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Newby question re Randy Potter cours

  • 1.  Newby question re Randy Potter cours

    Posted 12-22-2014 12:52
    Hi!
    I'm a retired engineer with lots of mechanical, woodworking, and musical experience looking into training
    as a piano tech. My tech--the guy who tunes my piano--recommended the Randy Potter course as a starting
    point.

    It looks like if you buy the course it includes a set of tools, supplies, etc. My question is: are these good
    quality tools, or would I be better off buying my own. (I love tools, so I don't mind spending $$$ for the good
    stuff).

    Thanks in advance!

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    Eric Schell
    Austin TX
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  • 2.  RE: Newby question re Randy Potter cours

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 12-22-2014 13:11
    Eric

    The tools that come with Randy's course are good enough to get you started. As you gain experience and knowledge, you will undoubtedly want to experiment with other tools. 

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    Willem "Wim" Blees, RPT
    Mililani, HI 96789
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  • 3.  RE: Newby question re Randy Potter cours

    Posted 12-22-2014 15:52
    Eric-

    For $1000 you could join PTG, buy a selectioqn of fine quality PTG training texts, and also a starting selection of tools, and you would have regular contact with PTG members.
    Given your background, this may be your best start.

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    Ed Sutton
    ed440@me.com
    704-536-7926
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  • 4.  RE: Newby question re Randy Potter cours

    Posted 12-22-2014 16:54
    selectioqn goes hand in hand with the Subject word cours

    Just feeling grumpy ... no, not really ... just having fun with some of the most excellent folks!

    Merry Christmas all!

    Keith McGavern, RPT
    Shawnee, Oklahoma, USA



  • 5.  RE: Newby question re Randy Potter cours

    Posted 12-22-2014 20:23
    The word "cours" happened because the message title was truncated by the website software.
    I spent many years as a software engineer. I understand websites have their limits.
    No, I'm not illiterate.
    I hope this does not sound angry. Peace to all.

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    Eric Schell
    Austin TX
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  • 6.  RE: Newby question re Randy Potter cours

    Posted 12-23-2014 08:34
    Keith,
    Sorry I was the grumpy one yesterday. I find piano techs to be friendly and patient people. One
    reason I'm attracted to the profession.
    Merry Christmas!
    Eric

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    Eric Schell
    Austin TX
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  • 7.  RE: Newby question re Randy Potter cours

    Posted 12-22-2014 20:35
    Thanks, Ed,
    Another option I did not know about.
    Eric


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    Eric Schell
    Austin TX
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  • 8.  RE: Newby question re Randy Potter cours

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 12-22-2014 21:59
    Eric,

    I started this business very much the same as you are starting. I purchased the Potter Course and spent the next two years completing it. 
    Early in the course Randy Potter suggests joining the Piano Technician's Guild. I attended two different chapters for a while and finally joined one. Randy Potter also suggests finding a mentor in the guild, which I did. By the time I had completed my course, however, I had learned much, much more from my association with my chapter, from my mentor and from attending regular PTG training opportunities than I had learned from my course.

    If I had to do it all over again, and if I had had those two suggestions from the Potter course (1- join PTG and 2- find a mentor), I would have joined the guild first, plugged in to whatever training opportunities I could find, found a mentor, and THEN (if I still needed more direction) I would have invested in a correspondence course.

    PTG dues are around $300 a year...a minimal investment to get started. If you're not happy, you can always choose to not continue the next year. Purchasing an entire correspondence course may cost up to 6X that amount.

    Something to consider...

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    John Parham, RPT
    Hickory, NC
    828-244-2487
    johnparham@piano88.com
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  • 9.  RE: Newby question re Randy Potter cours

    Posted 12-23-2014 12:43
    John,
    Thanks for the good advice. Apparently I have a mentor in the technician that tunes
    my piano, so I think I'm in good shape there. He suggested buying a craigslist piano
    and practice tuning on it, rather than messing with my Kawai grand. So I'm looking at
    a spinet which with moving will set me back maybe $200. I already have a student-quality
    tuning hammer, and I just ordered some mute wedges and felt from amazon.

    So I'll start learning to tune by ear using the Potter method as it's given in the Reblitz
    book. I created mp3 click tracks for 7, 8, and 9 bps using Audacity, a free audio editor so I
    can learn the critical beat frequencies. Of course, I'll get some kind of digital tuning device
    at some point, possibly Tunelab for my android tablet.

