Interesting thoughts so far for sure. Will Truitt called me and he suggested that the swage is so weakened the its reaching the end elasticity.
Anyways, i just downloaded a zoom app and took this photo. See what you thing. The swage is double the string diameter at this angle and quite flat the other angle.
-chris
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Original Message:
Sent: 10-04-2022 16:57
From: John Rhodes
Subject: The Baldwin SF-10 Break Decision
Hmm.
Chris, you mentioned "over-zealous on the swage", and "creaking". That dead tone reminds me of a wound string which is contaminated with crud or corrosion; cure (sometimes) is to remove string and roll a running loop of the string down the full length (I'm sure you know the drill). So this got me thinking of this possible scenario:
As string is brought up to pitch, the core wire elongates resulting in slight separation of the winding turns. This separation is good, as it gives the nice tone (corroded strings rub at each winding turn rapidly attenuating the higher partials).
But maybe on your strings, as you approach the target pitch, windings covering one of the swaged ends slip, permitting the windings to collapse slightly along the core and rub -- killing the tone. I know this sounds like a long shot, but I've never heard this particular defect before!
You might try letting the pitch down (which lets the core "retract" into the windings). Then pull pitch up just *before* you start losing the tone. Then try tapping the winding over a swage (could be either end) and see it that kills the tone.
Good luck!
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John Rhodes
Vancouver WA
(360) 721-0728
jrhodes@pacifier.com
Original Message:
Sent: 10-03-2022 14:03
From: Chris Chernobieff
Subject: The Baldwin SF-10 Break Decision
Hi all,
An unusual situation has occurred. I'm working on a Sf-10. The strings i had ordered f2-c#3(strings 33-50) were not made properly, the string maker got a little over zealous on the swage. As a result, as i was bringing the f2 up to pitch ( for the first time), when i got a whole tone below, the tone of the string would die and start creaking. I called the string maker for replacements, they mentioned this was Baldwins biggest error, that the model F use to have just steel gauges(gauges 19,20,21). Questions: was there a problem to fix with the original scaling? Or should i go back to the original? Or stay with the "bad" Baldwin Modification? If anyone has been confronted with this before, which way did you go?
Much thanks in advance.
-chris
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