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  • 1.  "RURAL" TECHS

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 08-27-2020 10:08

    Hello All,

    "Rural" is in quotes in the subject line because it's impossible to bunch techs together into just 1 category (or 2, rural vs urban), but within the rural spectrum, what are the differences in various rural settings? How much common ground is there? Are there universal differences between rural and urban settings? How are directions and driving routes different between flatlands, lowlands, hill-lands, & highlands? What compromises are made when there is "no signal"? What is different about transportation and road (or other) hazard preparedness? What is different about unexpected piano problem preparedness? What is different regarding the quantity and quality of non-profits? Are there different aesthetic tastes that lend toward different styles of tuning? What questions am I not asking because I can't see the forest through the trees? Does this topic interest anyone in any setting, including urban? Can we learn from each other? Are some rural tuners going to ignore this because they're too busy driving? Are there any rural tuners willing to "reply privately" to me if you don't want to bother with the forum? LOL!

    Any takers?



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    Maggie Jusiel, RPT
    Athens, WV
    (304)952-8615
    mags@timandmaggie.net
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  • 2.  RE: "RURAL" TECHS

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 08-27-2020 10:23
    If we get enough interest here,,I can set up a zoom panel discussion on Southeast Seminars. 

     

     

    http://bit.ly/Schedule_My_Piano

     

    "Good, better, best; never let it rest, 'til the good is better and better best!"


    "Providing quality service for the world's pianos" (When the world opens back up)

     

    Join us: 63rd ANNUAL PTG CONVENTION & TECHNICAL INSTITUTE
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    Aug 4-7, 2021

     

    George W.R. "Bill" Davis, RPT, SERVP

    The Piano Place GA

    2315 Rocky Mountain Rd NE

    Marietta GA 30066

    www.pianoplace.net

    bill@pianoplace.net


    Sent from my iPhone





  • 3.  RE: "RURAL" TECHS

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 08-27-2020 11:31
    I'm interested, if for no other reason to hear everyones stories.
    Yes, I'm a rural tuner where I've increased my tuning radius to about 100 miles, and "up" and "down" are actually viable directions. I used to drive through snow that was higher than the snowplows so it curled over the road, creating a snow tunnel. Now I consider bad weather a risk rather than a challenge. Getting old.
    Nancy





  • 4.  RE: "RURAL" TECHS

    Posted 08-27-2020 12:14
    Summer tourist traffic on a cloudy day here is like rush hour in any city.  My limits are set by a bridge at one end and the end of the peninsula on the other, I'm about mid point. The land is 7 miles wide at my location.

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    Regards,

    Jon Page
    mailto:jonpage@comcast.net
    http://www.pianocapecod.com
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  • 5.  RE: "RURAL" TECHS

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 08-27-2020 22:03
    Jon,

    Is there an "off" season for tourists? How long is your peninsula? Do you tune outside your peninsula, and if so, is it more or less rural?

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    Maggie Jusiel, RPT
    Athens, WV
    (304)952-8615
    mags@timandmaggie.net
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  • 6.  RE: "RURAL" TECHS

    Posted 08-28-2020 00:30
    Maggie, Cape Cod is about 90 miles long. If I were to classify the type, I'd say more suburban. Not many wide open spaces and much of the wooded areas have been developed. A few small cities but mostly villages. Occasionally, I'll have a tuning that is over the bridge.  The 'season' is July 4 to Labor Day. But this year has been rather light.

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    Regards,

    Jon Page
    mailto:jonpage@comcast.net
    http://www.pianocapecod.com
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  • 7.  RE: "RURAL" TECHS

    Posted 08-29-2020 07:28
    I have to correct myself, there are wide open spaces here...