    I've had the book and hammer for years, so maybe I've always meant to learn how to
    do this.

    And, yes, I'll probably go ahead and join the PTG.

    Thanks again.

    Eric


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    Eric Schell
    Austin TX
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  • 10.  RE: Newby question re Randy Potter cours

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 12-23-2014 14:27
    Eric --

    Do NOT, I repeat, DO NOT get yourself a spinet as a practice piano. Yes, you should have a beater other than your Kawai, but a spinet will cause you so much frustration in learning tuning and repair skills that you just might give up.

    I took the Potter course. And joined PTG right away as Randy recommended. What I found valuable about the Potter course is that unlike learning on your own, having a curriculum that you need to follow, along with someone who is watching and evaluating your progress is a necessary value. Like learning to play the piano, you do better with a teacher than all alone by yourself.

    The Potter course, for me, provided information and techniques of a value that allowed me to ask intelligent questions from the technicians I was meeting in PTG. From it I learned a lot, but of almost more value was the background and knowledge to enter a conversation without having to ask noobie questions. 

    I will always be grateful to my fellow techs that took me under their wing and showed me how they do stuff. I am also thankful for everything I was picking up at PTG meetings and conferences. But, the other value of the Potter course is that when you get through it you will be almost totally prepared to take the RPT written exam. And THAT's when the fun begins. What I discovered was that, for me, passing the RPT exams was a most definite goal. But gaining the knowledge and the skills required was a matter of study. I had to study and practice to pass those tests. The reward was unexpected and absolutely worth the effort. After I had passed my final exam I was suddenly aware that I no longer had to study. No. Now I was open to actually learning. PTG and associate chapter members became even more valuable in that I could now absorb that new information and those new skills much as anyone learns new skills on the job. I no longer had to study, I now got to learn. 

    The Randy Potter course is a great introduction. Use it as a third, and valuable guided path into this career. 

    As far as the tools that Randy provides, more than a couple of them I still have and still use. You will eventually want a better hammer, and some dedicated rather than utility handle plug in regulation tools, but give what comes with the course a chance before you start investing in what can get costly fast, on new and better tools. You'll learn quickly which ones are worth keeping and which ones you should upgrade. 

    And once again, do not get a spinet. Spend a little more and get an old, but functional, upright. You will be much better served by it. 

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    Geoff Sykes, RPT
    Los Angeles CA
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  • 11.  RE: Newby question re Randy Potter cours

    Posted 12-23-2014 15:12
    Eric,

    There is some wisdom to what Geoff has said if you want to tear into a piano that needs repairs, but your grand would be ideal for learning to tune if you can bear to live with the process, that meaning, I am allowing you are a player and would probably regret the sound it produces in your learning curve.

    You mentioned the possibility of getting Tune-Lab on an Android. You can use that to straighten things out if you get to far off the beaten track with the aural process. It can even assist you nicely in learning. I have used its trial version and it a very satisfactory software.

    As for tearing into a piano to get to know the inside stuff, a console or studio size piano having a direct blow action will help minimize frustration. There are too many variations of drop lifter actions in the field to get an accurate picture of what's needed from piano to piano.

    Consoles, studios and large upright pianos have, generally speaking, a consistency of recognizable part repairs and/or adjustments from piano to piano, and even greater, they definitely allow one greater freedom in accessing those areas without question.

    It's the season,

    Keith McGavern, RPT
    Shawnee, Oklahoma, USA



  • 12.  RE: Newby question re Randy Potter cours

    Posted 12-23-2014 18:38
    Geoff is right.
    For tuning the spinet will be very confusing because it will never sound clean.
    The fellow I know who learned fastest learned to tune on a 7' Schimmel grand!
    For repairs and regulation, you will spend most of your time pulling and replacing the action, and you won't be able to see how things function.

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    Ed Sutton
    ed440@me.com
    704-536-7926
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  • 13.  RE: Newby question re Randy Potter cours

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 12-23-2014 23:43
    Eric,

    Whichever piano you buy, please do not buy a short piano...such as a spinet piano. 

