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String Splicing pictures/Hazen

  • 1.  String Splicing pictures/Hazen

    Posted 03-24-2003 10:54
    From "Joseph Garrett" <joegarrett@earthlink.net>
    
    I finally got to see the photo/attachment on Hazen's string splice! Thanks
    to a very kind Brian Lawson, clueing me into where to access it in the
    archives![G]
    The "knot" shown, is called a Sheetbend Knot. FYI there are THREE types of
    knots that will work for string splicing: 1.Granny Knot: this is the one
    that most techs use/know about. IMHO, it is the most difficult to do. 2.
    Square Knot: Probably the easiest to do, but has the possibility for
    extemporaneous buzzes, if used in the speaking length. Also, it can slip if
    not pulled up correctly. 3. Sheetbend: a combination of the two previously
    mentioned. Medium skill is required and will not slip.
    Just a FYI thingee. Happy Monday! Hope to see some of you at the Pacific
    NorthWest Regional Conference, starting this Thursday! (BTW, During that
    time, I'll be away from the list, but not off of it, so please keep the BS
    posts to a minimum.<G>)
    Best Regards,
    Joe Garrett, RPT, (Oregon)
    
    Been There, Didn't Like It, So I'm Here To Stay! [G}
    


  • 2.  String Splicing pictures/Hazen

    Posted 03-24-2003 19:14
    From "Dave Nereson" <dnereson@dim.com>
    
    


  • 3.  String Splicing pictures/Hazen

    Posted 03-24-2003 20:04
    From Ron Nossaman <RNossaman@cox.net>
    
    >Can't find a name for the knot used in splicing -- checked the Boy Scout 
    >Handbook, too, and didn't see it.
    
    That's because it's a tuners' knot, and the topological equivalent of a 
    square knot. Boy Scouts deal in topography instead - and starting fires.
    
    
    >But it's a variation on the square knot, or a "twisted" or "reconfigured" 
    >square knot.
    
    Right.
    
    
    >A square knot can be made into our splicing knot and vice versa without 
    >untying all the way.
    
    Or at all, for that matter.
    
    
    >Neither the square knot or our splicing knot is 100% secure with rope -- 
    >if pulled hard enough with some kinds of rope, they will untie.  But for 
    >some reason they work well with wire.
    
    Stiffness relative to breaking strength. There must be a descriptive 
    engineering term, but if there is it escapes me.
    
    
    >     Now all I need is the "official" name of the other knot (the one most 
    > often seen in pianos).
    >     --David Nereson, RPT, Denver
    
    "Tuners' knot". Heck, we ought to get to be in the knot books too, and that 
    won't happen with the "I always replace the string" knot.
    
    Or knot...
    
    Ron N
    


  • 4.  String Splicing pictures/Hazen

    Posted 03-24-2003 20:18
    From <tune4u@earthlink.net>
    
    Ron, baby, quit being so darned funny, will ya? I'm trying to be in a grumpy
    mood.
    
    I remember the knots and ropes classes we took in Navy boot camp (a very
    long time ago). It was more fun than most of the other classes but Bill Bebe
    and I were running a "Sgt. Bilko" kind of operation and skipped almost all
    classes, anyway. But that's another tale...
    
    Thanks for the giggle.
    
    Alan Barnard
    Salem, MO
    
    P.S. Is there a cure for that Tuner Snot thing?
    
    


  • 5.  String Splicing pictures/Hazen

    Posted 03-24-2003 20:35
    From "Kevin E. Ramsey" <kevin.e.ramsey@cox.net>
    
    "P.S. Is there a cure for that Tuner Snot thing?"
    
    
        Not since Steinway's gained fame..........
    
    Kevin E. Ramsey
    


  • 6.  String Splicing pictures

    Posted 03-24-2003 20:45
    From "sid blum" <sid@sover.net>
    
    Would it be possible to establish a website where we could post pictures
    or other files too large for the List?
    
    sid blum
    


  • 7.  String Splicing pictures

    Posted 03-24-2003 21:17
    From "Jonathan Finger" <johann@tollidee.com>
    
    If nobody else volunteers, I have some webspace doing absolutely nothing
    for me right now.  I don't know that I have the time to maintain/write a
    page to support the pics, but is someone else would like to take up that
    torch, I can (at least for the time being) supply the "real estate"
    
    Jonathan Finger RPT
    
    


  • 8.  String Splicing pictures

    Posted 03-24-2003 21:40
    From Kent Swafford <kswafford@earthlink.net>
    
    Yes, the Electronic Communications Committee/List Administrators agree 
    (I think) that this is needed. It's just a matter of figuring out how 
    to do this in a sustainable way within the software that we have 
    already running on the ptg.org server. Workin' on it...
    
    
    Kent Swafford
    
    
    
    On Monday, March 24, 2003, at 09:44  PM, sid blum wrote:
    
    > Would it be possible to establish a website where we could post 
    > pictures
    > or other files too large for the List?
    


  • 9.  String Splicing pictures

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 03-24-2003 21:48
      |   view attached
    From "John Musselwhite" <john@musselwhite.com>
    
    There is the Yahoo Piano-Technicians group at http://groups.yahoo
    com/group/Piano-Technicians/  that allows the uploading of files. Currently
    there are 20 megs available with less than one meg used and the files and
    message areas are open to the public. You may have to join to upload a file
    though. 
    
    Here's a reminder to those who do use Yahoo. Click on your "Account Info"
    visible near the top right on many of your Yahoo pages and then click on 
    Edit Your Marketing Preferences" about half-way down your account info page.
    Make sure all the "No" boxes are checked and that you've checked the two
    boxes on the bottom so they won't send you snailmail or call you on the
    phone and then save your changes. You only need to do this once and it will
    apply to any Yahoo area you use. This will help prevent a lot of
    Yahoo-originated "Spam" from appearing in your mailbox.
    
    Of course, if you enjoy a steady diet of Spam, kindly ignore that last
    paragraph, but please do check out the Yahoo group anyway.
    
                            John
     
    


  • 10.  String Splicing pictures, archives and urls

    Posted 03-25-2003 09:19
      |   view attached
    From "Brian Lawson" <lawsonic@bdmail.co.za>
    
    There is also www.pianotech.org that links to a msn pic site. I may redirect this to the ptg server once that is ready to show the pics, Otherwise any of the pics sent to the list show as a direct url within the archives  http://www.ptg.org/pipermail/pianotech/
    
    Brian
    
    
    
      


  • 11.  String Splicing pictures/Hazen

    Posted 03-24-2003 21:07
    From Ron Nossaman <RNossaman@cox.net>
    
    >"P.S. Is there a cure for that Tuner Snot thing?"
    >
    >Kevin E. Ramsey
    
    
    Gesundheit.
    
    Ron N
    


  • 12.  String Splicing pictures/Hazen

    Posted 03-25-2003 17:06
    From Ron Nossaman <RNossaman@cox.net>
    
    >Can't find a name for the knot used in splicing -- checked the Boy Scout 
    >Handbook, too, and didn't see it.
    
    Hold it! I got it wrong. Sorry about that. My rememberer didn't... then 
    did. While I hate to give the "alwaysreplacethestring" folks this kind of 
    ammunition, it's called a thief's knot. The idea was that it looked like a 
    square knot, and someone going through your kit while you were gone would 
    re-tie it with a standard square knot, telling you someone had been in 
    there without realizing they had told you.
    
    So there it is.
    
    Ron N