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  • 1.  Steinway decals

    Posted 12-16-2020 10:57

    What are folks doing about Steinway decals these days?  



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    Jim Ialeggio
    grandpianosolutions.com
    Shirley, MA
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  • 2.  RE: Steinway decals

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 12-16-2020 11:59

    Getting them from undisclosed sources. 

    Pwg



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    Peter Grey
    Stratham NH
    603-686-2395
    pianodoctor57@gmail.com
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  • 3.  RE: Steinway decals

    Posted 12-16-2020 15:19

    oh boy...a black market....the piano technicians go underground...I always knew we had latent criminal tendencies.



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    Jim Ialeggio
    grandpianosolutions.com
    Shirley, MA
    978 425-9026
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  • 4.  RE: Steinway decals

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 12-16-2020 15:32

    Of course "undisclosed" does not in and of itself mean illegal. It means "I'm not telling" as in "so and so is at an undisclosed location". I know where it is but I'm in not telling. 😎

    Pwg



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    Stratham NH
    603-686-2395
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  • 5.  RE: Steinway decals

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 12-16-2020 19:45

    Hmmm. Perhaps you could become the underground black market resource for Jim. Better delete this thread before you-know-who sees it. 



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    Geoff Sykes, RPT
    Los Angeles CA
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  • 6.  RE: Steinway decals

    Posted 12-16-2020 20:14

    I'd consider it if I had the goods...but, I'm afraid, Bugsie I ain't got the goods. The copper's got's nothin' on me...



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    Jim Ialeggio
    grandpianosolutions.com
    Shirley, MA
    978 425-9026
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  • 7.  RE: Steinway decals

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 12-16-2020 20:42

    They can sue me all they want. It's all just big con game.  I won't be conned, and I'm not afraid. The burden of proof is on them.

    Furthermore who said I use a "decal" anyway? Have you looked into stenciling? Check it out. Indistinguishable if done carefully. And totally legit. 

    Pwg 



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    Peter Grey
    Stratham NH
    603-686-2395
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  • 8.  RE: Steinway decals

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 12-17-2020 04:50

    So now it comes out that Peter is rebuilding black market stencil pianos.  Oh, great!   I have noticed his beady eyes darting around nervously in a furtive glance, then downcast to the ground as he avoids eye contact.  It's a terrible secret to keep, and now the cat is out of the bag.

    You will be the ruin of us all, Peter.  Shame!!



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    William Truitt
    Bridgewater NH
    603-744-2277
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  • 9.  RE: Steinway decals

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 12-17-2020 07:48

    😲🤣😉😆😁😊😄😠😞🤡☺!

    Pwg



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    Peter Grey
    Stratham NH
    603-686-2395
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  • 10.  RE: Steinway decals

    Posted 12-17-2020 08:31

    And...he keeps  a shotgun by the door



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    Jim Ialeggio
    grandpianosolutions.com
    Shirley, MA
    978 425-9026
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  • 11.  RE: Steinway decals

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 09-07-2023 23:13
    Am I hearing you say that I could somehow create a stencil of this decal?  How to do that I am wondering!
    I also just found this link on ebay



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    Duncan Peterson, RPT
    Provo, UT
    www.TheGildedPiano.com
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  • 12.  RE: Steinway decals

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 09-07-2023 23:27
    Take a very clear picture of the decal to a print shop and they should be able to make a stencil from it. 



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  • 13.  RE: Steinway decals

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 09-08-2023 04:33
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    I once replaced a soundboard on an 1888 Chickering Concert Grand.  There was a Chickering logo and serial number on the board.  I photographed it and had a Screen Printing Stencil made.   Printing it on the new board was a one off use and well worth the minimal investment.  I think the stencils can be cleaned and reused.  Could possibly be applied to Fallboards with bronze powdered ink.  Photo taken 33 years from the time it was installed attached.



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    David Stanwood RPT
    Stanwood Piano Innovations Inc.
    West Tisbury MA
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  • 14.  RE: Steinway decals

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 09-08-2023 07:39

    Thanks to both of you, Wim and David, for your insights!



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    Duncan Peterson, RPT
    Provo, UT
    www.TheGildedPiano.com
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  • 15.  RE: Steinway decals

    Posted 09-08-2023 13:05

    Nice idea. When you have the stencil which produces better results (less bleed) spraying or hand drawing with a pen?



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  • 16.  RE: Steinway decals

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 09-08-2023 16:23

    I've never actually done it but I've seen videos featuring a Cricut stencil cutting machine. The stencil material has a mild adhesive on it to stick to the surface, minimizing bleeding. This process is functionally identical to hand painting which is functionally identical to restoration of an original (and is not a decal). 

    Peter Grey Piano Doctor 



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    Peter Grey
    Stratham NH
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  • 17.  RE: Steinway decals

    Posted 09-09-2023 07:13

    Brass fallboard transfers were all over eBay at very low prices - and in different thicknesses recently.  I see those are not as easy to find right now, but keep your eye out there for new opportunities. Here's a couple I saw this morning -- one for a large "side-piano" transfer:

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/354993546684?hash=item52a743a5bc:g:tU0AAOSwJBZk5H5x&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAA8C3x144nMIFofS5f4tUOlHBHNzmk2tKdV%2B8hhZz%2BEyU%2F9fze5Y3crMI0ckwZVKPrxLgHCWH1eh3dhPZGOQaG5sqGcT5N67B38s4L0miD1jT411%2B5vFgoTI7%2F4Mi9O9rUguR61yw9GUmDDY5gT%2Bmw6qrTxVIOD1VgVi9ig%2FcFUdOX9gdT7FFsdFMw0HK34veD3%2FTbE99UDYsQVosXEPpKQKwPFM5EQuwkMsB%2FC6ibTudTm85uKkyQLaCcZ7a3LqKpJeuR%2B69uCO3EJujRgoifD6Z5n10QCLZT8wV0ypDIQN3ePtRA1bdEkUIILUzjCaUrLg%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR4zXpJnPYg

    and two from a Japanese vendor, possibly New Old Stock?:

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/235181768426?hash=item36c1ecfeea:g:HcQAAOSwvbdk9zI6&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAA8MEKhHr1kSaZRuYjsNzDsPUp1q5Uprj9RG%2BHKNO%2B7VBAWm025G%2FEUL7zCBxcBTYuejW3wIuxoqEGu3wBgfrDbyA5AZ7B5GRNoy5vovRDT%2BYtO%2BJlVQ3zOsho8UAnsUgmMYCR1jGYvbAEkW8fKGpy7v9FrQihQQGBvzeTxQO%2F1b24Z4RmxrDIMU5Az6zXpIQ8dtWXvqpt7LLmDyeN3ysffFcr6Q2%2F7EJ0kISUd2o0eLnGaD77OzotOkx6jyx6VudMlaW7OxXtjLICmg23bPx39aYsvlyUvkck8uQje31VlS1UOAM63x7qilB7KusAkg5olg%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR47XpJnPYg

    I'm sure everything is quite legal...just like those $10 Gucci bags and $50 Rolex watches.



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    Brian Mott RPT
    Madison WI
    (608) 246-0506
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  • 18.  RE: Steinway decals

    Posted 09-09-2023 17:23
    Decal unlimited sells Alphabet, included &. It is everything to make decal except Lyra symbol

    Alexander Brusilovsky


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