    Learning the basics of tuning requires understanding how to identify the higher pitches (partials) that each string generates. The Potter course, and your chapter members, will talk about these partials. In a spinet piano, the partials are so far away from their multiples that you will have to either tune nice-sounding octaves OR nice-sounding 4ths and 5ths...you will NOT be able to tune both. 

    Your correspondence course will not address this situation. It will assume that you have a piano where both scenarios will be acceptable. 

    Buy a cheap piano that is TALLER than a spinet. Also, if the music desk is taller than the case of the piano, do not buy it (because it's probably a spinet).

    If you don't follow this advice, you will struggle to learn even the basics of tuning. Don't be fooled by words in ads selling pianos: the SHORTER the piano, the FASTER you should run away.

    I'm not joking, and neither is the next person with the same recommendation for anyone learning to tune pianos.

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    John Parham, RPT
    Hickory, NC
    828-244-2487
    johnparham@piano88.com
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  • 14.  RE: Newby question re Randy Potter cours

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 12-23-2014 01:59
    Hi, Eric:
    Welcome to the list.
    Tools are a kind of catch-22. You can buy a tool and not use it, or you can "not" buy the tool and need it tomorrow.
    I used to spend lots of time drooling over the tools in the catalogs, wondering if I would need such and such tool. I was lucky to be able to work full time in a store, so I could buy a tool and test it out. I have a large box of tools I purchased that I've never used or found didn't work well for me. If you get a chance to look into an old tuner's tool box, you'll always find odd tools which he probably made himself, or which are no longer made (because they probably didn't work well even when they were new).
    The most important tool will be your tuning hammer (wrench, actually). The important consideration is the stiffness, which you will find in most of the professional offerings in the catalogs. Some exotic hammers are available with carbon-fiber shafts, titanium tips and such. They are meant to be extremely light and stiff, which helps prevent too much wear-and-tear on your joints. The extension hammers offered in the Schaff, Pianotek, Pacific Piano and other supply houses are not expensive, but are heavier. I used one for 20+ years, until I purchased a nice hammer from Charles Faulk which is very light and stiff. Exotic wood handle, and about $165.
    Many of the tools you'll buy will require some modification to work optimally, even if you get them from the supply houses. Some will work better than others for the same job, and some will work better for you than someone else, or not work for you but work great in someone else's hands.
    Randy Potter's course is excellent, and he certainly knows which tools you'll need to get started. Piano tuners tend to be tool junkies, so you're in good company! It would be very good for you to join the Guild if you haven't already. There is good comraderie in chapter meetings and in conventions where you can ask questions about the best way to do something, get advice on just about anything piano related. Randy is very keen on recommending his students join the Guild as soon as possible.
    Yes, buying quality is always good. Some tools are very expensive, like special pliers you can purchase from Renner for different purposes. Whether you will need them right away is a question. Some basic regulating tools are included in the course, and for now they are probably good enough to learn with. If you decline his offerings, that's fine, you can order a set of basic regulating tools, a good extension hammer, some mutes and felt temperament strip, and get started. It's not likely in the beginning that you would need the exotic expensive stuff and be rebuilding and regulating pianos, so just start picking up tools as you need them. You could also scour the internet, Craigslist, Ebay, etc. for tools left behind by a tuner who passed away. Sometimes chapter meetings have an auction for tools that techs want to get rid of, etc.
    I hope this helps. Good luck in your new endeavor.
    Paul McCloud




  • 15.  RE: Newby question re Randy Potter cours

    Posted 12-23-2014 09:00
    Paul,
    Thanks for your answer and encouragement.
    Tool junky is right. Maybe training to be a
    piano tech is just an excuse for me to acquire
    more exotic tools. Let the shopping begin!
    Eric

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    Eric Schell
    Austin TX
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  • 16.  RE: Newby question re Randy Potter cours

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 12-23-2014 09:32
    Hi Eric.

    I got my start before the RP Course existed.  I put off joining the guild for years.  I took a "class" that was offered by a University of Wisconsin professor that, I think more than anything, he offered to keep himself occupied for the summer months in a little burg of River Falls, WI.  For $100 I got a tool roll of basic regulating tools and a student tuning lever along with the three week course (5 days a week, 3 hours a day, 1 credit).