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    Regards,

    Jon Page
    mailto:jonpage@comcast.net
    http://www.pianocapecod.com
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  • 8.  RE: "RURAL" TECHS

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 08-27-2020 14:32
    After working in both rural and urban settings I have a few comments. St. Louis traffic at times could be very frustrating, but then going from East to West on the H1 during rush hour can be a challenge, too.  On the other side of that spectrum, I fly to neighboring island to service pianos, and driving in those sparsely populated is rather nice. I drive the "road to Hana" once a year. The Hana highway is only 55 miles long, and can take up to 3 hours because of all the one lane bridges. But scenery is worth every mile.  

    Back in Alabama I would gather a day worth of tuning is small towns an hour or two away from my home base in Tuscaloosa. Driving long distances at a high speed offered it's own challenges. 

    I also tuned pianos in Southern Colorado. The directions to one particular customer: Take County highway 9 for 6.6 miles, and turn right over the cattle crossing. You'll be on a wagon trail.  When you get to "the tree", turn right. Turn left on the trail in the 3 canyon. We are at the back of the fourth canyon on your left. 

    But regardless of where the pianos are, once I sit down in front of one, it's business as usual. I go into my "tuning mode", and tuning a piano in  small out of the way town is the same as the piano on the 35th floor of an apartment building in the middle of Waikiki.

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    Willem "Wim" Blees, RPT
    Mililani, HI 96789
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  • 9.  RE: "RURAL" TECHS

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 08-27-2020 17:10
    Wim, the next time you're on the Road to Hana stop at the 3 Bears for me please?!?

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    -Phil Bondi
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  • 10.  RE: "RURAL" TECHS

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 08-27-2020 17:17
    Phil

    I've driven the road about 6 times, but I don't remember seeing 3 Bears.  About where is it?  And when I stop by, what do i tell them?

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    Willem "Wim" Blees, RPT
    Mililani, HI 96789
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  • 11.  RE: "RURAL" TECHS

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 08-28-2020 09:12
    Tell them Phil still feels terrible and apologizes deeply but replacing the cow is simply not an option.

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    Eric Johnson [RPT]
    [Eric Johnson Pianos]
    [Westport] [CT]
    www.ericjohnsonpianos.com
    One year older and dumber.
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  • 12.  RE: "RURAL" TECHS

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 08-27-2020 22:44

    I have kind of a mixed service area. My service area covers two counties, roughly an hour and a half drive north or south. (There's not really an east, and west... gets wet quickly.) In that service area are roughly 500,000 people, but hardly evenly spread out. In the cities from south up north: 90k people, 30k, 6k, 7k, 55k, 2k, 100k, 15k, 8k, 24k, 60k, 15k, etc, not to mention all the unincorporated areas. Each city is at least a 15 minute drive from the next, and some half an hour or more.

    It's not uncommon for me to drive an hour to one of the outlining cities, tune at least two pianos there, and / or tune a piano in a different city on the same trip. Needless to say, I've got a lot of drive time, but not too much traffic, thankfully. It makes charging a (sometimes large) travel fee necessary, which some clients don't like. Oh well, they can find someone else. That's the reality of working here. 


    My problem is not the "no signal" message, which only comes up occasionally. My main issue with directions is that the GPS will sometimes route me to a house on a hill, and say I've arrived at the bottom of the hill, but there's not a driveway in sight. Having to call the client and ask for better directions... keeps me humble. As Wim said, I sometimes get the "turn at the tree" directions, which are always fun.


    In answer to Maggie's question about tools, I carry my small (as in, metro ready) tool case with me in the front seat and into homes. It contains only my tuning, basic regulation, and voicing tools, plus screwdrivers, etc. That covers about 90% of my work. The other 10% is covered by the tools that are in my trunk. I have a big ~45 pound tool divider (really fancy tackle box) that carries most of the repair and lesser used tools. Of course sometimes actions come back to the shop for more messy / involved jobs.


    Clients are mostly regular people, some retirees, and a few of CA's ultra wealthy mixed in. It's not uncommon for me to work with an "everyday millionaire," i.e. someone who has paid off their home and invested in retirement consistently, and is worth over a million dollars now, decades after they started. Upright to grand ratio is about 40%:60%, respectively. It's an interesting market. 



