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  • 1.  which Allen wrenches to carry

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 10-20-2010 17:47 
    From Barbara Richmond <piano57@comcast.net>

List, 

I'm goofing around with my tool kit again. I'd like to know what size Allen wrenches we techs should carry in our tool kits. You'd think I'd know after 28 years of fumbling around... I thought I'd look into those sets that look and fold up like a pocket knife, but wanted to be sure the sizes I need are included. 

What size is the one for the Everett lid? Is it Everett, right? I think one of the two Allen wrenches that currently reside in my kit is for that. 

What size is the one for the newer Steinway leg setup? Or did I dream that there was a new setup that required one? 

Are there any more? Piano makes and wrench sizes, please! 

Thanks, 

Barbara Richmond, RPT 
near Peoria, Illinois


  • 2.  which Allen wrenches to carry

    Posted 10-20-2010 19:35 
    From "David Nereson" <da88ve@gmail.com>

3/16" might work on Everett lids, but I just measured the 
one I use and it looks more like 7/32".   I've seen Vise-grips 
marks on Everett lid screws when janitors didn't have the right 
one.
    Then I have a 3/8" and an 8mm, for leg and lyre bolts on (I 
think it's) Samick and other Korean pianos. maybe Kawai. 
Haven't noticed the new Steinway set-up.
    Oh, then I have teeny tiny ones for the set screws that hold 
the needles in on my voicing tools.  One of 'em is a 1.5mm, I 
believe, probably for the Yamaha tool, and it was hard to find. 
Had to order 'em from Yamaha, plus extra set screws.
    Can't think of any other places they occur very often, but 
in the tool box for my car, I have those fold-up sets, one SAE 
and the other metric.

  --David Nereson, RPT


  • 3.  which Allen wrenches to carry

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 10-20-2010 21:37 
    From Conrad Hoffsommer <choffsommer@hotmail.com>

Yes, the Everett needs a 7/32", unless a screwdriver has rounded it out.  Some sort of pliers at that point.
The small nest of wrenches doesn't usually get that big.

Conrad Hoffsommer




> From: da88ve@gmail.com
> To: pianotech@ptg.org
> Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 19:34:38 -0600
> Subject: Re: [pianotech] which Allen wrenches to carry
> 
>       3/16" might work on Everett lids, but I just measured the 
> one I use and it looks more like 7/32".   I've seen Vise-grips 
> marks on Everett lid screws when janitors didn't have the right 
>


  • 4.  which Allen wrenches to carry

    Posted 10-20-2010 22:00 
    From Susan Kline <skline@peak.org>

On 10/20/2010 8:36 PM, Conrad Hoffsommer wrote:
>
> Yes, the Everett needs a 7/32", unless a screwdriver has rounded it 
> out.  Some sort of pliers at that point.
> The small nest of wrenches doesn't usually get that big.
>
> Conrad Hoffsommer
That's right, it's a 7/32". When I saw them regularly (Mormon tunings) I 
used to carry one with a screwdriver handle. Since I so seldom come 
across them now, it stays in the car trunk.

Susan


  • 5.  which Allen wrenches to carry

    Posted 10-21-2010 06:27 
    From John Formsma <formsma@gmail.com>

On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 8:34 PM, David Nereson <da88ve@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>


>   Can't think of any other places they occur very often, but in the tool
> box for my car, I have those fold-up sets, one SAE and the other metric.
>
>  --David Nereson, RPT
>
>
>
I also have the ones in my vehicle's tool box. Hardly ever need to use them
for piano work, but nice to have.

Isn't the Samick wrench a 10mm? Just FYI, some bicycle shops might normally
stock that. I bought a set of bike wrenches, and it came with a 10mm. If
it's an 8mm, any bike shop will have that one.  (I see that Jane from Samick
has offered to send one, though.)

-- 
JF


  • 6.  which Allen wrenches to carry

    Posted 10-21-2010 06:46 
    From Paul T Williams <pwilliams4@unlnotes.unl.edu>

And remember the extra tiny one for the brass chopstick tool!  I don't 
know what size it is, but man it's small!