    We had numerous pianos to work with and that's the key.  Find some pianos to work with.  After completing the course we were told to go tune a bunch of pianos for free.  That one was tough.  At the time I lived in a very small community.  Looking back I wished I had a warehouse full of opportunity to work with to hone my newly learned skills and information.

    It took decades to reach the level of skill that I have now.  I've enjoyed the work every day.  I finally joined the guild about 25 years ago.  There's a wealth of information contained within this bunch and for the most part, it's available for the asking. 

    Being a successful tech in this business requires numerous levels of skill and that's the part that attracts me the most. 
    The RP Course is just barely the basics.  From there you will have to get your own action going.  Transportation, shop space, dealer association, advertising, supplies, tools and various work sources are on the horizon.  Good luck to you.


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    Larry Fisher
    Owner, Chief Grunt, Head Hosehead
    Vancouver WA
    360-256-2999
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  • 17.  RE: Newby question re Randy Potter cours

    Posted 12-23-2014 09:51
    I'll try to limit myself to one...maybe two...opinions.

    1.) Changing from extension to fixed handle, fixed head tuning levers was the most dramatic change of my career. The Levitan Standard lever from Pianotek is the least expensive and will always be useful if you buy a more expensive lever later. [Full disclosure: Dan Levitan is a friend.]

    2.) Recently published _Pianos Inside Out_ by Mario Igrec is the most comprehensive and up-to-date text on piano technology.

    3.) Click on the PTJVideos link on the bottom right of this page to see some examples of what PTG can share with you.

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    Ed Sutton
    ed440@me.com
    704-536-7926
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  • 18.  RE:Newby question re Randy Potter cours

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 12-23-2014 09:52
    If you're really serious and want the best education in the shortest amount of time. I recommend the North Bennet Street School.

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    Morgan T. Cowell, RPT
    M.T. Cowell Piano Services
    Southeast Nebraska
    402-239-7876
    Morgan.cowell@yahoo.com
    www.mtcowell.com
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  • 19.  RE: Newby question re Randy Potter cours

    Posted 12-23-2014 09:59
    Hi, Eric --

    First question -- are you already a PTG member? Because I see you are posting on the PTG board (just curious). If so, good start!

    I came to piano work with a background as a violin, cello, and piano player, a Ph.D. in chemical kinetics, an RN license, and good delicate handskills from needlework. I was much smarter than I was competent, I lived in my head. Here are some of the things which helped me in early days:

    --- Finding people who were excellent at their work, smart, knowledgeable, and eager to share (this is a short description of most PTG members!).
    --- Buying the best tools I could afford: I started with a "beginner's" tuning hammer and regret not just going for the basic Schaff Piano standard hammer, which was much more responsive and sensitive (no play in the hammer/pin junction, for example).
    --- Having a piano that I could try things out on: my friend let me try tuning her old, unused full-sized upright, taking its action in and out, experimenting with pedal adjustments, learning how to mute up and how to listen as best I could as a beginner.
    --- Seizing the opportunity for high-level training as soon as it arose -- after some months of hacking around, I was fortunate enough to be accepted by the North Bennet Street School  and actually learn what I was supposed to do and (eek!) the very small tolerances within which I was to work, much tighter than those for "tuning" a violin and not able to be covered by vibrato!

    You are in a great place to learn, with a strong PTG chapter. I know you will love the work, as I have.

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    Dorothy Bell
    Newton Centre MA
    617-244-9850
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  • 20.  RE: Newby question re Randy Potter cours

    Posted 12-23-2014 12:45
    Thanks, Dorothy.

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    Eric Schell
    Austin TX
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  • 21.  RE: Newby question re Randy Potter cours

    Posted 12-23-2014 12:52
    I haven't joined PTG yet, but that looks like a good idea.

    I just ordered some muting wedges and felt strip. My tuning hammer is
    really basic. I think I will invest in a good one like Schaff.

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    Eric Schell
    Austin TX
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  • 22.  RE: Newby question re Randy Potter cours

    Posted 12-23-2014 14:51
    Eric,

    No doubt what Dorothy said, "You are in a great place to learn, with a strong PTG chapter." (reference Austin, TX)

    Also, wanted to mention the Piano Technicians Guild's National Convention will take place this July at Denver, CO. It is considered the full Monty event for bathing in just about everything one could want to explore when it comes to pianos, though there is another prestigious event taking place in Ontario, CA this Feb-March called WestPac.