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    Benjamin Sanchez, RPT
    Piano Technician / Artisan
    (805) 315-8050
    www.professional-piano-services.com
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  • 13.  RE: "RURAL" TECHS

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 08-28-2020 09:05
    Thanks for such a thorough answer to my questions!

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    Maggie Jusiel, RPT
    Athens, WV
    (304)952-8615
    mags@timandmaggie.net
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  • 14.  RE: "RURAL" TECHS

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 08-27-2020 22:54
    Yes Maggie,

    I am interested and spent almost half of my career in rural Missouri and the rest in urban areas of the state.  Rural tuning does give one lots of white line time to ponder just how did that mouse build a split level duplex in the tenor section of the action.  As other techs have said the challenges change more by mileage than complication.  I think in many ways I miss the creativity that is required to solve the problems for my rural clients.  However, as Wim said. once you start tuning rural or urban does not matter.  A-440 is the same in secluded 'hollers' as it is in the concert hall. 

    I think a focus on how to communicate to rural clients the importance of diligence regarding piano care should be a topic that might generate some useful ideas.

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    Kenneth Jeffs
    Chesterfield MO
    573-960-6389
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  • 15.  RE: "RURAL" TECHS

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 08-28-2020 09:09
    "...just how did that mouse build a split level duplex in the tenor section of the action."

    HAHAHA! I can empathize. ;-)

    "I think a focus on how to communicate to rural clients the importance of diligence regarding piano care should be a topic that might generate some useful ideas."
     
    See...that's the kind of thing I wouldn't have thought about. It never occurred to me a rural client might be different from an urban one regarding maintenance issues.

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    Maggie Jusiel, RPT
    Athens, WV
    (304)952-8615
    mags@timandmaggie.net
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  • 16.  RE: "RURAL" TECHS

    Posted 08-28-2020 07:05
    "No Signal" means you go to the nice looking house at the entrance to the 'holler' as being the least likely to shoot you before you ask directions 😜

    And then the lady of the house give you directions to your client, as well as the family history of every person on the road. 😂

    It's not *really* a rural tuning until the neighbors find out you are tuning the piano and ask if they can come over and watch since there’s nothing else to do.

    Oh, and directions: “turn left there where the Smith’s barn got burnt about ten years ago, cross the crick (no bridge) and drive till you see that shed that was green before they painted it I-forget-what-color last year. Then we’re the third house after that.”

    Yes, all of those have happened to me. Usually south of Logan 😂

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    Jonathan Cleghorn, MME
    Iron Range Piano Co.
    Serving Duluth and Northeastern MN
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  • 17.  RE: "RURAL" TECHS

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 08-28-2020 08:40
    Well said Jonathan.
    I've experienced all that but with the advantage of being female so not likely to get shot, less threatening.
    My piano mover travels armed.
    But things are changing. The percentage of homes with shotguns by the door are far fewer these days. Though if you're an hour away from any police or natural resources officers I can understand the necessity.
    Nancy Salmon





  • 18.  RE: "RURAL" TECHS

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 08-28-2020 09:03
    Oh, I forget to you tell that learning to identify tree types from a moving car on a gravel is essential. Things like “turn left at the big Oak just past the low water bridge”.

    These may sound funny but they happen. We are not trying in anyway to poke fun or ridicule. They are truly essentials to the charm of living the rural tuners life.

    :) Ken

    Sent from my iPhone




  • 19.  RE: "RURAL" TECHS

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 08-28-2020 14:25
    Those sound like completely normal directions to me! It took me a while to get a feel for the difference between a knob, hill, & mountain. I have one customer whose driveway is so easy to miss she puts a pinwheel by her entrance. LOL

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    Maggie Jusiel, RPT
    Athens, WV
    (304)952-8615
    mags@timandmaggie.net
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  • 20.  RE: "RURAL" TECHS

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 08-28-2020 09:04
    HAHA! Jonathan & I share similar stories because he used to live near me, and our work areas overlapped by a wee bit.  😂

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    Maggie Jusiel, RPT
    Athens, WV
    (304)952-8615
    mags@timandmaggie.net
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  • 21.  RE: "RURAL" TECHS

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 08-29-2020 11:43

    Oh man, Jonathan, that cracked me up.  I didn't know there were hollers in Michigan – I thought that was an Appalachian thing.