Paul




From:
"David Nereson" <da88ve@gmail.com>
To:
<pianotech@ptg.org>
Date:
10/20/2010 08:40 PM
Subject:
Re: [pianotech] which Allen wrenches to carry



      3/16" might work on Everett lids, but I just measured the 
one I use and it looks more like 7/32".   I've seen Vise-grips 
marks on Everett lid screws when janitors didn't have the right 
one.
    Then I have a 3/8" and an 8mm, for leg and lyre bolts on (I 
think it's) Samick and other Korean pianos. maybe Kawai. 
Haven't noticed the new Steinway set-up.
    Oh, then I have teeny tiny ones for the set screws that hold 
the needles in on my voicing tools.  One of 'em is a 1.5mm, I 
believe, probably for the Yamaha tool, and it was hard to find. 
Had to order 'em from Yamaha, plus extra set screws.
    Can't think of any other places they occur very often, but 
in the tool box for my car, I have those fold-up sets, one SAE 
and the other metric.

  --David Nereson, RPT


  • 7.  which Allen wrenches to carry

    Posted 10-21-2010 17:41 
    From Susan Kline <skline@peak.org>

I took a plastic film can, and a styrofoam peanut. I jabbed the tiny 
Allen wrench into the peanut, and put it into the film can. Then I added 
a needle case for the voicing needles, and some pre-cut brown sticky 
paper for voicing, put the lid on the can, and it went into a ziploc bag 
with some other stuff, and then into my kit.

Exercise in miniaturization.

Susan Kline

On 10/21/2010 5:46 AM, Paul T Williams wrote:
> And remember the extra tiny one for the brass chopstick tool!  I don't 
> know what size it is, but man it's small!
>
> Paul


  • 8.  which Allen wrenches to carry

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 10-20-2010 19:49 
    From "David Love" <davidlovepianos@comcast.net>

Carry one tool that has multiple sizes.


David Love
www.davidlovepianos.com


    
                                                
    
					
                                                    

        
                                                
				
    
                                                
    
                                                    
                                                        
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  • 9.  which Allen wrenches to carry

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 10-20-2010 20:34 
    From tnrwim@aol.com

Barb

Go to a Samick/Kohler& Campbell dealer and they usually have extra Allens for the leg bolts and lyres. For the Everett bolt, Schaff's screws driver blade 32C, (page 41), works. The only problem is, you have to pull the piano out from the wall at least a foot to get the blade in the hole. I don't know of any other piano that needs an Allen. 

Wim







    
                                                
    
					
                                                    

        
                                                
				
    
                                                
    
                                                    
                                                        
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  • 10.  which Allen wrenches to carry

    Posted 10-20-2010 21:17 
    From Ron Nossaman <rnossaman@cox.net>

On 10/20/2010 9:33 PM, tnrwim@aol.com wrote:
> Barb
> Go to a Samick/Kohler& Campbell dealer and they usually have extra
> Allens for the leg bolts and lyres. For the Everett bolt, Schaff's
> screws driver blade 32C, (page 41), works. The only problem is, you have
> to pull the piano out from the wall at least a foot to get the blade in
> the hole. I don't know of any other piano that needs an Allen.
> Wim

Years back, I got a call on one of these. Someone had muscled the lid 
up, ripping out the pins, and leaving the lid bobbing on the brackets 
like a Pep Boys bobblehead. I thought it was sort of cute, but they 
insisted it be fixed, so I took the opportunity to install actual 
hinges, and retire the Allen bolts and brackets. Otherwise, I just use 
the screwdriver blade.

What you need in Allen wrenches is contingent on what you do, just like 
anything else. Player service, for instance, requires more and different 
tooling.

Barb, I'd say if you think you might not have what you need by now, you 
likely don't need at least some of what you have. I know I don't. 
There's just the problem of determining which is what.
Ron N


  • 11.  which Allen wrenches to carry

    Posted 10-21-2010 14:24 
    From "Piano Boutique" <pianoboutique@comcast.net>

Barbara,

Glad to hear that there is another out there like me.  I don't think I will ever have a perfect tool kit, but even after more years than you, I keep trying.  I have a little pouch that was a store set and I am sure it is still lurking in the bottom of my kit, though can't say when I used it last.  It is like my nose bolt problem:  I won't think about it until I am cornered and need to.