    Here is a list of Upcoming PTG Events.

    Keith McGavern, RPT
    Shawnee, Oklahoma, USA
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  • 23.  RE: Newby question re Randy Potter cours

    Posted 12-23-2014 19:50
    Is this a great place or what?  

    Glad tidings to all who are willing to receiving such things!

    Keith McGavern, RPT
    Shawnee, Oklahoma, USA
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  • 24.  RE: Newby question re Randy Potter cours

    Posted 12-24-2014 08:34
    I bought the Randy Potter Course second hand, so I didn't officially get tutoring or a certificate from RP.  I know right now on the eBay site someone is offering all 5 of the course dvd's new for around $50 for the WHOLE set!  Sometimes these dvd's go for around $80 a piece.  I found the dvd's to be very informative -maybe instead of investing in the entire RP course, you could get your feet wet with the dvd's.

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    Paul Dickinson
    Neillsville WI
    715-743-2495
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  • 25.  RE: Newby question re Randy Potter cours

    Posted 12-24-2014 09:29
    I have four extra RP DVDs, $40 + shipping if you want them.  

    Sincerely, Peter Banach





  • 26.  RE: Newby question re Randy Potter cours

    Posted 12-24-2014 11:38
    Thanks again to all for all the advice. I spoke with Steve Walthall, an RPT here in town who has worked on my piano several times. He also advised the fixed head hammer, so I'm looking at the Schaff-Hale S-4 which is less than $100. He also suggested getting a piano with a direct blow action. Much better for learning regulation and voicing I guess.

    I am taking the advice on avoiding a spinet. The Reblitz book mentioned that it's hard to hear the beats in the bass strings, but from all the comments it sounds like it's worse than that. If I were braver, I would learn on my Kawai. But Steve just tuned it, and I'd rather have it be a musical instrument than a science project.

    And I'll be looking into joining PTG.

    In any case, I'm pushing all this into the new year partly for bookkeeping reasons. New year, new job to learn. I'm looking forward to it.

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    Eric Schell
    rookie
    vlad.schell@gmail.com
    Austin TX
    512-363-6236
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  • 27.  RE: Newby question re Randy Potter cours

    Posted 12-24-2014 12:42
    Eric,

    Looks like you have a complete arsenal of information to date and have digested its relevance with regards to your potential implementation.

    A holiday additive por vous:
    A great YouTube tutorial by a fellow named Bill Bremmer, RPT, a recognized master aural tuner.

    Bill Bremmer Demonstrates Tuning Contiguous Thirds Part 1

    Cheers,

    Keith McGavern, RPT
    Shawnee, Oklahoma, USA



  • 28.  RE: Newby question re Randy Potter cours

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 12-24-2014 14:17
    Eric:

    One thing that hasn't been mentioned: It takes at least a year (often more time) to acquire the basics.  By basics I mean having the knowledge and skill to pass the PTG exams.  It's harder to acquire the basics on your own even with a good mentor. Attending a school is better.  After that first year, it takes at least a year to build up a business.  If you want to do concert service work, add another 5 years experience and finding a way to get that experience is as hard as learning the basics, maybe harder.  Rebuilding is another area of expertise and it, too, takes several years to be skillful enough to match or exceed factory quality standards. Also, we have to wear a lot of hats in this business (technician, manager, independent  businessman, psychologist, accountant, friend).  Some of those hats are uncomfortable, but the successful technician finds a way to change hats and please the customer.  As in any profession, good judgement is key.

    I say all this not to discourage you, but to help you realize what you're getting into. Learning this profession can be cheap and easy, but mastering it doesn't come cheaply or easily.  

    Richard West
    concert piano technician since 1971
    retired





  • 29.  RE: Newby question re Randy Potter cours

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 12-25-2014 01:21
    Learning this profession can be cheap and easy, but mastering it doesn't come cheaply or easily.

    And finding a store that carries all those hats in your size can be difficult. Sometimes I have to wear the same hat for several different purposes, and hope the customer doesn't catch on. 