     

    I once tuned a piano and my customer and her teenage daughter sat the whole time and listened.  It wasn't background sound while they did something else, they actually listened.  It was a school day and the girl skipped classes so she could be home while I was there.  It was not a rural area – Lakewood WA, a suburb of Tacoma, where I live.






  • 22.  RE: "RURAL" TECHS

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 08-28-2020 09:56

    Ok. This sounds like the topic would be educational,beneficial,and FUN. So....

    I will set up a Southeast Seminar ZOOM session. 

    Topic:  True Life experiences of a Rural Tech: What you really need to know!

    Which I think will cover just about everything from economics to wilderness. 

    I'll need a couple or 4 willing to "host" with me but I anticipate a good time. 

    some pictures to share might be good too

    how about a Saturday evening?  Is that a better day?



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    "PTG - Expand your Horizon. Share the Vision"
    "Promoting Quality Service for the World's Pianos"
    "Good, Better, Best. Never let it rest. 'Til the good is better, and the better best."

    George W.R. "Bill Davis", RPT, SERVP
    2315 Rocky Mountain Rd NE
    Marietta GA 30066-2113
    CP: 770-778-6881
    bill@pianoplace.net
    www.pianoplace.net
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  • 23.  RE: "RURAL" TECHS

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 08-28-2020 11:15

    Could this be shared with the Columbia chapter in Columbia Missouri?  We have a number of new and experienced rural technicians who could benefit and provide input.

     

    Maybe if could be added to our district also?

     

    Ken

     

     

    Sent from Mail for Windows 10

     






  • 24.  RE: "RURAL" TECHS

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 08-29-2020 10:15

    Hi George,
    As a tuner in southern Oregon, I've been gathering clients up in the Cascade mountains, and in the far north of CA (someone please tell me why the Bay Area is called "Northern California" when there's still 300 miles of state left?). For rural tuning, I carry a LOT of stuff- I do not want to have to return. The lack of even small items can ruin your day. For example, I recently drove up a very steep, long drive to the top of a mountain to tune and clean a grand. I had everything in the truck but the dowel I use to prop up case lids, and the piano, a tiny Chickering grand, lacked a long stick. I was able to clean it, but it was a hassle with a lid that didn't go up very far.
    Owners seldom realize their piano has a mouse infestation, or that a string has broken. Forgetting even the smallest items, such as extra batteries for a micrometer, extension cords, or spare parts can cause headaches. I've set up charging stations in the car so my flashlights are always charged up. An inverter in the vehicle might be used to plug in a vac and blow to clean out an action in the driveway if there are no outlets close enough.

    I'd assume that the experienced techs reading this travel with everything they need. But for those just venturing out, perhaps your discussion could have examples of small, seemingly insignificant items, the lack of which caused problems?

    Another topic could be vehicle-related: Do you have spare motor oil, coolant, and windshield washer fluid? Duct tape to fix a leaky radiator hose? Leather gloves? AAA or some other towing service? Any clue how to use your jack? Do you have a way to charge your cell phone? There's nothing like a cell phone that's dying when you're trying to call for a tow and a ride. Because it will.



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    Scott Cole, RPT
    rvpianotuner.com
    Talent, OR
    (541-601-9033
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  • 25.  RE: "RURAL" TECHS

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 08-29-2020 11:36
    Whilst living in the Moors of North Yorkshire, England, it was quite common going through farmland.  One in particular was the directions to go past the sign that says, "Unsuitable for motor vehicles", then past the third cattle grate.  Still, you can't help but love the area with green rolling hills and rock walls.
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    Jim Fariss, RPT
    PTG Secretary/Treasurer
    (719) 425-8845
    Sec@PTG.org
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  • 26.  RE: "RURAL" TECHS

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 08-29-2020 15:19
    Scott

    As I said in my earlier post, I fly to neighboring islands. When I do, all I take with me is my basic tuning kit, which includes my tool roll, glues and lubricants, my SAT, towel, and other small items. It's amazing how creative I can get making repairs with limited tools.