William



  
    
                                                
    
					
                                                    

        
                                                
				
    
                                                
    
                                                    
                                                        
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  • 12.  which Allen wrenches to carry

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 10-20-2010 21:06 
    From Zeno Wood <zeno.wood@gmail.com>

Hey Barbara,

I found two sets of allen wrenches swiss army style, standard and metric, at
Lowe's for a ridiculously low price.  BUT, they didn't work for rebuilding
the Jansen artist bench.  The correct size is in there, but you can't fit it
in the right place with the wrench attached to the handle.  So, I went and
bought a set of allen wrenches that all snap into an odd shaped plastic
thingy but you can take each one out separately.

The Jansen artist bench requires two different sizes, I'll see if I can look
it up tomorrow.

-Zeno Wood


  • 13.  which Allen wrenches to carry

    Posted 10-20-2010 21:09 
    From Isaac Sadigursky <irs.pianos@earthlink.net>

Hi,Zeno!
The best Allen wrench for Jansen benches is T-Handle type with Long  
Handle to tighten Handles Set Screws.
isaac
On Oct 20, 2010, at 8:06 PM, Zeno Wood wrote:

> Hey Barbara,
>
> I found two sets of allen wrenches swiss army style, standard and  
> metric, at Lowe's for a ridiculously low price.  BUT, they didn't  
> work for rebuilding the Jansen artist bench.  The correct size is in  
> there, but you can't fit it in the right place with the wrench  
> attached to the handle.  So, I went and bought a set of allen  
> wrenches that all snap into an odd shaped plastic thingy but you can  
> take each one out separately.
>
> The Jansen artist bench requires two different sizes, I'll see if I  
> can look it up tomorrow.
>
> -Zeno Wood


  • 14.  which Allen wrenches to carry

    Posted 10-20-2010 21:22 
    From "Joe Goss" <imatunr@srvinet.com>

Hi,
I like the ones on a ring 
held on by a spring
A individual allen can be removed by twisting counter clock wise, and easily replaced.
Available in standard and metric and metric black color and silver standard.
Joe Goss BSMusEd MMusEd RPT
imatunr@srvinet.com
www.mothergoosetools.com
  
    
                                                
    
					
                                                    

        
                                                
				
    
                                                
    
                                                    
                                                        
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  • 15.  which Allen wrenches to carry

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 10-21-2010 06:53 
    From David Skolnik <davidskolnik@optonline.net>

Zeno & -
I know you would have gotten to this, but here are the sizes and a 
link to Mary Scwendeman's reprinted article that appears on the Jansen site:

3/32"
1/8"
(2) 3/16"


http://www.pljansen.com/Rebuilding_the_Jansen_Artist_Bench.pdf

David Skolnik


At 11:06 PM 10/20/2010, you wrote:
>Hey Barbara,
>
>I found two sets of allen wrenches swiss army style, standard and 
>metric, at Lowe's for a ridiculously low price.  BUT, they didn't 
>work for rebuilding the Jansen artist bench.  The correct size is in 
>there, but you can't fit it in the right place with the wrench 
>attached to the handle.  So, I went and bought a set of allen 
>wrenches that all snap into an odd shaped plastic thingy but you can 
>take each one out separately.
>
>The Jansen artist bench requires two different sizes, I'll see if I 
>can look it up tomorrow.
>
>-Zeno Wood


  • 16.  which Allen wrenches to carry

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 10-20-2010 21:17 
    From Barbara Richmond <piano57@comcast.net>

The plot thickens.... 

Thanks, Zeno! 

Barbara 


    
                                                
    
					
                                                    

        
                                                
				
    
                                                
    
                                                    
                                                        
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  • 17.  which Allen wrenches to carry

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 10-20-2010 21:32 
    From Barbara Richmond <piano57@comcast.net>

Hey, I've got a whole set of those!! :-) 

You're right, Ron N, I've got a lot of stuff, I'm just trying to figure out what I really need. 
Some people spring clean. I go through a fall nesting thing every year--if one can nest about one's tools. :-) 

br 



    
                                                
    
					
                                                    

        
                                                
				
    
                                                
    
                                                    
                                                        
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  • 18.  which Allen wrenches to carry

    Posted 10-20-2010 21:32 
    From limhseng@gmail.com

I carry a 8mm allen wrench mostly for newer SnS Ds and Bs leg bolts and a 4mm for the sostenuto system. 
Lim
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  • 19.  which Allen wrenches to carry

    Posted 10-20-2010 22:34 
    From Qshooterq@aol.com

If you are ever caught without an Allen wrench for an Everett, the back of 
any combination tool works.   Just snap on a vise grip as a handle.      
---Tom Gorley


  • 20.  which Allen wrenches to carry

    Posted 10-20-2010 22:59 
    From limhseng@gmail.com

Hi Susan, what are Mormon tuinings?

