Pianotech

I don't "ask" the customer, I just let them know, and I let them know the source of the tariff--it ain't Canada. I itemize it on the invoice. 

I'm disappointed to see Steve Rosenthal's message was taken down which did nothing more than ascribe responsibility for these tariffs where they belong. I think that information is germane as we figure out a way to communicate to our customers the nature and consequence of these tariffs. 

Moderators need to be given more discretion as to when to actually take something down following a "complaint". 

The report from Gregor Heller on shipping companies refusing to ship to the US, presumably as a protest to the Trump tariffs, has potential impact for a variety of things coming out of Germany. 

Taking posts like Mr Rosenthal's down because it, I presume, was deemed a political statement is, in fact, a political statement of it own. 

Procedure is when something is flagged it is taken down and then reviewed. We cannot afford to have full time moderators, unless you are willing to devote yourself to that task.

I'm disappointed to see Steve Rosenthal's message was taken down which did nothing more than ascribe responsibility for these tariffs where they belong. I think that information is germane as we figure out a way to communicate to our customers the nature and consequence of these tariffs. 

Moderators need to be given more discretion as to when to actually take something down following a "complaint". 

The report from Gregor Heller on shipping companies refusing to ship to the US, presumably as a protest to the Trump tariffs, has potential impact for a variety of things coming out of Germany. 

Taking posts like Mr Rosenthal's down because it, I presume, was deemed a political statement is, in fact, a political statement of it own. 

I understand how it works. I think it's a bad system on several levels. You realize that is possible that Steve can be suspended for that, though there seems to be no rhyme or reason to how that punishment is doled out. Absurd. 

Procedure is when something is flagged it is taken down and then reviewed. We cannot afford to have full time moderators, unless you are willing to devote yourself to that task.

I'm disappointed to see Steve Rosenthal's message was taken down which did nothing more than ascribe responsibility for these tariffs where they belong. I think that information is germane as we figure out a way to communicate to our customers the nature and consequence of these tariffs. 

Moderators need to be given more discretion as to when to actually take something down following a "complaint". 

The report from Gregor Heller on shipping companies refusing to ship to the US, presumably as a protest to the Trump tariffs, has potential impact for a variety of things coming out of Germany. 

Taking posts like Mr Rosenthal's down because it, I presume, was deemed a political statement is, in fact, a political statement of it own. 

You still haven't volunteered to moderate full time.

I understand how it works. I think it's a bad system on several levels. You realize that is possible that Steve can be suspended for that, though there seems to be no rhyme or reason to how that punishment is doled out. Absurd. 

Procedure is when something is flagged it is taken down and then reviewed. We cannot afford to have full time moderators, unless you are willing to devote yourself to that task.

I'm disappointed to see Steve Rosenthal's message was taken down which did nothing more than ascribe responsibility for these tariffs where they belong. I think that information is germane as we figure out a way to communicate to our customers the nature and consequence of these tariffs. 

Moderators need to be given more discretion as to when to actually take something down following a "complaint". 

The report from Gregor Heller on shipping companies refusing to ship to the US, presumably as a protest to the Trump tariffs, has potential impact for a variety of things coming out of Germany. 

Taking posts like Mr Rosenthal's down because it, I presume, was deemed a political statement is, in fact, a political statement of it own. 

I don't agree in principle with the system. Why would I volunteer to perpetuate something I find useless. However, feel free. I won't stand in your way  

You still haven't volunteered to moderate full time.

I understand how it works. I think it's a bad system on several levels. You realize that is possible that Steve can be suspended for that, though there seems to be no rhyme or reason to how that punishment is doled out. Absurd. 

Procedure is when something is flagged it is taken down and then reviewed. We cannot afford to have full time moderators, unless you are willing to devote yourself to that task.

I'm disappointed to see Steve Rosenthal's message was taken down which did nothing more than ascribe responsibility for these tariffs where they belong. I think that information is germane as we figure out a way to communicate to our customers the nature and consequence of these tariffs. 

Moderators need to be given more discretion as to when to actually take something down following a "complaint". 

The report from Gregor Heller on shipping companies refusing to ship to the US, presumably as a protest to the Trump tariffs, has potential impact for a variety of things coming out of Germany. 