    When I come to a piano that needs strings or parts I don't have, or repairs I don't have time to do, I schedule another trip, sometimes as much as a year later.  When I go to Hana once a year I take a suitcase in which I will take strings, or other parts I need. But I have to check the suite case along with my tool bag. 

    I actually enjoy taking a day or two to fly to another island. I don't make as much money as I could if I spent the day on Oahu, but it gives me a chance to see other parts of Hawaii, and just enjoy the day.

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    Willem "Wim" Blees, RPT
    Mililani, HI 96789
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  • 27.  RE: "RURAL" TECHS

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 08-30-2020 13:27

    Scott's post brought back many fond memories. I also serviced pianos in rural Oregon when I first started my career. May I mention some of the things I remember? The time the directions to the client's location read turn left at the post office in town and drive to the end of the road. I expected that to be a block or two.  After driving for what seemed to be forever, I thought it was best to ask the farmer working in his field if he could confirm I was going in the right direction. He assured me I was headed in the right direction and would arrive there in another 10 or 15 miles. I member the day a was eating lunch at the local "convenience" store upon hearing a loud noise, turned to see an airplane pulling up to the gas pumps. After apparently filling up he started his engine, turned around, and took off. Main Street was obviously the community landing strip. I do miss the clients who would put you up for the night. Others who would suggest you come a little early because you were the first tune for the day and they would have breakfast ready for you. Some would check to make sure you had enough gas to make it to the remainder of your appointment for the day. If not, you were invited to drive down to the gas pump and fill up your tank. One would invite me to come to the house the night before and stay in the bunk house that was always stocked with fresh food so I could get an early start on the piano the next day. I remember they were both rated fixed wing and helicopter pilots because they needed this to be able to herd their cattle.

     

    Thank you for bringing back just a few of many of those memories.  

     

    Keith Kopp

     

    801-235-8077

    pianokopp@comcast.net

     






  • 28.  RE: "RURAL" TECHS

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 08-30-2020 13:30

    Sis you go in Harney or Malhure counties?  Nothing out there. Been there, done that!

    Paul






  • 29.  RE: "RURAL" TECHS

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 08-30-2020 13:31

    Sis?  I wrote Did!






  • 30.  RE: "RURAL" TECHS

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 08-31-2020 02:25

    Yes, also Lake county. Not much there either.

     

     

    Keith Kopp

     

    801-235-8077

    pianokopp@comcast.net

     






  • 31.  RE: "RURAL" TECHS

    Posted 08-29-2020 19:06
    I've been tuning in rural settings since 1977.  Southeast Ohio until 2011.  Always used a small car or van for my appointments, but my next vehicle for down here in West Virginia is going to be an SUV!   I don't go out if snow is going to be an issue, but my poor little Kia Forte has had some struggles with some of these "roads" (to use the term loosely) down here in the mountain state!   I barely made it up the side of one mountain overlooking the New, Gauley, and Kanawha rivers a few weeks ago.  Then, once I made it to the top, I had to use caution getting out of the car so as to avoid falling off the mountain!   The fellow who delivered our motorcycle to us from Ohio came up our street and exclaimed "You call THAT a STREET!?!"   (it's slightly over one lane.)

