entire set of key tops on a Yamaha hybrid N3. I'm planning on using Roo Glue and am wondering if there's a simple system for clamping groups at a time. I'm trying to come up with something not too elaborate as I'm not likely to be replacing more sets in the future. Is there's a simple way to get the tops aligned on the key stick?

    Also, regarding the N3, the manual is a little vague about pulling the action, I'm not clear about how much needs to be done outside of what's typical, I see two brackets at either end of the stack, and the electrical connectors. Any clarity on that would be much appreciated.

    Thanks in advance.

    ~S



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    Steven Rosenthal RPT
    Honolulu HI
    (808) 521-7129
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  • 2.  RE: Suggestions for clamping new key tops

    Member
    Posted 3 hours ago
    I do Yamaha warranty keytops all the time. I made a fixture that the front of the key rests against and keeps it correctly spaced out for the keytop lip overhang. I use strips of blue painter's tape over the freshly glued top. The first across the top just behind the notch and the second at the tail. Only after they are gently pressed down and taped do I move them to a small two-tiered cart that I use for keys. I use Roo.

    Deb

    5 Tarr's Lane WEST
    Rockport, MA  01966
    978-546-8428





  • 3.  RE: Suggestions for clamping new key tops

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 2 hours ago
    I just did a set yesterday and have been doing keytop recovering for over 30 years. I use spring clamps and a 3/16”x1 1/8”x6” strip of wood or masonite as a clamp. You’ll also need something to gauge the overhang of the front. I use the spring clamp that fits in the key mortise and a piece of masonite with the needed thickness of front keypuncings taped to it. On this set, I just used a squirt bottle of glue and a small paint brush to even it out. I peeled off the original plastic and reglued them. When you have glued on the third key the first one is ready to take off the clamps. This is important, as the glue joint is tight, but can still be moved a bit if it has shifted in the clamps. Scrape the excess glue from the edges and a quick filing and you’re done.
    Normally, when recovering a set for an older piano, I use the molded keytops with the fronts on them and a small paint roller to apply the glue to a small group of keys.

    Hope it goes well!
    Gene Taets, R.P.T.




  • 4.  RE: Suggestions for clamping new key tops

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 35 minutes ago

    Thanks to both of you. Debra, you're saying that the tape is adequate clamping? That will simplify things.

    The big issue is successfully pulling and disassembling the action. At least as complicated as pulling an old player stack as a preliminary. And then getting the whole thing back together again so it doesn't go up in smoke. I've been warned to put the grounding wires exactly where I find them.



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    Steven Rosenthal RPT
    Honolulu HI
    (808) 521-7129
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  • 5.  RE: Suggestions for clamping new key tops

    Member
    Posted 17 minutes ago
    I wouldn't consider the tape as much a clamp as a method to keep the top from shifting. Just align and place the top and gently push down along the length. Then apply the tape and set aside. I have 104 short lengths of tape stuck to the edge of and surface of the bench so that one hand holds the key and top while the other reaches for and applies the tape.
    Sorry that I don't know about the removal of the keys. They get shipped to me for the warranty work.

    Deb

    5 Tarr's Lane WEST
    Rockport, MA  01966
    978-546-8428






  • 6.  RE: Suggestions for clamping new key tops

    Member
    Posted 7 minutes ago
    Just looked back for a pic. Doesn't show the fixture but you can see how they're taped. This pic was captioned..."my Saturday morning" (four sets!)



    5 Tarr's Lane WEST
    Rockport, MA  01966
    978-546-8428