Taking posts like Mr Rosenthal's down because it, I presume, was deemed a political statement is, in fact, a political statement of it own. 

What do you think the system should be?

I don't agree in principle with the system. Why would I volunteer to perpetuate something I find useless. However, feel free. I won't stand in your way  

You still haven't volunteered to moderate full time.

I understand how it works. I think it's a bad system on several levels. You realize that is possible that Steve can be suspended for that, though there seems to be no rhyme or reason to how that punishment is doled out. Absurd. 

Procedure is when something is flagged it is taken down and then reviewed. We cannot afford to have full time moderators, unless you are willing to devote yourself to that task.

I'm disappointed to see Steve Rosenthal's message was taken down which did nothing more than ascribe responsibility for these tariffs where they belong. I think that information is germane as we figure out a way to communicate to our customers the nature and consequence of these tariffs. 

Moderators need to be given more discretion as to when to actually take something down following a "complaint". 

The report from Gregor Heller on shipping companies refusing to ship to the US, presumably as a protest to the Trump tariffs, has potential impact for a variety of things coming out of Germany. 

Taking posts like Mr Rosenthal's down because it, I presume, was deemed a political statement is, in fact, a political statement of it own. 

You still haven't volunteered to moderate full time.

I understand how it works. I think it's a bad system on several levels. You realize that is possible that Steve can be suspended for that, though there seems to be no rhyme or reason to how that punishment is doled out. Absurd. 

Procedure is when something is flagged it is taken down and then reviewed. We cannot afford to have full time moderators, unless you are willing to devote yourself to that task.

I'm disappointed to see Steve Rosenthal's message was taken down which did nothing more than ascribe responsibility for these tariffs where they belong. I think that information is germane as we figure out a way to communicate to our customers the nature and consequence of these tariffs. 

Moderators need to be given more discretion as to when to actually take something down following a "complaint". 

The report from Gregor Heller on shipping companies refusing to ship to the US, presumably as a protest to the Trump tariffs, has potential impact for a variety of things coming out of Germany. 

Taking posts like Mr Rosenthal's down because it, I presume, was deemed a political statement is, in fact, a political statement of it own. 

At minimum, if the system would send a copy of the message that is up for review to the writer it would give them a chance to revise and resubmit it. This could be automated and done at the same time it is stripped from the forum including the submitters own record of submissions. Besides being the courteous thing to do, might save the reviewers the need to process the comments to some extent.

As I have no copy of my comment, I can't revise it. Perhaps someone who has it from the digest might forward it to me. steven@tuninghawaii.com

You still haven't volunteered to moderate full time.

I understand how it works. I think it's a bad system on several levels. You realize that is possible that Steve can be suspended for that, though there seems to be no rhyme or reason to how that punishment is doled out. Absurd. 

Procedure is when something is flagged it is taken down and then reviewed. We cannot afford to have full time moderators, unless you are willing to devote yourself to that task.

I'm disappointed to see Steve Rosenthal's message was taken down which did nothing more than ascribe responsibility for these tariffs where they belong. I think that information is germane as we figure out a way to communicate to our customers the nature and consequence of these tariffs. 

Moderators need to be given more discretion as to when to actually take something down following a "complaint". 

The report from Gregor Heller on shipping companies refusing to ship to the US, presumably as a protest to the Trump tariffs, has potential impact for a variety of things coming out of Germany. 

Taking posts like Mr Rosenthal's down because it, I presume, was deemed a political statement is, in fact, a political statement of it own. 

I'm disappointed to see Steve Rosenthal's message was taken down which did nothing more than ascribe responsibility for these tariffs where they belong. I think that information is germane as we figure out a way to communicate to our customers the nature and consequence of these tariffs. 

Moderators need to be given more discretion as to when to actually take something down following a "complaint". 

The report from Gregor Heller on shipping companies refusing to ship to the US, presumably as a protest to the Trump tariffs, has potential impact for a variety of things coming out of Germany. 

Taking posts like Mr Rosenthal's down because it, I presume, was deemed a political statement is, in fact, a political statement of it own. 

I'm disappointed to see Steve Rosenthal's message was taken down which did nothing more than ascribe responsibility for these tariffs where they belong. I think that information is germane as we figure out a way to communicate to our customers the nature and consequence of these tariffs. 