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    Timothy Edwards
    Beckley WV
    740-517-7636
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  • 32.  RE: "RURAL" TECHS

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 08-30-2020 13:32
    Tim: I loved reading that.
    For those who don't understand exactly what he means, look at 0:20-1:40:
    https://youtu.be/qx-6y8-EoK8
    😂

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    Maggie Jusiel, RPT
    Athens, WV
    (304)952-8615
    mags@timandmaggie.net
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  • 33.  RE: "RURAL" TECHS

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 08-30-2020 14:17
    Oops. I posted the unlisted link to that video.  No biggie, but here's the public one :
    https://youtu.be/eh2deMzp7to

    Keith: airplane...
    BAHAHAHAHAH!
    🤣

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    Maggie Jusiel, RPT
    Athens, WV
    (304)952-8615
    mags@timandmaggie.net
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  • 34.  RE: "RURAL" TECHS

    Posted 08-30-2020 20:46
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    There are still dirt roads in a few places here, single lane. One such, you drive along for a mile or two and come out at a house here:

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    Regards,

    Jon Page
    mailto:jonpage@comcast.net
    http://www.pianocapecod.com
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  • 35.  RE: "RURAL" TECHS

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 08-30-2020 21:08
    Just beautiful Mrs. Jusiel. But seriously; Which one of you was driving with their knees? Both of those instruments take two hands to play. Don't seem hardly safe.

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    Karl Roeder
    Pompano Beach FL
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  • 36.  RE: "RURAL" TECHS

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 08-31-2020 14:01
    HAHA! Karl - My phone was duct taped to my windshield. I promise I had both hands on the wheel. ;-)

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    Maggie Jusiel, RPT
    Athens, WV
    (304)952-8615
    mags@timandmaggie.net
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  • 37.  RE: "RURAL" TECHS

    Posted 08-30-2020 19:37

    Well, Maggie -- that's a MUCH better road than some I've been "treated" to lately.   One, not far outside Beckley:  directions were to go to the post office and turn right.   Go until you see a sign that says "Morgan", then turn left and go up the hill.  Well, I missed the sign!   The road was "barely" ONE lane, about a mile of which was a straight drop on the right (with NO guardrail), and a sheer rock face on the left.   No guardrails.   No berm.   No shoulder.   If one were to meet an oncoming vehicle, then SOMEONE was going to have to back up for up to a half mile to let the other past.   Anyway, I went to the end of the road where a utility pole was falling across the road.  Fortunately, my Kia was short enough to fit beneath the fallen utility pole to access an area where I could turn around.  After calling the customer and confessing I was "lost" I was told that I couldn't turn up her driveway from this direction.   I'd have to go all the way back to the post office, turn around, and retrace the route due to the steepness of the driveway and the sharp angle from which it approaches the road.  I made it up the hill and discovered these folks were refurbishing pontoon boats for extra income!   I simply can't imagine hauling pontoon boats on trailers up the road I'd just survived! 
    My "poor little" Kia just can't handle some of the unpaved and rutted roads I've encountered.   Ruts so deep I often drag the bottom of the car.   Seems every other week provides a new heart-stopping adventure down here in the mountains!  I must say:  tuning pianos here in West Virginia provides a good bit more excitement than the foothills of S.E. Ohio did! 



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    Timothy Edwards
    Beckley WV
    740-517-7636
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  • 38.  RE: "RURAL" TECHS

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 08-31-2020 14:04
    Tim - HAHA! I haven't been on one of those roads in a while. In some areas, I have to park somewhere like a gas station or post office and my customer has to take me the rest of the way because my car won't make it. LOL! ;-) 

    Jim & Jon - Those pictures are great! England looks so much like VA (VA, not WV). It's beautiful! :-)

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    Maggie Jusiel, RPT
    Athens, WV
    (304)952-8615
    mags@timandmaggie.net
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  • 39.  RE: "RURAL" TECHS

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 09-01-2020 17:18
    Tire questions for other rural techs: Do you carry a tire plug kit and mini-compressor in your car? How often do you have to use it? How often do you have to buy a completely new tire? I'm thinking I plug holes 2-4 times a year, and have to buy a new tire about once a year because the hole isn't pluggable. I get holes mostly from nails & sharp rocks, but occasionally it will be something else that either slices the tire (glass) or blows out the side (having to drive to a safe spot after a flat or hitting an unexpected deep pothole). Once I was actually driven off the road & hit a "car bridge" with my right front tire & bent the rim. It was better than a head on collision.