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    Geoff Sykes, RPT
    Los Angeles CA
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  • 30.  RE: Newby question re Randy Potter cours

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 12-26-2014 13:04

        I'll give you my take on your question Eric but first just a brief note on my background. I've been an aerospace engineer for most of my career and when I hit 50, I began to ask myself if this is what I wanted to do for the rest of my life.  I've been playing piano and wondered if I might have an interest in doing piano work. I went ahead and paid for the full Randy Potter course and took a very leisurely pace at doing the lessons.  My intent was simply to find out if I had an interest in pursuing piano tuning & repair should I indeed leave the aerospace industry.

        As others have mentioned, early on in the course, Randy recommends joining the PTG and your local chapter, which I did.  I am very fortunate as there are a number of rebuilders who had no problem me joining them working on the job du jour.  For leaning tuning and repair on a real piano, I did not want to mess up my good Yamaha grand and got an old, large Ludwig upright off Craigslist.

        Now to answer your question, the tools are just fine for learning how to tune & regulate, including the upright action model that comes with the course.  There was so much to learn on how to properly use the tools that I never felt the need to get something bigger and better until many years later.  I'll be honest, I still use those tools today.

        A couple of years ago, I was offered an early retirement and found myself suddenly full-time piano technician which provided a lot of incentive to finish the Potter course.  It was not my desire to move to Boston for two years and I truly feel the Randy Potter course has given me an excellent base of knowledge and was the springboard in helping me pass the RPT exam (along with the PACE books).  Besides completing the course and making use of experienced techs in the area, I continue to further my education attending the PTG's 37 steps class in Kansas, Randy Potters' Bozeman Montana seminar, the Renner academy in Arizona, PTG conventions (both regional and national) and recently very fortunate to intern for a week at a German piano factory.

        From my viewpoint, the monies spent on the Randy Potter course was well worth it but YOU have to put in the work and it is not stand alone.  By that I mean I needed the help of my fellow technicians in the area and took advantage of learning opportunities where it could.

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    Jim Fariss, RPT
    Black Forest Piano
    Black Forest, Colorado
    (719) 425-8845
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  • 31.  RE: Newby question re Randy Potter cours

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 12-26-2014 20:19
    I'd say buy the tools.  They're not the tools you'll ULTIMATELY own, but they're serviceable and you'll appreciate having them as spares.  It could also be argued that you could use them in "research" to learn what it is you DO want in your ultimate tools.  AND, finally, I like having a few cheap tuning hammers to leave with customers when I replace or splice a string, and I'll show them how to pull their string up to pitch as it goes frequently and annoyingly flat.

    That's what I'd say!







  • 32.  RE: Newby question re Randy Potter cours

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 12-27-2014 18:37
    John -
    I was going to agree with most of your comment, with reservations regarding the last part: leaving customer with a tuning hammer, but first, I looked up where you practice - Montana - and so can imagine that your service area is fairly far-ranging, making a follow-up visit, simply for the purpose of pulling up a string a costly undertaking.  Still, and allowing for the tough self-reliance of the average Montanian, maybe there's a way - combining pre-stretching wire/strings, and installing them at the outset of a tuning session, along with a supply of mutes, that would accomplish your objective, without empowering the client to go to town with their newly acquired tool, and skills.  

    It's probably not a frequent situation, in any case.

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    David Skolnik
    Hastings-on-Hudson NY
    914-231-7565
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  • 33.  RE: Newby question re Randy Potter cours

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 12-27-2014 19:45
    Yes, David, exactly-- sometimes the strings are hundreds of miles away, and yes, it is infrequent.  And I DO generally put the string in as soon as I can.  (although I go ALL THE WAY through the first pass to see if I'll be doing more of them!)  Plus, yes, if it's a left string of one note and the right string of its neighbor, I'll just mute it off until the next tuning.

    And, AMEN!, Montanans are self-reliant.  Still, I think they have even MORE respect for what I do when they figure out it's not an EASY skill to set a pin and a string on a unison, though it seems a simple one!

    On Sat, Dec 27, 2014 at 4:36 PM, David Skolnik via Piano Technicians Guild






  • 34.  RE: Newby question re Randy Potter cours

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 12-27-2014 20:07
    Indeed.  I missed that last aspect of the strategy.  And I kept thinking they would discover just how easy it is.  Huh.  You're more right, I suspect.  Do you drive, or fly?  Either way, that's got to be one expensive string.  

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    David Skolnik
    Hastings-on-Hudson NY
    914-231-7565
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