Lim
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  • 21.  which Allen wrenches to carry

    Posted 10-21-2010 01:58 
    From Susan Kline <skline@peak.org>

On 10/20/2010 9:58 PM, limhseng@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi Susan, what are Mormon tuinings?
>
> Lim
For about seven years I tuned for the local Mormon Church (Latter Day 
Saints.) They have everything all organized from a central office, and 
every piano gets tuned twice a year. Which brand of pianos they buy is 
decided in Salt Lake City. For a few years they were buying a lot of 
Everett uprights, so I had several to tune during each cycle. (And I 
voiced them -- they got awfully bright.)

Susan Kline


  • 22.  which Allen wrenches to carry

    Posted 10-21-2010 04:36 
    From Jane Jones <jjmusic@bellsouth.net>

Hi Barbara,
Contact me at jjones@smcmusic.com or 615-206-0077, xt. 148 and I will be happy to send you one for Samick product legs and lyre.
Thanks,
Jane

--- On Wed, 10/20/10, Barbara Richmond <piano57@comcast.net> wrote:

From: Barbara Richmond <piano57@comcast.net>
Subject: [pianotech] which Allen wrenches to carry
To: "pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
Date: Wednesday, October 20, 2010, 7:54 PM

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I'm goofing around with my tool kit again.? I'd like to know what size Allen wrenches we techs should carry in our tool kits. You'd think I'd know after 28 years of fumbling around...? I thought I'd look into those sets that look and fold up like a pocket knife, but wanted to be sure the sizes I need are included.

What size is the one for the Everett lid?? Is it Everett, right?? I think one of the two Allen wrenches that currently reside in my kit is for that.

What size is the one for the newer Steinway leg setup?? Or did I dream that there was a new setup that required one?

Are there any more?? Piano makes and wrench sizes, please!

Thanks,

Barbara Richmond, RPT
near Peoria, Illinois


  • 23.  which Allen wrenches to carry

    Posted 10-21-2010 05:42 
    From Les Koltvedt <t4348lk@yahoo.com>

You might want to look for allen wrenches that have a ball end instead of the 
typical flat end.  Allows you to be at a little bit of an angle and still have 
good engagement, almost acts like a mini swivel.

www.allenwrenchset.net/ 

Les  

Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 21:22:01 -0600
From: "Joe Goss" <imatunr@srvinet.com>
To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
Subject: Re: [pianotech] which Allen wrenches to carry
Message-ID: <EDFB298A171D4291B190C31A2E34AD4A@GossPC>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Hi,
I like the ones on a ring 
held on by a spring
A individual allen can be removed by twisting counter clock wise, and easily 
replaced.
Available in standard and metric and metric black color and silver standard.
Joe Goss BSMusEd MMusEd RPT
imatunr@srvinet.com
www.mothergoosetools.com


  • 24.  which Allen wrenches to carry

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 10-21-2010 06:12 
    From Conrad Hoffsommer <choffsommer@hotmail.com>

FWIW, I've found that those ball end ones are great for newish deep socket screws. They tend to cam out in shallower head and//worn screws... moreso as angle increases.

Conrad Hoffsommer




Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 04:42:05 -0700
From: t4348lk@yahoo.com
To: pianotech@ptg.org
Subject: [pianotech] which Allen wrenches to carry



You might want to look for allen wrenches that have a ball end instead of the typical flat end.  Allows you to be at a little bit of an angle and still have good engagement, almost acts like a mini swivel.

www.allenwrenchset.net/ 

Les  

Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 21:22:01 -0600
From: "Joe Goss" <imatunr@srvinet.com>
To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
Subject: Re: [pianotech] which Allen wrenches to carry
Message-ID: <EDFB298A171D4291B190C31A2E34AD4A@GossPC>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Hi,
I like the ones on a ring 
held on by a spring
A
 individual allen can be removed by twisting counter clock wise, and easily replaced.
Available in standard and metric and metric black color and silver standard.
Joe Goss BSMusEd MMusEd RPT
imatunr@srvinet.com
www.mothergoosetools.com