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    Maggie Jusiel, RPT
    Athens, WV
    (304)952-8615
    mags@timandmaggie.net
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  • 40.  RE: "RURAL" TECHS

    Member
    Posted 09-01-2020 19:27
    I have a minicompressor along with some of that green slime however it seems most leaks come from side cuts that cant be repaired. I always replace tires in pairs and sometimes will just get all new tires . Its a good idea to check the spare because you will most likely find out it has leaked. One problem we have here is the effect of salty road water and the sun. many tires develop cracks from sun exposure and are candidates for a blowout. Not a bad idea to practice a tire change now and then keeping in mind it is often not safe because of traffic, road conditions. The best thing you can do is be aware of the mile markers and exits as well as streets and cross streets. Most of the time when you call for road help from AAA or Allstate they will ask you where you are. A good idea is to have some road flashers to set up in the road behind the vehicle to warn others. Your 4 way flashers are not good enough. A real flare kit is worth it as well. I had a blowout in my Mercury Mountaineer and the first auto service guy could not get the spare off even with a breaker bar. had to get towed on a flatbed. Make sure you can get the lugbolts off ! A 4 way tire iron can help get lug nuts off and an aluminum racing car jack from Harbor Freight Tools is worth the money. Never get under a vehicle without jack stands and dont even try changing tires on busy highways or sloped ground. There are plenty of impaired drivers day and night plus the air currents from big trucks is dangerous. A good cell phone, phone charger and auto club membership is highly recommended. Most tires do not live up to their mileage ratings and you are pushing them if you try to get out all they are rated for. Good idea to get a thread depth tester, test the air, look for cracks in the sidewall and wear on edges of the tires. Last oil change at Jiffy Lube i had a free tire rotation. I also paid to get the lenses on my headlights dehazed and polished. Free lifetime touchups - the sun kills the plastic lenses here

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    James Kelly
    Owner- Fur Elise Piano Service
    Pawleys Island SC
    843-325-4357
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  • 41.  RE: "RURAL" TECHS

    Posted 09-01-2020 21:36
    I've only encountered this once down here in WV.  I believe I was on my way back from Oceana, after coming across Bolt Mountain.  Near Lake Stephens the back end of my Kia started jumping up and down violently.   Looking for a place to turn off the road, I found a gravel parking lot by the Lake Stephens entrance, but before I could turn into it I heard a large piece of metal go bouncing down the road and a loud "whoosh" as all the air left my rear tire.  There was no repairing THIS!  The tire was BUSTED!   No spare.  Called for a tow.  Took it to the Kia dealership.   It must've been a railroad spike because it not only busted the tire, but also went clear through the tire to the hub of the wheel and punctured it as well!   Required a new wheel. 

    I now have the car equipped with a spare, but so far haven't required it.  I pray I never do, since my trunk is always so full of tools it would probably take me a week to uncover the spare!

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    Timothy Edwards
    Beckley WV
    740-517-7636
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  • 42.  RE: "RURAL" TECHS

    Member
    Posted 09-03-2020 10:55
    Today I have a choice. I can do 25 miles of windy sometimes bumpy one lane road or the 2 lane hwy for 50 miles. It takes about the same time. My average travel is 25 miles one way. What gets me is when they say it 5 miles down the road and it's a dirt road that you can only go 5 miles an hour. My 4 runner eats gas but the 10 ply traction tires gets me around places without spinning my wheels. It also carries a lot of stuff.
    I carry lots of stuff but still you have to be creative. I think my center pinning kit is the one that allows me to be creative in repairs when lacking parts. 
    Jon Page's CBL sure helps because a lot of these piano wires haven't been moved in years. Plan on having wires pop. Reusing the same wire might be the best solution.

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    Keith Roberts
    owner
    Hathaway Pines CA
    209-770-4312
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