Moderators need to be given more discretion as to when to actually take something down following a "complaint". 

The report from Gregor Heller on shipping companies refusing to ship to the US, presumably as a protest to the Trump tariffs, has potential impact for a variety of things coming out of Germany. 

Taking posts like Mr Rosenthal's down because it, I presume, was deemed a political statement is, in fact, a political statement of it own. 

The problem is that it is assumed that with the "simple" signing of an executive order, huge multi-national operations can simply "turn on a dime" and comply with vague and obviously variable (and possibly temporary)  "requirements", and if they don't comply they will be held responsible.  Therefore some shippers have chosen a self protective position and shut down shipping (temporarily) from areas that might now require them to track and collect fees as a result of the deminimus provision deletion. 

This is a "least costly" way of dealing with the roller coaster situation they need to deal with. They are not protesting, but simply covering their rears until they are provided with solid defacto guidance on what is expected of them. Imagine the nightmare of paperwork if it all gets reversed and they have to refund all the fees, or just some of them. I can't imagine it. 

Peter Grey Piano Doctor 

I'm disappointed to see Steve Rosenthal's message was taken down which did nothing more than ascribe responsibility for these tariffs where they belong. I think that information is germane as we figure out a way to communicate to our customers the nature and consequence of these tariffs. 

Moderators need to be given more discretion as to when to actually take something down following a "complaint". 

The report from Gregor Heller on shipping companies refusing to ship to the US, presumably as a protest to the Trump tariffs, has potential impact for a variety of things coming out of Germany. 

Taking posts like Mr Rosenthal's down because it, I presume, was deemed a political statement is, in fact, a political statement of it own. 

I'm disappointed to see Steve Rosenthal's message was taken down which did nothing more than ascribe responsibility for these tariffs where they belong. I think that information is germane as we figure out a way to communicate to our customers the nature and consequence of these tariffs. 

Moderators need to be given more discretion as to when to actually take something down following a "complaint". 

The report from Gregor Heller on shipping companies refusing to ship to the US, presumably as a protest to the Trump tariffs, has potential impact for a variety of things coming out of Germany. 

Taking posts like Mr Rosenthal's down because it, I presume, was deemed a political statement is, in fact, a political statement of it own. 

Nancy --

In a nutshell, and how I understand it, tariffs are paid for by the buyer. Not the seller. In other words, if you want to buy something that costs, say, $10, from a country that is being tariffed, and there is a 100% tariff on it, the seller still charges you only $10 but in order for you to receive it you must pay that additional $10 tariff. That extra $10 then goes straight to our government. The seller is still charging you $10 but It costs you $20 to receive it. But you-know-who believes that the selling country is having to pay that extra $10 to get the item to you and will subsequently suffer that added expense. Ultimately, no matter what you-know-who thinks, that raises the cost to the consumer. The idea being that if it costs too much to buy something from another country you will stop buying it and the other country will somehow suffer. The real outcome is that by our country imposing tariffs on other countries, it makes money off its citizens. Us. Not the other country. In our case, we, the buyers are the only victims. 

Tariffs have always been with us. In the small percentage points that are normally used they pretty much make sense. But when you get into the huge percentage points that are currently being implemented today by the U.S. it feels like we are being punished. Not the other countries. Yes, they have been determined to be illegal but they will continue to be imposed until the government has run out of appeals. 

I understand that shipping has also been affected, and that some countries have stopped shipping to the U.S. altogether because of it, but I really have no idea how that side of the tariffs is working. 

If someone else has a better explanation of how tariffs work, please correct me. 

I'm disappointed to see Steve Rosenthal's message was taken down which did nothing more than ascribe responsibility for these tariffs where they belong. I think that information is germane as we figure out a way to communicate to our customers the nature and consequence of these tariffs. 

Moderators need to be given more discretion as to when to actually take something down following a "complaint". 

The report from Gregor Heller on shipping companies refusing to ship to the US, presumably as a protest to the Trump tariffs, has potential impact for a variety of things coming out of Germany. 

Taking posts like Mr Rosenthal's down because it, I presume, was deemed a political statement is, in fact, a political statement of it own.