  • 25.  which Allen wrenches to carry

    Posted 10-21-2010 09:58 
    From Kazuo Yoshizaki <matrasimca@gmail.com>

Try Hex-plus allen wrenches made by Wera or Facom. They work very well.

http://mdmetric.com/fhex.htm

Yoshi

On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 8:11 AM, Conrad Hoffsommer
<choffsommer@hotmail.com> wrote:
> FWIW, I've found that those ball end ones are great for newish deep socket
> screws. They tend to cam out in shallower head and//worn screws... moreso as
> angle increases.
>
> Conrad Hoffsommer
>
>
>
>


  • 26.  which Allen wrenches to carry

    Posted 10-21-2010 10:05 
    From Isaac Sadigursky <irs.pianos@earthlink.net>

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Isaac Sadigursky <irs.pianos@earthlink.net>
> Date: October 21, 2010 9:00:40 AM PDT
> To: Isaac Sadigursky <irs.pianos@earthlink.net>
> Subject: Fwd: [pianotech] which Allen wrenches to carry
>
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>> From: Isaac Sadigursky <isaacspianoservice@gmail.com>
>> Date: October 21, 2010 8:41:38 AM PDT
>> To: pianotech@ptg.org
>> Subject: Re: [pianotech] which Allen wrenches to carry
>>
>> For Samick Legs and Lyres I like to use hex-sockets attached to an  
>> 3/8" socket.It is designed for Car Mechanics and is available in  
>> Automotive stores and some Hardware stores.
>> Samick uses 3/8 " and fpr Schimmel plates -12mm.
>> No need to move piano away to create clearance for an L-wrench.  
>> when tightening Samick Legs.
>> Also,3/8" sockets are more compact.
>> To avoid loosing Tiny hex-wrenches for voicing needles,I like to  
>> attach them to a small piece of magnet.
>> Hope,it helps.
>> isaac
>> On Oct 21, 2010, at 5:26 AM, John Formsma wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 8:34 PM, David Nereson <da88ve@gmail.com>  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>   Can't think of any other places they occur very often, but in  
>>> the tool box for my car, I have those fold-up sets, one SAE and  
>>> the other metric.
>>>
>>>  --David Nereson, RPT
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I also have the ones in my vehicle's tool box. Hardly ever need to  
>>> use them for piano work, but nice to have.
>>>
>>> Isn't the Samick wrench a 10mm? Just FYI, some bicycle shops might  
>>> normally stock that. I bought a set of bike wrenches, and it came  
>>> with a 10mm. If it's an 8mm, any bike shop will have that one.  (I  
>>> see that Jane from Samick has offered to send one, though.)
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> JF
>>
>


  • 27.  which Allen wrenches to carry

    Posted 10-21-2010 16:03 
    From John Formsma <formsma@gmail.com>

You're talking about something like this, right?
http://www.amazon.com/Neiko-Pro-Grade-13-Piece-Wrench-Socket/dp/B000GYLCHK/ref=pd_bxgy_hi_text_b

If so, that's a good suggestion.  Another great tip from the one and only
Isaac--thanks! :-)

--
JF

On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:05 AM, Isaac Sadigursky <irs.pianos@earthlink.net
> wrote:

>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>
> For Samick Legs and Lyres I like to use hex-sockets attached to an 3/8"
> socket.It is designed for Car Mechanics and is available in Automotive
> stores and some Hardware stores.
> Samick uses 3/8 " and fpr Schimmel plates -12mm.
> No need to move piano away to create clearance for an L-wrench. when
> tightening Samick Legs.
> Also,3/8" sockets are more compact.
> To avoid loosing Tiny hex-wrenches for voicing needles,I like to attach
> them to a small piece of magnet.
> Hope,it helps.
> isaac
>
>


  • 28.  which Allen wrenches to carry

    Posted 10-21-2010 23:38 
    From Isaac Sadigursky <irs.pianos@earthlink.net>

Hi,john!
Yes,those are the Hex wrenches,
For tightening Piano Legs and lyres,they provide appropriate torque.
Good luck!!
  isaac
On Oct 21, 2010, at 3:03 PM, John Formsma wrote:

> You're talking about something like this, right?
> http://www.amazon.com/Neiko-Pro-Grade-13-Piece-Wrench-Socket/dp/B000GYLCHK/ref=pd_bxgy_hi_text_b
>
> If so, that's a good suggestion.  Another great tip from the one and  
> only Isaac--thanks! :-)
>
> --
> JF
>
> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:05 AM, Isaac Sadigursky <irs.pianos@earthlink.net 
> > wrote:
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>>>
>>> For Samick Legs and Lyres I like to use hex-sockets attached to an  
>>> 3/8" socket.It is designed for Car Mechanics and is available in  
>>> Automotive stores and some Hardware stores.
>>> Samick uses 3/8 " and fpr Schimmel plates -12mm.
>>> No need to move piano away to create clearance for an L-wrench.  
>>> when tightening Samick Legs.
>>> Also,3/8" sockets are more compact.
>>> To avoid loosing Tiny hex-wrenches for voicing needles,I like to  
>>> attach them to a small piece of magnet.
>>> Hope,it helps.
>>> isaac


  • 29.  which Allen wrenches to carry

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 10-21-2010 11:11 
    From Barbara Richmond <piano57@comcast.net>

As usual...a great idea, Isaac! 

I was looking on-line. It's not so easy to locate a 12mm hex bit socket with a 3/8" drive--on-line, anyway (12mm is usually on a 1/2" drive). I found a couple, though, one at Sears. Guess I'll head down the street to the local automotive place to see what they have. I'll store those in the heavy, stay-in-the-car tool case with all the wrenches, socket set, etc. 

Any comments about the lengths of bits offered? Is there a time/situation when one would like to use a longer bit? I have one Samick grand on my books, and I have to admit, when I serviced it, I only grabbed the lyre to see if it was loose--I didn't take a look to see how it was attached. 

Thanks to everyone for your help. 

Barbara Richmond, RPT 
near Peoria, Illinois 




    
                                                
    
					
                                                    

        
                                                
				
    
                                                
    
                                                    
                                                        
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  • 30.  which Allen wrenches to carry

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 10-22-2010 01:02 
    From "David Stocker" <firtreepiano@hotmail.com>

3/8” hex is the same bit used for brake calipers on automotive disc brakes. It is available for 3/8” drive as well as 1/2”. Every auto supply store has them.

In the olden days, I did a lot of my own car repairs. Changing disc pads is about all I do anymore. 

David Stocker, RPT
Tumwater, WA

From: Barbara Richmond 
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 10:12
To: pianotech@ptg.org 
Subject: Re: [pianotech] Fwd: which Allen wrenches to carry

As usual...a great idea, Isaac!

I was looking on-line.  It's not so easy to locate a 12mm hex bit socket with a 3/8" drive--on-line, anyway (12mm is usually on a 1/2" drive).   I found a couple, though, one at Sears.  Guess I'll head down the street to the local automotive place to see what they have.   I'll store those in the heavy, stay-in-the-car tool case with all the wrenches, socket set, etc.

Any comments about the lengths of bits offered?  Is there a time/situation when one would like to use a longer bit?  I have one Samick grand on my books, and I have to admit, when I serviced it, I only grabbed the lyre to see if it was loose--I didn't take a look to see how it was attached.

Thanks to everyone for your help.

Barbara Richmond, RPT
near Peoria, Illinois




    
                                                
    
					
                                                    

        
                                                
				
    
                                                
    
                                                    
                                                        
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  • 31.  which Allen wrenches to carry

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 10-21-2010 11:11 
    From Barbara Richmond <piano57@comcast.net>

Oops, I don't need that for a Samick. Yeah, I can read.... I just can't retain. 

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  • 32.  which Allen wrenches to carry

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 10-21-2010 12:07 
    From Zeno Wood <zeno.wood@gmail.com>

Barbara,
Try Mcmaster Carr.
-Zeno
<http://www.mcmaster.com/#55005A48>


  • 33.  which Allen wrenches to carry

    Posted 10-21-2010 16:08 
    From Jon Page <jonpage@comcast.net>

2  One 3/8" for Asian piano legs, one 7/32" for Everett studio lids.

Never needed anything else in 35 years for piano field work.
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Regards,

Jon Page